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Originally Posted by MiddleGirth

I’ve used Dmso to try to make the tunica more elastic, it works to some degree temporarily (which is amazing), and makes you have slightly better bloodflow. Though I’ve only done it several times. You have to be careful with that stuff, whatever it comes in contact with below a certain molecular weight, it’s gonna pull right into the tissue it’s in contact with. And you need the really pure stuff, not industrial DMSO. This is the stuff I have(not advertising).

Http://www.dmso.bz/pages/1/index.htm

Yeah, I ordered 99.9% pure cream. Considering how low the price is, there’s no reason to even bother buying industrial DMSO. I was thinking about just using soap and washing thoroughly before use. You think that’s enough preparation to use it safely?

Originally Posted by brazillionaire
Yeah, I ordered 99.9% pure cream. Considering how low the price is, there’s no reason to even bother buying industrial DMSO. I was thinking about just using soap and washing thoroughly before use. You think that’s enough preparation to use it safely?

Well, whatever is in the cream together with the dmso, is going into your dicks tissue/bloodstream, and though I don’t know a whole lot about it, DMSO is just a colorless watery liquid, so I don’t know how a cream could be 99% pure. Also, if the DMSO is in anything but glass, like plastic for instance, there will indefinitely be some plastic in the DMSO. And you want to get the soap off your hands real good. It may all sound overkill, but nothing known to man penetrates tissue or carries anything with it like DMSO. Not to be a downer but I would not use the cream.

I’m back. And changing my routine….AGAIN!

Since Christmas, I’ve experimented with clamping, cock ring clamping, dry jelqing and pumping. None of it gave me any gains. Sure there was always the temporary pump I got after clamping or when edging with a cockring on, but nothing was ever permanent.

I decided to go back to the drawing board. I needed a clean slate. I’ve been reading a lot of posts by xenolith, Shiver, MX, sparkyx, remek and a few others. The more and more I read, the more the idea of deconditioning breaks and strategic PE make sense. Basically, IPR. So, that’s what I’ve decided to do (but with a few added twists).

First, I’ve been reading a lot about heat in PE. If I could go back to the start of my PE career in March 2005, the one thing that I’ve constantly done half-assed was the warm up. I never really could get the wash cloth that hot and when I did, it never last long. 5 or 6 months ago I started warming up with a rice sock. It provided awesome dry heat that lasted a LOT longer than the washcloth ever could. Only problem is that the temperature you want it to stay at doesn’t last longer than 3-5 minutes and you would be forced to put it back into the microwave. During this PE cycle, I’m going to try out IR heat for the first time. I’m going to be warming up with a 150 watt IR bulb for about 15 minutes. I may even try experimenting with having the IR light on while I do my PE routine as well, but won’t have the light as close as when warming up. I was amazed to read all the benefits that not only heat could provide, but specifically the benefits of IR heat.

Second, I’ve also become a proponent of the theory that ejaculation affects gains. I know there is a lot of controversy around this topic, but for me personally, I believe that it does NOT affect gains, but rather the RATE of gains. I think that if one drastically reduces the amount of ejaculation during their PE cycle, the rate of gains will be a lot better. People may ask what evidence I have to support this - but I have none. So, believe what you want, but this is what I believe.

Third, I’ve been reading a lot about ADS and static stretching and how these methods are proving to be excellent ways to not only gain, but cement the gains as well. I’m going to be increasing my ADS time during this IPR cycle. I have a vacu-extender and plan on wearing it around my waist.

Fourth, I’ve also been reading a lot about supplements. I’ve tried Penis Pills in the past, but they didn’t work. I tried taking zinc, ZMA and L-Arginine and these supplements DID work for me. They helped increase cum load, but did not provided any gains. Lately, I’ve been reading a lot about Tongkat Ali. Aside from Viagara and Cialis, this seems to be the next best thing (in terms of natural supplements). It is boasted to increase testoterone production, increase libido, cum load and also help with muscle growth for bodybuilders. I’ve already ordered a 2 month cycle of TA and plan on supplementing with it during this IPR cycle.

This is what I did my last IPR routine: Warm up with rice sock for 10 mins, vacu hanged for 50 (increase 5 mins each PE workout) with 3 lbs followed by 100 wet jelqs and vacu ADSed for 4 hours. I did this 1 on/2 off for a total of 6 PE sessions, then ADSed for 2 weeks.

This time around, I don’t have as much privacy to hang, so I’m going to substitute it with a stretching. I was surprised and encouraged to see in a recent poll that stretching actually provided better length gains than hanging, almost in a 2:1 ratio. I am also going to be switching to jelqing first, and THEN stretching. I personally find that I get a WAY better stretch when I jelq first. If I stretch first, it’s almost impossible for me to get erect enough to have a decent jelq session.

I am currently on a decon break of 45 days. I plan on resuming PE on April 27. I will then ADS for about 3 weeks after my 18 day I-Phase. My next decon period will be 2 months.

Warm up (IR Lamp) for 15-20 minutes
Wet Jelqs 50 55 60 65 70 75
SU 1 1 1 1 1 1
L 1 1 1 1 1 1
R 1 1 1 1 1 1
D/D 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5
Ro 1 1 1 1 1 1
InV 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5

Stretches: SU (Straight Up), L (Left), R (Right), D/D (Dual/Double Fulcrum), Ro (Rotary Stretch), InV (Inverted V-Stretch). Jelqs are the actual number of jelqs. Stretch numbers are the stretch times in minutes.

Let’s get to 7” in 2007!!!

(Any questions/comments/suggestions are ALWAYS appreciated).


The aim of life is self-development. To realize one's nature perfectly - that is what each of us is here for.

~Oscar Wilde~


The aim of life is self-development. To realize one's nature perfectly - that is what each of us is here for.

~Oscar Wilde~

Hey Quik,

I agree with Jelk’s routine. Do clamped exercises(clamped jelqs?),kegels,edging,maybe hanging, maybe advanced length stretches.You ever clamp and then masterbate, while clamped? You get tons of expansion. Apparently you can gain a lot from edging/ballooning and clamping length wise! It should fix your gap, your gap may have stopped you from gaining? Search: tcg theory.

Pauly the last post was in 2007 :)

Originally Posted by kimc

Pauly the last post was in 2007 :)

His last login was yesterday though, so he’s still around.

This is by far the most depressing thread on Thunder’s.

Just do a newbie routine, with wet jelqs at a low erection level or get surgery, lol.

Have you ever done the newbie routine with varying intensity?

I hate this thread, I wish it never existed, also I wish you would just gain dammit!

Actually I bet this guy gained and just said he didn’t so he wouldn’t have to donate.

Follow the newbie routine.

Originally Posted by ThunderSS
Pauly at times you amaze me. And not in a good way either.

I’m sorry, sometimes my mind tells me, I’m going to be stuck with this rod size forever and I’m never going to have a family etc. Etc.

All these negative, devil’s advocate thoughts come too me. I just have too keep reminding myself I was way over training and I will probably gain with the newbie routine. I have to stay positive. I think I have moods, ups and downs I guess. I just want to see the slightest hint of growth and then I will throw you guys, some cash and be the happiest guy ever!

Yea, I gained what am I worried about?
I don’t think I was ever over the 5” EL barrier before PE, now I’m like 5.5 EL, so I have to calm down, again!
I just want a normal life, hot wife, great sex, kids etc. And I want it now, lol!

Originally Posted by pauly891
Hey Quik,
I agree with Jelk’s routine. Do clamped exercises(clamped jelqs?),kegels,edging,maybe hanging, maybe advanced length stretches.You ever clamp and then masterbate, while clamped? You get tons of expansion. Apparently you can gain a lot from edging/ballooning and clamping length wise! It should fix your gap, your gap may have stopped you from gaining? Search: tcg theory.

What the hell? Aside from the fact that the thread is old and dead, he was at 5 and wanted to reach 7 length. Advising him to jelq clamped (aside from extreme, considering he had never clamped) would likely ruin his length ambition, and and he only wanted to gain an inch in girth. Dangerous advice and totaling missing the point of his goals. If you don’t know what you’re doing, don’t give advice.

Originally Posted by LongVehicle
What the hell? Aside from the fact that the thread is old and dead, he was at 5 and wanted to reach 7 length. Advising him to jelq clamped (aside from extreme, considering he had never clamped) would likely ruin his length ambition, and and he only wanted to gain an inch in girth. Dangerous advice and totaling missing the point of his goals. If you don’t know what you’re doing, don’t give advice.

Yea your right. Sometimes I think, I have, the way for gains and I go out telling people to do it, turns out being bad advice, my bad.

I don’t think he gave the newbie routine a good proper go, with that 3 days on 1 off, he was slightly over training I think.

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