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Open Call to Extender Users and Abusers

Originally Posted by ilovetacos
I know everyone is different but how long did it take for you to gain. And what routine did you use

I really didn’t use a routine. Back when I got my device, I just wore it when I found time after doing some stretching. From 15 minutes to 3 hours a day around 3 or 4 days a week. Over 18 months I gained 1.3” in length and .75” in girth. But I just wore it, rested a lot, stayed consistent as I could.

I bought mine 7 years ago, I had next no discipline back then to be honest.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

So I decided to switch it up and am now using just the strap (no quad, no noose). I did this same thing a little over a week ago and noticed both times that I’m getting a different type of stretch doing it this way. It feels like there is a stronger pull on my insides this way, even though I get a longer extension the other way. Not sure if that makes sense. But I’m planning on doing it this way for a week and getting a nice deep stretch, and rotating back to the quad support next week.

Seems to be paying off anyhow. I’m glad to report that the last time I used the X4 without the quad, I used one less elongation rod, and I had to wrestle my penis into it. This time around, I’m one rod the longer and I’ve even got some room to spare. But I attribute a lot of it to the initial skin stretch phase.

Really liking how this thread is moving. It’s nice to be knee deep in extender talk.


There's principalities in the whole thing.

I’ve decided to go the cheap route. I will probably start using my X4 again for length, as I’ve found the rest of the missing bits. And I think I may even figure out the comfort strap that the newbie version of me never understood. I know I hated the noose and will not do it again.

I may drop you a PM if I get stuck, Big Worm.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Originally Posted by straal1969
As for results, I’m pleased. I’ve been a grower my whole life and would like to be more of a shower. In that respect my extender is working. I’ve gained in flaccid length (#1 woo hoo) and also a bit of erect length (#2 wooo). My BPFL is now 6.25”, that’s a gain of 1.25”, my BPEL at last measurement over a month ago is 7.25” a gain of .25”. My girth hasn’t changed at all.

Sure looks like you’re on a positive path. Congrats on the gains!

I would recommend that maybe you can fiddle around with the tension bars some to make the most of your time in traction. There is surely to be a window of time between adding bars when you’ll be well served to load up on tension.


There's principalities in the whole thing.

Originally Posted by Big Worm
Sure looks like you’re on a positive path. Congrats on the gains!

I would recommend that maybe you can fiddle around with the tension bars some to make the most of your time in traction. There is surely to be a window of time between adding bars when you’ll be well served to load up on tension.


I’ll take that into consideration thanks. I’m still seeing gains by using a low amount of traction once that stops, then I’ll be twirling
those screws.


Cheers, my starting stats 17-02-2016

BPFL=5.0" (12.7cm) BPEL=7.0" (17.78cm) EG=TBA

FG=4.0" (10.16cm) EG= 4.5" (11.4cm)

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
I’ve decided to go the cheap route. I will probably start using my X4 again for length, as I’ve found the rest of the missing bits. And I think I may even figure out the comfort strap that the newbie version of me never understood. I know I hated the noose and will not do it again.

I may drop you a PM if I get stuck, Big Worm.

Any time! Try the comfort strap on its own and maybe the combo comfort strap/noose deal with the quad if you’re up to it. I know you said you don’t want to subject yourself to the noose, but when it’s used together with the strap, it functions and feels altogether different. Plus I have a toe jelly cushion mod that I’ve attached to the noose for a bit of extra comfort. Will get the details and include them in a post soon.


There's principalities in the whole thing.

Originally Posted by straal1969
I’ll take that into consideration thanks. I’m still seeing gains by using a low amount of traction once that stops, then I’ll be twirling
those screws.

No need to be fudging with gains when you’re getting them. Smart man.


There's principalities in the whole thing.

How are each of you gauging (feeling) when it’s time to move to the next level, whether it be adding another rod or a few more turns? This seems to be one place for great subjectivity.

The exact Thread I have been Looking for

The first device ever invested in was a “quick extender pro”.. I chose it instead of the X4 simply because of review said the double noose system was the most comfortable and least likely to need adjustment thru the day..

However, the only way to increase tension is by adding bars.. There is no tension adjusting screws/nuts..

The main thing I’m interested in knowing, is why more people don’t utilize extenders in a post workout routine!?

I’ve gained 3/8 of an inch in over the last four months by wearing the extender for an average of 4 to 5 hours a day, broken up in intervals.

I read a really interesting theory supported by one of the mods (Firegoat), that spoke about the potential benefits to keeping yourself in an extended state, post workout, while the collagen fibers begin to cool..

This seems very medically sound for the types of biology were looking to achieve with manual exercises.. So I immediately put my extender on once I get out of the shower and then take my multivitamins and, sometimes, go to happy hour :-)

I have followed so many other peoples advice for routines, but it doesn’t seem like there’s a whole lot of others who have experimented like I have with utilizing an extender post doing manual exercises . .And I personally really believe it’s assisted me in my gains! Especially with the concept of them becoming cemented..

Just my thoughts! Anybody supporting or having a different theory I’m really interested in hearing!


The difference between try and triumph, is putting more 'umph' in your TRY!

Originally Posted by WaterManDan
The first device ever invested in was a “quick extender pro”.. I chose it instead of the X4 simply because of review said the double noose system was the most comfortable and least likely to need adjustment thru the day..
However, the only way to increase tension is by adding bars.. There is no tension adjusting screws/nuts..
The main thing I’m interested in knowing, is why more people don’t utilize extenders in a post workout routine!?
I’ve gained 3/8 of an inch in over the last four months by wearing the extender for an average of 4 to 5 hours a day, broken up in intervals.
I read a really interesting theory supported by one of the mods (Firegoat), that spoke about the potential benefits to keeping yourself in an extended state, post workout, while the collagen fibers begin to cool..
This seems very medically sound for the types of biology were looking to achieve with manual exercises.. So I immediately put my extender on once I get out of the shower and then take my multivitamins and, sometimes, go to happy hour :-)
I have followed so many other peoples advice for routines, but it doesn’t seem like there’s a whole lot of others who have experimented like I have with utilizing an extender post doing manual exercises . .And I personally really believe it’s assisted me in my gains! Especially with the concept of them becoming cemented..
Just my thoughts! Anybody supporting or having a different theory I’m really interested in hearing!

What you describe is more the job of an All Day Stretcher or ADS. This will hold you in an extended state more gently than the X4 as the X4 isn’t the best long term stretching device supplement to a routine. It functions fine as the backbone of one, safer than mostly unattended use like an ADS.

I do suppose you can set it to low tension to do what you describe but there are more friendly devices for that job. I’ve seen a lot of injuries with X4 overuse in an ads role is my main concern.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Originally Posted by WaterManDan
The first device ever invested in was a “quick extender pro”.. I chose it instead of the X4 simply because of review said the double noose system was the most comfortable and least likely to need adjustment thru the day..
However, the only way to increase tension is by adding bars.. There is no tension adjusting screws/nuts..
The main thing I’m interested in knowing, is why more people don’t utilize extenders in a post workout routine!?
I’ve gained 3/8 of an inch in over the last four months by wearing the extender for an average of 4 to 5 hours a day, broken up in intervals.
I read a really interesting theory supported by one of the mods (Firegoat), that spoke about the potential benefits to keeping yourself in an extended state, post workout, while the collagen fibers begin to cool..
This seems very medically sound for the types of biology were looking to achieve with manual exercises.. So I immediately put my extender on once I get out of the shower and then take my multivitamins and, sometimes, go to happy hour :-)
I have followed so many other peoples advice for routines, but it doesn’t seem like there’s a whole lot of others who have experimented like I have with utilizing an extender post doing manual exercises . .And I personally really believe it’s assisted me in my gains! Especially with the concept of them becoming cemented..
Just my thoughts! Anybody supporting or having a different theory I’m really interested in hearing!

Great point of focus. In the near future best practice might speak to wearing some form of extender after significant “workouts”. I suspect a place of study will be the difference between wearing the extender to provide gains and wearing an extender to promote healing in a lengthened state.

Wearing the extender to provide length gains would be similar to hanging, but under less tension, creating some micro tears that will eventually require healing. Ultimately wearing the extender for some extended time after max extension at a lower tension level to allow healing to happen in more lengthened state.

The other use being to wear the extender say after an intense hanging, jelqing, pumping, or etc routine, again, not at max tension, but some percentage of that to promote healing in the lengthened state.

As a matter of fact I believe the Stealth system might point exactly at the concept. There is currently a thread on this product. It is probably the way to go for healing in the lengthened state after workouts. It will mitigate retraction and is comfortable since it is made from soft material, it can be worn for extended periods since it is not worn at high tension.

Very interesting point that if not already will probably get more attention in the future.

Originally Posted by Javeez
Great point of focus. In the near future best practice might speak to wearing some form of extender after significant “workouts”. I suspect a place of study will be the difference between wearing the extender to provide gains and wearing an extender to promote healing in a lengthened state.

You are describing an All Day Stretcher. They are specifically designed for low to no tension and only to hold you extended. There are a variety out there now.

My issue is the X4 is a poor all day stretcher due to the weight and attachment style of the device compared to some of the other cheaper, lighter, less abrasive options.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
What you describe is more the job of an All Day Stretcher or ADS. This will hold you in an extended state more gently than the X4 as the X4 isn’t the best long term stretching device supplement to a routine. It functions fine as the backbone of one, safer than mostly unattended use like an ADS.

I do suppose you can set it to low tension to do what you describe but there are more friendly devices for that job. I’ve seen a lot of injuries with X4 overuse in an ads role is my main concern.

I should have waited to hear your response before I posted mine, I’m a nube, need to read more write less:-)

Thanks

Originally Posted by Javeez
How are each of you gauging (feeling) when it’s time to move to the next level, whether it be adding another rod or a few more turns? This seems to be one place for great subjectivity.

I gauge it by the amount of slack I feel on my shaft when wearing the extender. You might notice that there is some flex in your penis ever when the device is set to max tension. That’s pretty good indication you can move up a bar albeit at lower tension.

However, I’ll add that our approaches differ in one respect. I happen to not wear my extender at max tension. And that’s probably because I prefer to move up a rod and use it at low tension as opposed to maxing out my tension at a say…lower rod length. This approach has the added benefit of allowing the penis to relax into increasing levels of force during a given set.


There's principalities in the whole thing.

I have been using an X4 with a VacExtender mod kit for holding the glans for past four years after using the quad support for the first year. I averaged about 3 hours a day. It took me five years to gain 3/4 inch in length. I gained an additional 0.15 inch in last six months.

I find that if I use the extender for an hour to 1.5 hours and then rest for thirty minutes, I can get a lot more additional stretch (seems I can unscrew the rods an additional up to 1/2 inch) during the next session. It appears the first session “limbers up” my dick in preparation for the more intense second and third sessions.


Start 11/09 BPEL: 5.5", EG: 4.4"

Current. BPEL: 6:4", EG: 5.5"

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