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Girth theory: glans and corpus cavernosum.

Originally Posted by xenolith
It’s been 5 years since I wrote the above post; evidence from my PE practice since then is consistent with what I postulated in the above post, however, it may very well be because of the methods that I’ve been using since then: I’ve gained 0.00” in length and 0.375” in girth since then. But, I’ve been only sporadically been practicing hanging…although at very high weights, 50-80 lbs., but it’s been to distract my tunica (longitudinally) from the radial work that has lately been my focus since that last post. My cock is now thicker than my wrist and I’m sure that I can make it much thicker than that. Have been using the gizmo below…been calling it the Nice Vice…can certainly recommend it. Still employing IPR principles…the I and the P don’t add up to anything without the R…(in my experience).

So you’re using that to hang with or clamp with or both ?

Originally Posted by capernicus1

So you’re using that to hang with or clamp with or both ?

Clamping; although I have hung with it out of curiosity and it worked quite well. I’ve got all 3 BIB hangers…each of which are, I think, a better hanger than the Nice Vice.


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Originally Posted by xenolith
Clamping; although I have hung with it out of curiosity and it worked quite well. I’ve got all 3 BIB hangers…each of which are, I think, a better hanger than the Nice Vice.

Thanks.
Good to see you around again xeno, I’ve always found your posts useful.

Originally Posted by pudendum
Ttt - The spongiosum has a very significant venous leak throughout most levels of erection until peak (there’s that peak erection again). This is due to the shunting of blood from the arteries of the spongiosum to the veins (arterio-venous shunt). The textbooks say that at peak, the shunting in the glans is stopped by vein compression, mushrooming the head (for better penetration and to guaranty better positioning to dump its payload). In my mind, this means that spongiosum and glans work needs to be done at near full erection or compression it to raise pressure or pumping to expand volume. This weaker investing layer around the spongiosum has a higher elastic tissue component. It’s easily noted that the spongiosum can expand a great deal with cock rings, clamping and pumping. But my experience that this is not maintained without these interventions. It will be hard to counter the physiology of blood flow in the spongiosusm.

I haven’t ignored your suggested discussion point. I’ve pulled 10 papers on spongiosum anatomy and physiology to give a background for us to step off from for enhancement suggestions. I haven’t gotten through them all and there are more to get. The interest in erection has focused on the cavernosa (for obvious reasons). I will post some of this soon while others give PE suggestions.

I agree this is a great topic to explore next.

This is possibly why I get and inch girth expansion when I reverse jelq with 100% erection.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Xenolith

The vice your using , how wide is it and what is your routine with it and do you clamp at the base when you use the vice

Thanks

Originally Posted by xenolith
Clamping; although I have hung with it out of curiosity and it worked quite well. I’ve got all 3 BIB hangers…each of which are, I think, a better hanger than the Nice Vice.


Thank you for the kind words.

Originally Posted by curgt
Xenolith

The vice your using , how wide is it and what is your routine with it and do you clamp at the base when you use the vice

Thanks


3.5” wide x 6” long…baseboard molding from Lowe’s. Yes, I double clamp at the base, 1st one with hinge oriented at ventral (6 o’clock) position, 2nd one with hinge at either 3 o’clock or 9 o’clock position; the 2nd clamp orientation helps retain blood in the CCs during clamping better than the conventional 6 o’clock position as the arms of the cable clamp are oriented coincidentally with the dorsally and ventrally (12 o’clock and 6 o’clock) oriented Nice Vice arms.


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Nice so are you doing like 3 sets of 10 min as your routine with this set up so many days a week?

thanks

Originally Posted by xenolith
Thank you for the kind words.

3.5” wide x 6” long…baseboard molding from Lowe’s. Yes, I double clamp at the base, 1st one with hinge oriented at ventral (6 o’clock) position, 2nd one with hinge at either 3 o’clock or 9 o’clock position; the 2nd clamp orientation helps retain blood in the CCs during clamping better than the conventional 6 o’clock position as the arms of the cable clamp are oriented coincidentally with the dorsally and ventrally (12 o’clock and 6 o’clock) oriented Nice Vice arms.

So in what way are you finding this way of clamping Superior to you previous multiple cable clamp method ?
2 off these clamps at 3.5” must cover most of the shaft so you wont get the wave pattern of elliptical strain that you were suggesting worked so well before.

Presumably with the nice vice all the strain will be focused on the area of tissue in the gap between the two halves ?

After reading some of your old posts I did consider building something similar but long enough to cover the whole shaft and with a wave pattern machined into the surface to provide high stress points, kind off like the ribs in the bib hanger.

Based on your experience with the nice vice do you think it’s workable ?

Originally Posted by capernicus1
So in what way are you finding this way of clamping Superior to you previous multiple cable clamp method ?
2 off these clamps at 3.5” must cover most of the shaft so you wont get the wave pattern of elliptical strain that you were suggesting worked so well before.

Presumably with the nice vice all the strain will be focused on the area of tissue in the gap between the two halves ?

After reading some of your old posts I did consider building something similar but long enough to cover the whole shaft and with a wave pattern machined into the surface to provide high stress points, kind off like the ribs in the bib hanger.

Based on your experience with the nice vice do you think it’s workable ?


I still use the cock coffin (8 cable clamps gorilla glued together…clamping odd, then even numbered clamps in sets), but yes, I do think the nice vice is even more effective at producing girth gains because one can initially tighten the inboard wingnuts, close to the base (in front of the 2 cable clamps), thereby nearly “sealing” the blood in the CCs and CS, then one can sequentially tighten the outboard wingnuts, exerting controlled, but high pressure in the CCs and CS. Just another tool in the toolkit…

Some recent results from using the Nice Vice:

xenolith - Tiger

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Great info , guys !


Start Sept. 09 BPEL 5.5"

Now Jan. 14 BPEL 6.6" Goal 7.5 "x 6"

Improving my Best Friend in 3 Dimensions.

Cock-coffin!

Holy shit.

That’s one of those things I just have to try.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Been hanging 6 days on and 1 off for about 6 months now. Every other day I try to employ the priapism effect to increase length, girth and glans size…all while increasing eq.

How I’m doing this:
I get an erection and then place a thick elastic cock ring around the base. Then add some lube and begin edging for 5 - 10 minutes (warm up). During this time I would kegel to pump more blood into the shaft with every other slow stroke.

Then I move on to erect bends, holding between 30 - 60 seconds. Then jelq in between sets…kegeling between each jelq. Doing this for 5 - 10 minutes.

Finally, I move on to ballooning for the last 5 - 10 minutes. Performing hard kegels with every other stroke and holding the kegels for 5 seconds.

Sometimes you will need to readjust the cock ring due to discomfort. After you can resume…and avoid losing majority of the built up blood. Your entire penis will be very plump after, which includes the head. The idea is to do this to the point just before complete numbness kicks in. The idea is to engorged the penis for an extended amount of time in order to expand all the chambers and increase the elasticity of the tunica (for hanging or other type stretches).

It should be noted that this exercise should ONLY be performed by those who have been PEing for at least 10 months up to a year. And to edge on last time after you take the cock ring off (to help circulate new blood into the trapped blood).


Starting size: 6.25" BPEL (5.5" NBPEL); 6.5" BPFSL; 5.0" MEG (3/2014)

Goal: 6.5" NBPEL (7.25" BPEL); 5.5" MEG

Current size: 6.50" BPEL (5.75" NBPEL); 7.5" BPFSL; 5.25" MEG (11/25/2015)

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
DomnariRailings, so your aim is length and you prime your dick for the length exercises through increasing the elasticity prior?

(and the same working vice versa for girth aim)

That’s the idea I’m working with. It appears to be working as I have been seeing actual results since I started this month’s ago…but had to stop the jelqing, erect bends and cock ring/clamped ballooning due to slight injury (and a change in lube). My flaccid stretched length has nearly increased by an inch since using this approach.

But in its most basic concept: wear down the cavernous bodies, tunica and ligaments with prolonged expansion exercises in order to prime for the length routine. Haven’t put much thought into the opposite however. Not there yet, so I’m not too concerned about that (yet).


Starting size: 6.25" BPEL (5.5" NBPEL); 6.5" BPFSL; 5.0" MEG (3/2014)

Goal: 6.5" NBPEL (7.25" BPEL); 5.5" MEG

Current size: 6.50" BPEL (5.75" NBPEL); 7.5" BPFSL; 5.25" MEG (11/25/2015)

Originally Posted by DomnariRailings

The idea is to do this to the point just before complete numbness kicks in.

There is no benefit to getting to that point, and considerable risk.


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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