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Jelqing has destroyed my life A warning.

Originally Posted by willy wonka
I don’t think it’s quite as simple as “you’re getting erections in your sleep but can’t keep hold of one whilst you’re awake, it must be a psychological issue.”

This injuries stuff scares me. Curious, are you taking any medications? Do you have any medical conditions? Did you have blood work done? Any history of anxiety/depression issues?


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

I disagree as well, at least in part.

I think being able to get any kind of erection in your sleep does not necessarily automatically translate to having an erection that is functional for masturbation or intercourse.

I know there have been some speculations at Thunder’s before about nocturnal erections being potentially physiologically different than conscious erections.

I can’t help but remember the days before Viagra when if someone had impotence, it was assigned to psychological causes. As it turns out, there were physiological causes that conventional medical science was not aware of at that time, but medical science turned it into the patient’s fault when the limits of medical science were reached.


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

“A useful and simple way to distinguish between physiological and psychological impotence is to determine whether the patient ever has an erection. If never, the problem is likely to be physiological; if sometimes (however rarely), it could be physiological or psychological. The current diagnostic and statistical manual of mental diseases (DSM-IV) has included a listing for impotence.
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Nocturnal penile tumescence (NPT)
It is normal for a man to have five to six erections during sleep, especially during rapid eye movement (REM). Their absence may indicate a problem with nerve function or blood supply in the penis. There are two methods for measuring changes in penile rigidity and circumference during nocturnal erection: snap gauge and strain gauge. A significant proportion of men who have no sexual dysfunction nonetheless do not have regular nocturnal erections. Thus presence of NPT tends to signify physically functional systems, but absence of NPT may be ambiguous and not rule out either cause”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erectile_dysfunction

If lower heart rate is the what allows nocturnal erections, than you should be able to have erections while awake, not they disappear as you open your eyes, like you posted - if you lie in bed and are relaxed, your heart rate is about the same than when sleeping - actually, if I recall correctly, you have nocturnal erections in the REM phases, and your heart rate isn’t necessarily that that low while you dream.

Or more succintly said, if your penis works, than it is not broken. And a psichologic factor doesn’t means ‘patient’s fault’ - not assigning faults here, just trying to understand the problem.

Anyway, we’ll know soon, since your urologist is going to do the required exams.

Shit. Sorry. I should have read the full thread. It was just too long. I apologize.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

There’s a big difference between:

Originally Posted by marinera
Sounds like a psyhoclogical factor is involved. Keep us updated.

and

Originally Posted by marinera

“A useful and simple way to distinguish between physiological and psychological impotence is to determine whether the patient ever has an erection. If never, the problem is likely to be physiological; if sometimes (however rarely), it could be physiological or psychological.”

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For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

willy wonka,

You might want to look at these:

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http://herkules.oulu.fi/isbn9514253868/html/index.html

Without proper evaluation, I don’t think it’s possible to know what’s causing your problem. If it is psychological (not saying that it is), I can tell you that performance anxiety can sometimes cause those symptoms, you are having.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Originally Posted by bohm
willy wonka,

You might want to look at these:

http://herkules.oulu.fi/isbn9514253868/html/x406.html

http://herkules.oulu.fi/isbn9514253868/html/index.html

Without proper evaluation, I don’t think it’s possible to know what’s causing your problem. If it is psychological (not saying that it is), I can tell you that performance anxiety can sometimes cause those symptoms, you are having.

You really haven’t read the entire thread have you?

Thanks for your advice but if you’d read my posts you’d see where you’re going wrong.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by bohm
This injuries stuff scares me.

But you’re going to continue jelqing until you get a permanant injury though, right?

How old are you?

Are you suggesting that there is an age-related component to the possibility of being injured by jelqing, Willy? Is that why you’re asking how old bohm is?


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
Are you suggesting that there is an age-related component to the possibility of being injured by jelqing, Willy?

No.

There’s possibly a “common sense” related issue though.

How anyone can continue with this exercise after seeing the several cases of catastrophic injuries, mine being one of them, on here is beyond me. Had I taken the time to google “jelqing” and seen all these cases I would never have done it. Never.

It’s beyond me how people continue to do it with the threat of permanant ED, permanant Hard Flaccid/shrunk penis and permanent numbness present!

My quality of life has been ruined by it, absolutely ruined. I can’t remember the last time I enjoyed anything. Now is the threat of that worth a fu**ing inch on your already healthy penis??

Originally Posted by willy wonka
But you’re going to continue jelqing until you get a permanant injury though, right?

I don’t do much jelqing (40 tops with mild tension). My routine is primarily manual stretching (with mild tension). In fact, I can’t and don’t stretch my penis past my NBPEL. I think I’m playing it safe but your post honestly does concern me. At times I think you may be suffering from severe anxiety/depression and at other times I think you are very genuinely honest and had some really bad luck and just trying to help others from messing up their units. So far all I’ve had is benefits and very minor side-effects (soreness, firmer flaccid when over-training, etc).


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Originally Posted by willy wonka
I don’t think it’s quite as simple as “you’re getting erections in your sleep but can’t keep hold of one whilst you’re awake, it must be a psychological issue.”

I think it is that simple.

If you get night time erections then your dick is fine. It functions correctly….period.

I didn’t read the whole thread. Have you been with a woman since all this started? If a hot chick sucks your cock, will it stay hard? Have you been desensitized by too much porn?

Originally Posted by curiousjo
I think it is that simple.

If you get night time erections then your dick is fine. It functions correctly….period.

I didn’t read the whole thread. Have you been with a woman since all this started? If a hot chick sucks your cock, will it stay hard? Have you been desensitized by too much porn?

Sorry, but you didn’t mention which med school you studied at to gain your MD Degree? And where did you do your 6 year residency in Urology?

Anyone is entitled to his opinion, degree or not, though. You wouldn’t get many replies exclusively from luminars. And he’s tryin to help I think.

Your MD didn’t said that your dick is broken either, if I’m not missing something.

Another question: you never had any lasting erection while awake since the day you jelqed? Again, sorry if you answered to this question before, I missed that in such case.

It is common knowledge that if one’s penis has night time erections, physiologically the penis is ok.

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