Firm flaccid penis

Kenqi, can you link to any websites which show that pumping is good for peyroines? I’ve read that this helps peyroines, and is sometimes suggested by doctors, but can’t seem to understand the way it might work, with regards to peyronies.

Because it forces blood into areas which have scar tissue, and it can help heal it by delivery oxygen and nutrients.

Bad posture is definitely not the problem. But around-the-penis problem might be. Though, also seems less likely than a problem in the penis itself.

Kenqi, are you a future MD? If so - go for urology, please. :)

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There’s a ton of information there for Peyroine’s, and people trying to fix it. I figure some of the stuff they talk about such as reducing fibrosis is related to our condition.

I’ve seriously considered urology.. Just because of the FF. Always wanted to be a neurosurgeon though. Too bad doctors can’t write prescriptions for themselves. :(

One last thing, one of the symptoms of Peyroine’s if not the curvature of the penis, is indentation of the penis on the sides while flaccid. I DEFINITELY have this. It pretty much looks like your penis has a waist.. Can’t describe it any other way.

Ahh I’m so sick of having erections that die when there is no CONSTANT stimulation

I also have a slight curve to the left ( indentation on the left ! )
So I hope the problem is not a venous leak, I hope it’s just damaged fibres which can be repaired with blood flow.

kenqi, what is this indentation? It looks something like this ? alin - Need some advice

Well there’s an idea right there: tell your mom that pumps (do call them VED in front of her) are proven to be a superb way to maintain erectile function and penile health. Tell her it is like exercise for the penis, only better. :) Probably the truth too.

Wow I have that sometimes too.

First, I have to say I forgot to thank Vanillavute for his input on the previous page. Thanks man. ;) I don’t think the disconnected feeling is caused by posture or anything because it coincided with a very real jelqing injury, unfortunatelly. This “disconnectedness” seems to have weakened a lot, but it consists in weaker signals from my penis to cause erection and lack of my inward erectile control through kegels. Basically like it stopped being as much mine as it was before, when it comes to erecting.

Did you always have this or did it appear with the FF?

@ Kenqi

I am a little surprised that you are “consulting” (kindof) these things with us. Don’t you have access to medical literature and people who know this stuff? Why don’t you try telling them you have a friend who messed up his penis and ask away?

Tell me what do you think of the “collagen” explanation offered by “dr.Lin”? Is there such a thing in the penis?

Also, is there any sort of fibrosis that can happen - and is it permanent or temporary? This is what I had in mind… A few pages back Westell quoted someone who told him “Firm flaccid penis indicates a fibrosis there. It is not frequently happened in your case since it is over one year.” To repeat myself, this would seem to imply that a fibrosis can happen but is usually resolved in a year (which might explain why some guys get better with time - even I seem to be).
Now uro told me that jeqing can only cause temporary edematous and give a very high opportunity of leftover fibrosis, and that these give a subjective impression of increased size and hardness (in fact fibrosis). (This is NOT my opinion, but his.) Now lets take these two professional statements together. They explain a lot without Peyronies or anything else.

What do you think?

Hey Owen33,

Just want to clarify, I am a pre-med student still in undergraduate college for my third year. I am hardly qualified to make any real medical opinions. So while I do have access to doctors every now and then when I shadow them, I don’t take the opportunity to ask the neurosurgeon or cardiologist I’m shadowing about penis indentations..

I think what you are saying is exactly true, but remember, fibrosis in the penis is the definition of Peyroines. Peyroines, like what you’ve mentioned above, have been reported to heal overtime in many patients, but as many as there are healing stories, there are stories of people who have lived with the symptoms for decades. So this leftover fibrosis is what we’re trying to get rid of, and the best way to do that is through the same methods people are using to treat Peyroines. We are lucky enough to not have the curve and the pain, thank god. But there are definitely cases in which a fibrosis plaque can cause the pinching of a nerve or the blocking of vessels, which could be causing our symptoms of disconnectedness and reduced blood flow.

About collagen by the way.. Just to clarify, I think it’s the same theory. Collagen build up is what is referred to as fibrosis. So really we’re talking about the same thing.

Maybe in a year or two when I’m a resident (hopefully.) I can shed some better light on our symptoms.

Also, ironaddict, does it make your penis look like an hourglass? Cause if so, I think we got the same thing.

Another little update. After my 1 day break, 2 days off masturbation. I was feeling a little firm at times today, enough to bother me and have me notice.

So I warmed up and busted out the pump. One thing I can say for sure is that my EQ has improved. When sitting my erection angle used to be straight out, now it is pointing upwards like a normal erection should consistantly. And I require less stimulation, and the erection comes quicker.

Definetly an improvement there.

One thing that is concerning me is the appearance of small veins in the skin. You cannot feel them, or move them around, but there are definetly more.

Kenqi,

I was under the impression that there was significant difference between collagen, fibrosis and Peyronie’s.
I am pretty sure there is a difference between collagen and PD, where collagen would be normal post-damage formation, while Peyronies is like scar-tissue gone wild (like cancer for instance).
Okay I’ll quit theorizing now and read up. Then I’ll report.

Do any of you have bumpy, or uneaven CC’s?

And about the whole hour glass thing, would my dick having smaller girth at the middle/base area than at the base and top half be considered so?

Yes. Thats it - if it wasnt always like that.

Personally I still consider it highly unlikely to be PD.