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Jelqing has destroyed my life A warning.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
Twenty jelqing strokes with a 2/3 erection, stopping before you reach the glans, is force that would easily be met or exceeded by any number of sexual activities, including ordinary masturbation or intercourse.

That is the part that confuses me. I’m willing to accept some type of injury may have occurred (although some psychological issues may also play a role) but I’ve seen testicles and penises stretched almost to the knees (e.g. infection, injury, etc.) and even after major surgery they often function normally. So willy’s injury (if strictly physical) is confusing me. I have come across posts of guys reporting kinda similar problems and the urologist diagnoses them with performance anxiety, depression, etc. I myself, have had problems (psychological) with getting an erection due to damaging my frenulum due to intercourse when I was younger but it only lasted a few weeks not 15 months or so.

As one of many examples (Big Warning: very gross, don’t open if you can’t handle this shit):

“Post-operative recovery was smooth and the patient developed satisfactory erectile and voiding function.”

“Tunica albuginea is one of the strongest fasciae in the human body. In a flaccid state it is up to 2.4 mm thick and during erection it becomes as thin as 0.25 to 0.5 mm, thus becoming vulnerable to fracture. The intra-corporeal pressure of 1500 mmHg or more during erection can tear the tunica albuginea.”

http://www.ayubmed.edu.pk/JAMC/PAST/21-3/Badar.pdf


Last edited by bohm : 09-07-2010 at .

bohm, do you doubt that the problems people encounter are physical and believe they are more psychological?

I would agree if the problem is limited to getting hard only, but what about us who have firm flaccid and zero sensation?

Originally Posted by Longingforlong
bohm, do you doubt that the problems people encounter are physical and believe they are more psychological? I would agree if the problem is limited to getting hard only, but what about us who have firm flaccid and zero sensation?



I honestly do not know. I’m not a urologist. I do know that anxiety and a minor injury can mess you up (even to the point of your dick feeling numb). And it’s clear that a larger representation of anxiety-prone (or other psychological problems) guys hang around these type of forums. So it’s certainly possible that it’s a self-full-filling prophecy. You have anxiety, you injure yourself a bit, you over-react, you post your concerns, other guys similar to you all of the sudden report the same thing, etc.

But it’s just one possibility. I could be wrong, especially given some of the videos/pics I seen of what guys are doing with their penises. But 20 mild jelqs and permanent injury? I find that hard to believe, unless there was some weakness before and/or psychological issues involved. Just my opinion, though.

Originally Posted by bohm
That is the part that confuses me. I’m willing to accept some type of injury may have occurred (although some psychological issues may also play a role) but I’ve seen testicles and penises stretched almost to the knees (e.g. infection, injury, etc.) and even after major surgery they often function normally….

During sports, my son once took a vicious hit to the groin. His scrotum eventually turned blue-black & swelled up larger than a softball. It was horrifying (we took him to the doctor of course). But, as you said, he didn’t complain of any aftereffects, even after such a traumatic injury.

Originally Posted by marinera
Does cialis gives you normal erections? I missed this point.

You don’t want to give answers to questions now, just say thanks to people that say ‘poor you’, ‘get well soon’, odd.

I can promise you that we who experience zero sensation is not affected by our psyche.
I can have my penis put in cold water without me ever knowing it.
It’s numb, dead and my penis and testicles act as if it’s cold.
This is physical observation, which can not be brought on by psyche.

Yes it sounds incredible that someone can have their life destroyed by something that wouldn’t affect others at all.
It’s kind of like how certain drugs can be used/abused by someone for all their life and not affect them, but for others it kills them immediately.

I think PE is good for some, but I think there should be more warnings, because let’s be honest, when you lose your dick, you lose your life, and many will and have already commited suicide over these things.
Which is why I feel it’s important to get this points across, yes PE is generally safe, but you never know if it’ll infact destroy your life.
Is risking your life over 1 inch worth it? You decide… Because if your not willing to trade your life for 1-2 inches, you should not do PE - at all.

Ok, let’s recapitulate, WW: 1 year and half you became impotent and lose sensitivity; in this span of time, you never tried an erection enhancer drugs to see if you could have erections; exams have started only recently, no doctors have any idea of what the cause would be or how this injury happened, they only monitored nocturnal erections (which you have), have not checked if there is a damaged nerve (what can be done with a tomography) neither tried giving you viagra. You are on antidepressants but your problem is not psychological.

I don’t know, this all doesn’t sounds so much..uhm…linear, if it’s clear what I mean.

Lack of sensation can be tested simply by filling up a glass with gold or warm water and dip it in, fi you feel something you have sensation, if you don’t there is a physical problem

This is all you have done to see if you have a damaged nerve, Longing?

Originally Posted by casperjones
You don’t want to give answers to questions now, just say thanks to people that say ‘poor you’, ‘get well soon’, odd.

I have been on one tablet of cialis a day for 5 days and have seen no change in my symptoms.

Trying to keep hold of an erection is still like trying to fill a balloon with a hole in it full of water.

Originally Posted by marinera
Ok, let’s recapitulate, WW: 1 year and half you became impotent and lose sensitivity; in this span of time, you never tried an erection enhancer drugs to see if you could have erections; exams have started only recently, no doctors have any idea of what the cause would be or how this injury happened, they only monitored nocturnal erections (which you have), have not checked if there is a damaged nerve (what can be done with a tomography) neither tried giving you viagra. You are on antidepressants but your problem is not psychological.

I don’t know, this all doesn’t sounds so much..uhm…linear, if it’s clear what I mean.

If you can find me a case where a Tomography has been used to photograph a damaged nerve in a penis I’ll be very grateful.

Computed Tomography (CT) Scan of the Spine

The dye make structures and organs easier to see on the CT pictures. The dye may be used to check blood flow and to look for tumors, areas of inflammation, or nerve damage.
http://www.webmd.com/brain/computed…an-of-the-spine

Traumatic injuries can be assessed by computed tomography (CT) and nerve conduction studies (ENoG).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_nerve_paralysis

Nerve conduction study

A nerve conduction study (NCS) is a test commonly used to evaluate the function, especially the ability of electrical conduction, of the motor and sensory nerves of the human body.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve_conduction_study

Not sure about CT studies but just in case you do have a physical problem and find this useful (I posted it before):

“Neurogenic evaluation of ED: The diagnosis of neurogenic ED is problematic, as there is no test available to examine the autonomic nervous system (Weiske 1997). The measurement of the latency of the bulbocavernous reflex (BCRL) is probably the most widely used neurophysiologic test. It can reveal only lesions of the somatic penile innervation (pudendal nerve), but not of the autonomic innervation (parasympathetic and sympathetic nerves). Wagner and Gerstenberg (1988) reported measurement of electric potentials in the cavernous body. Unfortunately, corpus cavernosum EMG (cc-EMG) does not meet the demand to detect reliably autonomic neuropathy of the cavernous body and smooth muscle dysfunction as a result of degeneration because of artifacts; there is, however, some hope that intelligent software will be capable of identifying and eliminating these artifacts in the future (Stief et al. 1994).”

http://herkules.oulu.fi/isbn9514253868/html/x406.html

Older review of Subcommittee of the American Academy of Neurology:

“Although electrodiagnostic testing is important in defining neurologic lesions that can cause sexual dysfunction, the sensitivity and specificity of these tests in the detection of impotence have not been established. The autonomic nervous system is in all probability at least as important as the somatic nervous system in the production of penile erections. At this time, there is no direct method of measuring autonomic innervation of penile structures. Pudendal nerve function appears to be more important in the evaluation of penile sensation and ejaculation. The bulbocavernosus reflex is considered analogous to the ejaculation reflex. The ability to measure bulbocavernosus reflex responses and pudendal SSEPs in women make this the only test with the potential of measuring organic neurologic disturbances that would result in anorgasmia.”

http://www.neurology.org/cgi/reprint/45/12/2287

That’s about impotence, though. He lacks sensitivity also, what should be caused by nerve damage. One or more of the above mentioned exams had to be performed I guess.

” Kevin Pho, MD, Jul 19, 2007 12:00AM
Penile trauma and nerve damage can significantly longer to heal. There is a possibility that the symptoms and damage may be long lasting.

A referral to a urologist and neurologist can help evaluate the symptoms and treatment would depend on the extent of the damage. Nerve tests such as an EMG can be considered. “
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Urolog…age/show/226969

“Penile biothesiometry
This test uses electromagnetic vibration to evaluate sensitivity and nerve function in the glans and shaft of the penis. A decreased perception of vibration may indicate nerve damage in the pelvic area, which can lead to impotence.”
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/i/impotence/wiki.htm


Last edited by marinera : 09-08-2010 at .
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