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Pud, what do you mean by splay?


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Originally Posted by mravg
Pud, what do you mean by splay?


If you look at the collagen fiber bundles (not the individual collagen fibers themselves) under a microscope, you see only occasional hinge-like cross bundles between bundles (artifact?). The bundles have the capability to spread out from each other (widen the gap between themselves). This is splay.

In my mind (and hopefully in my penis as well), I believe this allows biaxial stretch of the 2 layers of the TA (both along the fiber length and through splaying) to accommodate for length expansion in the circumferential layer and for girth expansion in the longitudinal layer.

Originally Posted by pudendum
If you look at the collagen fiber bundles (not the individual collagen fibers themselves) under a microscope, you see only occasional hinge-like cross bundles between bundles (artifact?). The bundles have the capability to spread out from each other (widen the gap between themselves). This is splay.

In my mind (and hopefully in my penis as well), I believe this allows biaxial stretch of the 2 layers of the TA (both along the fiber length and through splaying) to accommodate for length expansion in the circumferential layer and for girth expansion in the longitudinal layer.


Consider the reinforcing effect of these splays in constructively interfering :) to resist elongation (longitudinal deformation) upon application of longitudinal stress…they align, thereby magnifying their resistance to strain (almost certainly a power function of modulus of elasticity decrease with decrease of angle between orientation of long axis of collagen fiber and applied stress vector). This stress induced physical manifestation (the splaying) in addition to chemical ones (collagen speciation) are, I believe, the origin for the hypothesis of finite length gains, which, I daresay, with no small amount of remorse, there is a plethora of evidence for and an absence of said against.

The same physio-chemical limitation no doubt restricts girth gains, however the ability to focus stress to discreet locations along the TA in the radial vector facilitates the ability to manifest strain…well, discreetly (an ability notably absent from all but the most obscure longitudinal stress application techniques, and sadly none have proven capable in my evaluation of theory or in practice of overcoming the physio-chemical constraints described above). Sum those discreet radial strains along the shaft and one realizes a thicker shaft.

IOW: strain ellipse mechanics of multiple constructively interfering interaction volumes.


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

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ANYONE who wants a thicker dick should apply the technique described herein.

End of story.


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Originally Posted by xenolith
ANYONE who wants a thicker dick should apply the technique described herein.

What technique?


Jelq my boy, jelq like the wind.

You may PM me if necessary.


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Originally Posted by xenolith
ANYONE who wants a thicker dick should apply the technique described herein.

End of story.


Please elaborate.

Originally Posted by Klayton
What technique?

+1

I don’t understand shit in here :) . Too advanced english for me.


Start: 6.3 BPEL x 4.5 MSEG & 4.5 BSEG

Now: 7.7 x 4.7 x 5.5 BSEG

Goal: 8 x 6

Originally Posted by sparkyx
Good stuff guys.

It reinforces my belief that some of the clampers that have had remarkable and rapid gains, probably have one layer of tunica.

I don’t think the number of layers matter when it comes to growth. I was 41 years old when I started PE, had ED and I seem to have grown rather rapidly.
I think older guys may actually grow faster than younger guys. I don’t know. If it is true that you acquire more tunica layers as you get older.

It seems that when you do erect kegels.
Or if you are able to perform the great seal (a kegel of long duration).
This may in fact lead to gains in the CS and glans.


Speak softly carry a big dick, I'm mean stick!

As I said previously, I have been trying to work my glans a lot. Recently I’ve noticed that I’m getting expansion a lot easier and that my glans gets harder faster when I do squeezes. I’m not sure if I’ve gotten any gains yet, but my flaccid glans girth almost looks impressive from time to time.

Originally Posted by xenolith
ANYONE who wants a thicker dick should apply the technique described herein.

End of story.

uhhh…. yeah, what technique? Can you just post it here?

Originally Posted by xenolith
You may PM me if necessary.

I did but no reply.


Later - ttt

I wonder what would happen if you put a constrictive device on your shaft and then did clamping, forcing the predominate pressure to the glan. If per-say you used a sleeve that didn’t cover the glan but then pressured up as usual from a clamp device if over time you could achieve a mushroom shaped glan.


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Originally Posted by pudendum
I totally agree that like any other protein, collagen has multiple interactions (covalent, van der Waals, electron) that bind individual collagen fibers to one another to form discrete collagen bundles. I am talking about collagen bundle cross-links and splay, not individual fibers.

I dare say you will rip your penis off your body before you can apply enough force (energy) to break the covalent bonds between the collagen fibers. You could hang cars and you wouldn’t affect these bonds. You’ll rip the collagen bundles apart but not the fiber interactions.

IMO collagen bundle splay in one layer allows semi-independent PE work in the other (we know that hanging increases girth as well). The resistance and plateau we observe over time comes from increase in the collagen bundle diameter in the direction of our efforts and not from cross-links between the fibers running perpendicular in the other TA layer.

Hello Pudendum,

If you cannot apply sufficient force to break the covalent bonds, or to unbind individual strands of collagen by mechanical force, then would it not make sense to look for other methods that can be used to accomplish that goal?

If that is a reasonable conclusion, then looking at the methods that the body uses to repair collagen could be enlightening?

With the possibility that some people have three layers of collagen in the tunica, others two and still others only one, perhaps that is the reason that some gain better than others? If so, then would it not make sense to again look at how collagen is repaired and replaces to find the method of tissue remodeling?

Certainly in the area that I have been spending time the main factor was PGE-1. That has a number of disadvantages for the common PE user in that it can be dangerous and requires an injection into the penis. But DSMO is topically applied. It does give one bad breath, and a degree of body odor for a while, but perhaps some may not find that objectionable.

As with any PE method, validating a protocol is difficult, but in light of the challenges so well described in this thread, perhaps it may be worth looking into?

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