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Jelqing has destroyed my life A warning.

Marinera,

This shit worries me and you’ve been here for ages. So here’s my question. What do you estimate the chances of one guy messing up his knob by doing 20-30 mild jelqs? Not to put you on the spot and you don’t have to answer and I know anything is possible but just give a rough estimation, if you have any idea whatsoever. Thanks.

Marinera, well having zero sensation in your penis for 9 months at any given time of the day, is enough proof don’t you think?
There is nothing else that will give you 100% numbness 100% of the time.

bohm: why are you so skeptical of people having destroyed their penis?
Is it that hard to believe?

Originally Posted by marinera
I don’t know, this all doesn’t sounds so much..uhm…linear, if it’s clear what I mean.

This is my point exactly. Well, let’s assume, however, that his state of mind is not altogether there, if I was in the situation he describes, I can only imagine how my thinking might be. But one thing that is clear is we are getting precious little information.
Are you combining the anti-depressants with the cialis? Did your urologist bring this up? What anti-depressants have you be subscribed and in what dosages. Look, I’m not a doctor and I don’t pretend to be but there are hundreds of people on this forum who do have experience with anti-depressants and even probably combining drugs. The more information you give the more people can understand the situation and help possibly.

Originally Posted by bohm
Marinera,

This shit worries me and you’ve been here for ages. So here’s my question. What do you estimate the chances of one guy messing up his knob by doing 20-30 mild jelqs? Not to put you on the spot and you don’t have to answer and I know anything is possible but just give a rough estimation, if you have any idea whatsoever. Thanks.


Right, anything is possible. But I don’t want to avoid the question. I think if one abide the advices given on this forum, the chances to have a permanent injury from PE are less than 1 on 100. The chances to have a permanent injury doing 20-30 mild jelqs are about null IMHO.

Years ago, there was a lot of concern about possible nerve damage; many reported they suspected their sensitivity was reduced; none of them, that I can remember, reported nerve damage from jelqing : ony from stretching and using noose stretchers/hangers. After a while, this pandemic nerve damage subsided.

Lately, venous leakage became popoular :a bunch of guys claimed the had venous leakage caused by jelqing. This epidemy also seems to go subsiding by itslef.

Having a permanent nerve damage from PE it’s unlikely to happen suddenly: if it was the case, reproduction from sexual intercourses would be very hard. :)

It is possible to damage penile nerves, but this would require repeated use of too much force in the wrong part of the penis - mostly where the dorsal nerve is near the surface; the damage would begin with a tingling sensation, then if one insist doing the wrong thing numbness, and finally a long term injury (not necessarily permanent) would happen. A sudden damage from jus one event or session? This can happen with prolonged ischemia or something like a car crush.

What I find strange, among other things, in WW report, is that he seems to suggest both nerve damage and venous leakage. From 20-30 mild jelqs. The odds? 1 on 1 million at most, in my humble opinion. Way more likely some kind of disease, like for example diabetes.

Originally Posted by willy wonka
I know “how” it happened.

My penis was fine for 27 years. Then I did a minute of jelqing. And for the 15 months and 14 days following that minute of jelqing my penis hasn’t functioned, looked or felt the same.

Can I be any clearer than that?

And by “compressed” he meant my penis has been “compressed” or “squeezed” (a word you yourself mention in your third paragraph). A “sqeezing injury”.

How much pressure did you use while jelqing? Tell us a % of your strength or estimate?

Originally Posted by Longingforlong

Marinera, well having zero sensation in your penis for 9 months at any given time of the day, is enough proof don’t you think?

There is nothing else that will give you 100% numbness 100% of the time.

….

I don’t understand your question. Proof of what? If one wants to know what’s the cause of something, exams are done, than a diagnosis, cure, prognosis. If you have zero sensation in your penis at any given time of the day, what do you do, just sit down and think all the day: ‘Ok, I’ve broken my penis’. You don’t ask for exams for 1 year and half (where you got 9 months?). You don’t try if medicines can work? You don’t want to know how and why it happened - in the precise meaning, things like ‘What has been damaged? A vein? A nerve? The tunica albuginea?- and if something can be done? No?

Originally Posted by marinera
Right, anything is possible. But I don’t want to avoid the question. I think if one abide the advices given on this forum, the chances to have a permanent injury from PE are less than 1 on 100. The chances to have a permanent injury doing 20-30 mild jelqs are about null IMHO.

I appreciate your feedback marinera. You are a real asset to this forum with your advice/help. That’s what I was thinking to myself but my anxious part isn’t very rational, sometimes. I’ve looked at so many reviews of pumping, hanging, extenders, etc. and I will look at more but it seems injuries are quite rare. Unfortunately there is relatively little research on jelqing. Some interesting quotes on injury to tunica:

“In Middle Eastern countries, the injury is usually due to penile manipulation to achieve detumescence. This is the traditional practice of Taqaandan (also Taghaandan), which comes from a Kurdish word meaning ‘to click’, involving bending the top part of the erect penis while holding the lower part of the shaft in place, until a click is heard and felt. Additional rare aetiologies include turning over in the bed, a direct blow, forced bending or hastily removing or applying clothing with the penis erect.”

So erect bends appear to have a greater injury potential as everybody hear knows.

“Tunica albuginea is one of the strongest fasciae in the human body. In a flaccid state it is up to 2.4 mm thick and during erection it becomes as thin as 0.25 to 0.5 mm, thus becoming vulnerable to fracture.”

I take this to mean that doing any type of PEing in the erect state is more conducive to injury which is what everybody here is saying also.

http://www.ayubmed.edu.pk/JAMC/PAST/21-3/Badar.pdf

Originally Posted by bohm
“Tunica albuginea is one of the strongest fasciae in the human body. In a flaccid state it is up to 2.4 mm thick and during erection it becomes as thin as 0.25 to 0.5 mm, thus becoming vulnerable to fracture.”


That… is fascinating & worth remembering. I think anyone who PE’s a lot though has either a stronger or thicker Tunica, although how much thicker, I’m not sure if anyone could say, and it probably varies depending on conditioning.

Some thickening or toughening must occur even during the newbie routine, since guys that make it past this point seem much less prone to injury.

Which leads to a question: what % did willy wonka jelq at?

Exactly Bohm. Never bend an erect penis, is the most dangerous thing one can do.

The post about Taqandaan is interesting; I posted about it elsewhere, but I can’t find the study right now: it is interesting to note that in even in the extreme case of penile rupture, the penis can heal in about 6-12 months and in many cases it’s not even required a surgery.

Thanks for your kind words.

I’m taking a break from this thread for a while. I’ll update after my next appointment with my Urologist.

Thanks for the help, Marinera.

Thanks to bulldoggrowth also.

I understand people are skeptical when they hear people have got their unit destroyed, because obviously there are tons of people who scare themselves into believing they have damanged their penis when they haven’t.
Also you think “how can this happen from 20-30 jelqs when other people can hang all day no problem?”

People are different, and sure some do scare themselves into believing all sorts of things….

But seriously when your penis change physical shape from a normal soft hanging normal flaccid to tight cold no circulation penis with balls shriveling up too like you were playing in the snow, there is something physical going on.
You can observe this infront of your own eyes, real time…
When your penis doesn’t respond to any sensation that you KNOW it responded to before, there is something wrong.
I can remember the exact sensation of say, my penis going inside a vagina, or being touched by my self/a girl, or how it just felt when I put my clothes on in the morning.
These feelings are gone - physically.

At first I didn’t even believe it, I was just like “uhm it’s probably nothing”, but then after 1 week without me even paying it any attention, it was too obvious to ignore…
So I’m actually the opposite of the usual case who was over worried, I wasn’t worried at all, because I thought no way in hell I could have damaged anything and didn’t think anymore about it for a few days…

Even if just 1 in 100 get damage (although I believe there is more, if you check out pegym.com you’ll see there are tons of more stories), that’s potentially 1 in 100 people that get their life destroyed beyond any repair.
That is serious, only 1 in 50 000 dies from taking ecstasy, just as a comparrison.

And as I’ve stated previously, I’m not against PE at all, just the fact there is almost NO warnings.
Sure it’s the general warning that most people skip because “it wont happen to me” or they just think “well fuck the warning if it was dangerous I’d know it”, yes this is how the majority of people think.

PE can definately enhance someones self esteem a little atleast, but is 1 inch worth risking your whole life?
That’s the important question here…

The fact that you guys try to downplay peoples stories here is actually quite disrespectful and disturbing.

Originally Posted by Longingforlong
Even if just 1 in 100 get damage (although I believe there is more, if you check out pegym.com you’ll see there are tons of more stories), that’s potentially 1 in 100 people that get their life destroyed beyond any repair.The fact that you guys try to downplay peoples stories here is actually quite disrespectful and disturbing.

I think many of us are not downplaying anybody’s stories. Many of us take them very seriously. Look at the view numbers of this thread and the flaccid penis thread. And yes, 1 in 100 (if permanent or serious injury) would be an unacceptable number, in my opinion. But here are the questions that come to my mind:

1. What % of people who come on these boards would have had some type of damage even if they didn’t do PEing or overdo it and then blame it on rational PEing (newbie routines, etc.)?
2. What % of people have mental disorders (e.g. anxiety, personality disorders-Histrionic, depression, etc.) that may make them more prone to exaggerate damage or feel damage when there might not be any real serious damage? (You know what the incidence of mental disorders is in the general population? My guess is the incidence on a dick-pulling forum is somewhat higher).
3. What % of people that come on these boards are trolls that just want to confuse everybody and generally enjoy seeing havoc?

Again, I’m not trying to be an arse and non-empathetic. I wish no harm on anybody and hope the best to willy wonka and anyone who has had any injury. And I have refrained from doing jelqs (to any significant extent) largely due to this thread. I’m not sure if I’m being overly-cautious for rational reasons or if it’s my anxiety kicking in. I guess it doesn’t matter.

Originally Posted by Longingforlong
The fact that you guys try to downplay peoples stories here is actually quite disrespectful and disturbing.

I suggest making your own thread rather than hijacking this one with your hypothetical statistics. I can appreciate that you may have a problem but ask yourself if you are helping anyone with your postings or perhaps contributing to your own and other’s hysteria even if you do have a problem.

Lets deal with and try to help one person at a time. I’m sure if you detail your experience properly, people will try to help as much as they can. You will find this forum full of helpful people. I look at this thread and I see the original poster repeatedly refuses to give full details or answer simple questions. E.g. “Is the medicine you were given having any result?”. “Are you still taking anti-depressants? If so what and how much?” What did the doctor say is the cause of your injury?”. Well to be fair there was an answer to the last one, apparently the doctor said “A compression injury” but it appears the poster wasn’t really too bothered exactly what this meant and he never asked his doctor to actually explain the cause of the injury to begin with. To my mind when you don’t get basic answers to basic questions and only sensationalist writing, it is difficult to help.

You’ll see I’ve been here a long time too, although now I have more time for it while before I didn’t. A few years ago there were no injury threads apart from the odd firm flacid and this was never regarded as serious. I had it a few times. I get it after I go on my bike without moving also. In the past there was no ‘hysteria’, a veinous leak, this didn’t exist before and now everybody has them! I also have lost sensation, it came back, I don’t really remember how or when but I just figured if you are expanding the size of your penis you will have less nerve endings on the same area, maybe the body compensates for this after a while. I have no idea, but end of the day I’m fine now, I never considered anything I had as an injury but I have always taken things very slowly. My dick is for life, if it grows by 1/2 mm a year that is still something because it’s going to be there a long time!!

One thing I wish the mods would do is try to get all the people that report an injury to do it separately rather than all piling in because we never learn if they get better or not. It seems like lots of people are saying I’m injured but then not coming back. Either they get better or not. I’m guessing they get better. But if they don’t re-post newbies and moderate-bies can get the wrong impression. Like Marinera says, after a while the hysteria dies down but to others just the size of a thread and the number of postings indicates something bad is up even though it may even have moved off topic completely many times.

And to be honest all of this has me worried as hell too. Yet I’ve never had problems. The only time in my life I couldn’t get it up was 100% psychological, I was convinced my dick wouldn’t be big enough because I was with a woman from a country famous for large penises and she was considerably older. She had the tightest pussy though when I did do the deed and I realise that it was completely stupid. It did show me, though, that psychology can really cause ‘physical’ symptoms.

Originally Posted by willy wonka
I’m taking a break from this thread for a while. I’ll update after my next appointment with my Urologist.

Thanks for the help, Marinera.

Thanks to bulldoggrowth also.


All the best, and yes update us thanks.

Don’t feel pissed off for doubts or critics, understand that we have to do many tasks at once here: help injured people (or at least try), understand if they are serious or not, avoid to start hypochondriasis epidemy begin etc. etc.. I’d say : burst the balls of your doctors, ask them if this or this other exam can be done, give them all the informations and ask all the possible questions, ask for clear explanations of what they think and what they want to do in your case.

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