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@ Computerguy

Jelqing seems to be the common factor here, perhaps at too high erection. I know that tbirdy first broke one of his CCs and then CS/glans. I am not sure that he didn’t have the our problem too, of course, and I would be willing to try stuff that worked for him. Let’s go through the list…..
No PE is obvious. No stress of any kind, actually.
3 litres of water is more than the body needs and becomes unhealthy (if not talking all liquid combined but water).
Massaging I am doing.
Tens I haven’t inquired into. Seems maybe too experimental and unnecessary.
Supplements. My general feeling is that they are mostly irrelevant for mechanical damage like ours, and even potentially harmful for general health, and I will try them only in a really well thought-out plan. Haven’t got to that. Maybe I try to to a blitzkried type stuff soon.
Viagra every night I’ve seriosly considered. There is a vague hope that enhanced nocturnal erections would do some healing. However this is expensive and I haven’t looked into it enough unfortunatelly.
I plan on doing some therapeutic pumping as soon as my privacy situation allows me to.

Thank you, I mean it. Your input is very much appreciated, now and in the future.

Owen, I don’t have a firm flaccid. I was researching injuries because I had decreased EQ and loss of nocturnal and morning erections for 2 weeks, due to over training. They are slowly starting to return. I also had a decrease in flaccid size, but not firm. Similar to what BMashina described in his first post, but not as severe.

As far as the daily viagra, if things are slowly improving on their own, I would just go with rest, hot wraps, and some vitamins and supplements like Ginkgo and korean red ginseng. However, I think that if EQ is still diminished and nocturnal and/or morning erections are not picking up on their own after a couple of months, I would definitely consider the daily viagra. There are online sources to get the generic form that is just as good as brand viagra. You can get 100 mg tables and split them, and easily get a 3 month supply for under $100.

Good advice. I’ve nothing to lose. I think I’m going to ask my uro to give me prescription, as it is a healing method for some.

I’m glad that you’re getting better. If you don’t mind me giving you a piece of advice: be sure to learn from the experience. Being careful is not always enough not to get injured (it wasn’t for me). Instead be smart and inform yourself thoroughly.

Originally Posted by Owen33
Good advice. I’ve nothing to lose. I think I’m going to ask my uro to give me prescription, as it is a healing method for some.

I’m glad that you’re getting better. If you don’t mind me giving you a piece of advice: be sure to learn from the experience. Being careful is not always enough not to get injured (it wasn’t for me). Instead be smart and inform yourself thoroughly.


Oh yeah man, I hear you. I’ve read enough about injuries to make me consider just sticking with pumping, and if any jelqing at all, it will be fewer reps and VERY light.

If you get a prescription from your urologist for brand Viagra it will be pretty expense I think. PM me if you want the link to the site I got the sildenafil from. It’s just as good. You don’t need a prescription, and can order online. It was from outside of the US, and took about 1-2 weeks for delivery.

BTW, how is your EQ and are you getting any nocturnal or morning erections? How long since your injury?

Cheers

I’m 18 and can’t even keep an erection ! I rarely get random erections and morning wood is weak.

:( I’ve bought generic cialis and it does help when I’m physically with a girl. But I’m certain there is something wrong if I have to rely on cialis to just keep an erection for more than a few seconds :\

I think I figured out what the problem is, or atleast, how I caused this.

There is a downwards bend in my penis ( an indent on the lower middle side ) And I’m pretty sure I caused this by pushing my dick when it was erect, against a cushion which BENT it, hence the bend now. Is this now known as PEYRONIES ?!

So I have a damaged area of the penis and I’m pretty sure this is whats affecting blood flow.

How do you think I could heal it ? Just by hot wraps etc ?

So I have a damaged area of the penis and I’m pretty sure this is whats affecting blood flow, as I read, a downwards curve can result in scar tissue forming, and thus affecting nerves and veins etc !!

ATLEAST I think I have found what the problem is, and it probably is the problem for ALL OF US !!

We need to find ways of reducing scar tissue !

Yes that`s correct assumption venom. So now we have to find the best way to do it.

I have contact with one guy who is cured of this (he used actionlove.com supplements) what I will do the same soon (dr. Lin from actionlove concluded that even broken/seriously damaged can be restored to proper functions)

Long time I investigate on that matter (this guy and realize that so many people really don`t know about him and like all other write that he is a quack, actually me too most of the time before.But now I decide to give this guy a chance and after some long hours on his site I think that his staf make sense even the really very complex arguments when I read them slowly.

Beside there is no much evidence when something really helped to cure guys from this condition, what is current situation of Crono or others cured guys ?

If anyone knows someone who had that kind injury and now is cured, please ask them to post some input here.

Because it looks like circumstantial evidence and I barely talked to anyone who was cured (mayby this guy who ordered Lin products).

Hey guys, I have not read all the posts on this thread, so sorry if I’m stating the obvious or if it was already discussed. But if you think you have peyronies, leaks, or other detectable conditions, don’t diagnose yourself or make assumptions. Got to a good urologist. If you have already been to one, AND they have done all the tests AND can’t find a problem AND don’t know anything about PE or related injuries, then your best bet is to do what you’re doing, and try things that worked for other guys on forums like this.

That’s why I posted the discussion by “tbirdy.” Read many of his posts, and he seemed like a pretty smart guy. Not to mention he had the best attitude one could imagine as being in his shoes. The daily viagra thing seemed to make a lot of sense, especially if you’re not having regular nocturnal erections. Those are critical to maintenance, and the 60% of guys with ED who were “cured” by this were between 40 and 50 years old. You guys are young—I’m not suggesting you just do this, but at least discuss it with your urologist. If you look at posts by “daysdrag,” it seems he had no real improvement leaving his dick alone for 8 months, but things started to improve once he started with Viagra. Just an example.

One more note—on the losing erection when standing thing. I’ve read a lot of guys complaining about that on other forums, not related to PE. Seems very common. Does it happen when you’re with a woman? Or when you’re along and just “testing” things out? Jerking off, watching porn, etc. is different than being with a woman. When I started doing PE, I would only stand up to go measure—and I freakin had to do it pretty damn quick, or I would deflate quickly. I’m sure it was a mental thing… never recall it happening with a woman though. Same goes for softer glans. It depends on level of arousal, spontaneous erection vs sexually induced ones, etc. Just make sure you’re distinguishing between real and imagined problems. I know you have real injuries, firm flaccid, etc. just wanted to mention a few things that may OR may not be problems.

@ Computerguy

My injury was about 6 months ago, and since then the state has not changed, except in some details. I usually get morning erections, presuming my penis is not over-used or some weird sleeping pattern occured. However it is only the CCs. I have no spontaneous or random erections at all. They take work, and some work… On horniness alone I can get to about 60% perhaps. On touch alone I mostly cannot even start an erection, but sometimes I can take all the way. Achieved erections are only the CCs and possibly some CS/glans, unless topical pressure on the penis is aplied. I do not lose erections when I stand up, but I cannot even start them standing up, unless with a girl and horny.

I am very sure none of this is imaginary or psychological. How? This maybe useful for others to know. There are two ways to get and build an erection: pyschogenic and reflexogenic. Or plainly speaking, horniness and touch. Horniness is everything from visual to smell to imaginary. Touch is touch. Presuming your nerves are intact, erectile effect of touching is independent and constant. For me both this and response to horniness are very much lowered, although the erection can eventually build up to close to normal. So for me it is probably not a malfunction in closing of the veins as much as inflow beating the outflow first.

Promoting nocturnal erections through drug intake I imagine can be useful for many conditions: weak inflow, nerve damage, any kind of damage that would benefit from additional exercise. I believe this is not the case for me and many others, but it doesn’t hurt to try. I’ve read of daysdrags experience and it is interesting, however it could be only due to increased inflow.

I will PM you about other stuff.

@ Venom

If your curve was not congenital, there’s a good chance you have contracted Peyronies. It this is a case you should be able to get real and legitimate urologic help, and should definitely seek it. Your case history seems to fit. If it is the case options are not many and the sooner you get on a pumping regime, the better, that is my impression from what I read.

@ Walgart

I’ve heard of only two guys healing: 229233 (back in the thread) and Chrono, although he did let us know that he isn’t healed 100% yet. Internet seems to be full of people that claim Lin healed them, but that doesn’t necessarily mean much.

Wow, I’ve been busy and lots of posts.

I havent pumped in a while, I might bust it out tonight, but I really don’t want to masturbate again.

I feel you are correct owen in saying that supplement useage to repair physical damage can cause harm to us. I overused Zinc and my mind became clouded and I started to get headaches. I read about the symptoms of Zinc overdose and that was it.

A blitzkrieg type of usage of supplements is a good idea though. Almost like cycling on supplements. I have experienced really good results with taking a large dose of L-arginine in the morning (6grams) and had an excellent day. Only problem is that if you do it too much the results fade until you give it time off.

For Viagra, I would love to get some. Computerguy, please send my that info if you do not mind. Remember don’t do Ginkgo or L-arginine if you’re going to take viagra guys.

I will once again say, I have had lasting results with increased EQ from the pump. My erection angle is now normal thank god. Still not perfect by a long shot though. And @owen on the veins. It really does scare me to be honest. If I contine and see anymore I will be done for sure.


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP

And BTW, I thought of this the other day. It may be stupid, but I was thinking if we want to prolong erections, the safest way would be to use a cock ring.

No stress, just don’t leave it on too long, and don’t sleep with it on. Wake up with a morning wood, slip it on right away. Get any erection when you’re at home or whatever, slip it on. Keeps blood in there longer for healing purposes, and costs like $3.00 US.

May be worth a try.


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP

Venomx I think you have something different from the rest of us. Considering your symptoms are most similar to Peyroine’s while most of ours are symptoms of jelqing and thus a PE related injury. Correct me if I’m wrong, but most people here with these symptoms don’t have a curve in their penis? If you have peyroine’s there are a lot of known treatments for your condition. Pumping being one of them.

On another note, my erections have gotten much stronger. Also, got a bathmate. Tried to pump.. I’m almost scared to do it. Is it safe? The erection doesn’t come from the pump as I thought it would, it’s a weird feeling.

Originally Posted by BMashina
For Viagra, I would love to get some. Computerguy, please send my that info if you do not mind. Remember don’t do Ginkgo or L-arginine if you’re going to take viagra guys.


Hey, PM me if you want the link, but if your EQ is improving on it’s own I really don’t think you need it. I believe it’s much better to let things pick back up naturally with rest. You said it took 2 months and you started getting morning wood & improved EQ. That’s great. In my opinion, I think if you’re going over 3 - 4 months with no response, then it’s time to intervene and do the Viagra thing, but you sound just fine…which is great to hear.

Cheers

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