More thoughts on how growth occurs.

Hmm… :-Y

Shame on me!!!

Marinera, you really have not fully understood the content of my comments, you have not really provided any substantive criticism for what I am saying. I have indicated strong arguments for the “inner penis” as the key factor to realizing penis enlargement. I have said that the growth experienced does not happen in a linear fashion, linear growth curves prescribe quantity increases by some fixed amount during each unit of time. One of the primary factors for looking at growth derived by exposing the inner penis is because that is a “limiting factor.” We can increase size by 1”, 2” and rarely 3” ( I do not account for the anomaly) and that is about it. What are the limiting factors in the other theories?

Our penis is analogous to our shoe size or hand size, it is genetically determined, for practical reasons we can state that penis’ come in small (4”-5”), medium (5”-6.5”), large (7”-8”) X-large (8”-?), these are just common sense arenas and you can throw in the girth stats; obviously, a person with huge girth >6 is going to move up a category. PE and realizing your inner penis will move a person up one size level, relatively speaking, it is very difficult to jump two sizes because it would usually require gaining more than 2” in length and girth. It is human nature to be awed by a few individuals in this forum that have X-Large penis’, but they have not discovered any magic formulas, they just started out quite large to begin with and have added inches like a lot of people here.

If your interested in formulas or studies in flow dynamics you can find them in the article mentioned earlier or discover your own research. The male erection is a complicated system and if there were ways of manipulating the inflow and outflow of blood by somehow tweaking the valves you could theoretically “dial-in your size and hardness,” the tunica has always been thought of as the Achilles heel in PE but the study sited indicates valves are not shut-off due to restrictions of the tunica. The corpus chambers can hold much more blood than we think and the study indicates the cylindrical expansion is perhaps more elastic than you would think. The study was done to examine ED by looking at structural deficiencies in the erection that cause what they term “buckling of the penis.” This expandability is more in the way of circumferential influences than length or axial elasticity.

So, it would seem that girth increases are the target; especially if you have pretty much maxed out your inner penis. I do not know what it is but if your girth is 5.75” and you are able to increase that 1/4”, the visual impact is like night and day. It is the difference in reaction from, “gee, thats a very nice penis,” to “Man, you are huge.”

Marinera, you also mentioned that my explanations somehow invalidated PE and why don’t you just use pills??? I do not know where this comes from but I have always indicated that resistive forces are needed to grow your penis. There are “growers” and “showers” for some neurological reasons, if you are a grower your inner penis pretty much remains hidden until an erection or some environmental influences cause degrees of tumescence. The “shower” will on some occasions realize the inner penis in improved flaccid size, for some reason their valves are not as sensitive to thermo-regulatory actions or neurological conditions.

I’ll skip the first two paragraphs, as they were merely a bunch of words after each other.

Firegoat already answered that - rubbish.

Then why doesn’t the penis expand like a fucking balloon when you clamp, then?

More words.

But no sense.

I congratulate you mgus, on your ability to read words, it is too bad your brain cannot comprehend the words. Actually, your penis would expand like a fucking balloon if given the chance. The penis is a complicated matrix of orthogonal fibrous tissue and by clamping it at one end you encounter this matrix of tissue in its full force, it quickly reaches a fully compressed state and reacts like a straight-jacket. Now, if you were to localize an area around mid-shaft and isolate it from both ends the tissue that remains will bulge out like a balloon. And like a balloon it will rupture if the forces exceed the threshold of the tissue.

This is actually demonstrated in real life circumstances when you see individuals that have deformed their penis’ to look like a bowling pin. You can seriously bulge the penis if that is your goal, but not many will find it very attractive.

Master of Gibberish.

Farewell til next time Shilow.

Oh-dear, oh-dear :P. I was about to respond to his post, yet thought it simply wasn’t worth it. He seems like one of the “actionlove.com” kind.

P.s. this private Shilow joke- what’s with it?

This guy has been banned quite a few times under different names. Shilow is the one that I remember easily.

Good old Shilow, it’s becoming a tradition.

In a basic sense, limited genetic potential to change, along with a limited need to adapt to stimuli.

The genetic factor is the same reason that a new bodybuilder may gain 20 lbs. of muscle during their first year, but will be unable to do this constantly for the next five. The actual limiting reason will differ depending on the case, but the body will not be able to continue to grow consistently, even if given sufficient stimulus. With bodybuilders, this may be due to lower rates of protein synthesis, or anything else (one of the reasons steroids are useful - they lift a bit of the limiting factor off). The genetic factor of course also depends on the tools the body has available, so the better the tools, the better it can adapt - to some genetic end.

The limited need to adapt to stimuli depends on the stimuli. The body will only adapt if it needs to. If a penis has adapted enough that the stimulus (a certain weight for hanging, or certain number of sets or TUC for clamping) no longer necessitates adaptation, the body will not adapt. If the stimulus keeps necessitating adaptation, then the body will stop at the aforementioned genetic factor, where although it is prompted to adapt, it no longer can (due to various limiting factors).

So if someone stops growing, it is likely because of the stimuli at first. If the stimuli are changed and used intelligently, and still no growth occurs, we may have reached a genetic limit given the nurture (nutrition, sleep, hormonal level, etc.) that the body is in. If we improve upon that nurture further, the person may grow more, until he reaches a serious genetic limit for all stimuli.

Most of the time, I believe, growth in PE stops due to poor use of stimuli. We really still don’t know how to use the stimuli to derive the best adaptation…yet.

Growers utilize more of their inner penis? The penis does not EXIT the body substantially, it grows basically due to a change that allows blood to be pumped into the outer penis. Inner penis does not jump out. The difference between growers and showers is in the relative compositions of their penises, and the state of the smooth muscle tissues. This difference explains how much blood is kept in the penis at a relaxed state under normal conditions, and how much the blood pumped in during erections will change the penis size.

EDIT: Wrote this before I realized he was banned.

Ah, normal service has been resumed!

For anyone just coming to this thread, or reading from the end backwards, you will probably get more out of it if you briefly skim through (or ignore!) nearly all the posts from 28 to 66 (post 66 tells you why).

Very nice theory.

What I don’t really understand is if the inner penis is mainly responsible for the extra length,which is a valid argument,when I stretch(I mainly stretch upward,Mandingo) I feel a pull in supra pubic fat pad,so I imagine that there is a lot buried inside of you,but if that is the case and the tunica isn’t what is growing,how about girth?

I mean how does someone gain 2 to 4 inches of GIRTH doing penis enlargement if it doesn’t involve a enlargement of the tunica and increase of the soft muscle tissue?

I suppose this shilow is gone,but could anyone tell me that?

BTW I swear It feels a little bigger,but it Does not look bigger?anyone experience that? Maybe It’s just my weed that makes it feel bigger

Smokey Smokey

The inner penis isn’t mainly responsible for extra length, at least not after the ‘newbie’ period. Stretching downward should be felt in the fundiform and suspensory ligs anchoring the ‘root’ of the penis to the pubic symphysis (suprapubic).

Stretching these ligs does not actually let out any ‘inner penis’ but allows the pubic area directly above the root to ‘relax’ back a little, effectively showing more of the dorsum (upper side) of the penis, thus making it look longer and hang more ‘relaxed’ and straight down, rather than ‘jutting out’ a bit at the base as happens with tight ligs. In terms of bone pressed or ‘insertable/grinding’ length it makes no real difference, but increases visual size, especially flaccid.

Once past this initial lig loosening, further length gains, certainly any ‘substantial’ gains, will come from the tunica enlarging. Girth gains also come from tunica enlargement (and its associated tissues). Maybe not 4 inches though :eek:

And feeling bigger but not looking bigger… The bad news is it will never look bigger to you, even when other people’s jaws hang slack at the very sight of it! Hey, that’s life! :chuckle:

Magick?