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What is the best way to reach this goal

What is the best way to reach this goal

Hey guys I signed up for this forum a while ago and forgot about, but now I am back and going to be working on PE during my break.

Anyways I’m at a starting 6” BPEL and 4.5” mid girth. My goal is not so much based on measurements but rather on what I can do to a woman.

Basically I want it to be big enough where I can dominate her easily through my size (gag, bottom out) but not so big where this happens all the time and gets in the way of sex.

What do you think would be the measurement for this type of goal? I’m thinking 8” Length and 5.5” girth, maybe 6”.

Also what routines do you recommend? I was thinking just working on the newbie routine for the 3 months. Have you guys bought DLD’s Matter of Size? What do you guys think of it? His exercises on his blog seem pretty cool but probably more appropriate for at least 3 months into PE.

Stick to the newbie routine until it no longer produces gains.


Then 01/15/08 EBPL: 6.25 EG 5.10 Now 10/05/09 EBPL 7.75 EG 5.25 Girth work for 103 days.

New Short Term Goal: EBPL 8.0 EG 5.5 Lifetime goal 9x6.5 PE log and journal

7.25” x 5.5” would be most women’s ideal. Any more than that can start to cause problems for some women. If you want more, go for it.

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Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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Originally Posted by WangChung4U
My goal is not so much based on measurements but rather on what I can do to a woman.

Basically I want it to be big enough where I can dominate her easily through my size (gag, bottom out) but not so big where this happens all the time and gets in the way of sex.

I’m offended by your post as a male. I can’t imagine how Thunder’s female members might feel. I think the more important question is “Why do you want to dominate women?” Frankly it sounds like the desire for power that a rapist seeks. It seems like you just don’t want ‘your’ experience to be tainted by being too large, but your partner should gag on it and that’s okay. Am I just getting old? Sorry to be overly critical but I was raised to respect women, not dominate them.

Good luck with your PE. I hope you use any gains for good and not evil.

I felt the same when I read the post. But then in fairness, I think there is something in many, if not most of us that does want to see them squirm just a little bit, now and again. No?

Originally Posted by dudleyvw
I’m offended by your post as a male. I can’t imagine how Thunder’s female members might feel. I think the more important question is “Why do you want to dominate women?” Frankly it sounds like the desire for power that a rapist seeks. It seems like you just don’t want ‘your’ experience to be tainted by being too large, but your partner should gag on it and that’s okay. Am I just getting old? Sorry to be overly critical but I was raised to respect women, not dominate them.

Good luck with your PE. I hope you use any gains for good and not evil.

Seems to me he just wants to provide her with an overwhelming experience, without bringing discomfort to her all the time. I think to be able to feel ‘dominated’ in this way is what many women are looking for as well.

Originally Posted by dudleyvw
I’m offended by your post as a male. I can’t imagine how Thunder’s female members might feel. I think the more important question is “Why do you want to dominate women?” Frankly it sounds like the desire for power that a rapist seeks. It seems like you just don’t want ‘your’ experience to be tainted by being too large, but your partner should gag on it and that’s okay. Am I just getting old? Sorry to be overly critical but I was raised to respect women, not dominate them.

Good luck with your PE. I hope you use any gains for good and not evil.

I expected some people might be offended by the ‘dominate’ thing but then I realized there’s no point in trying to sugar coating things. And now there might be some enlightening dialog shared here as a result. My experience has shown me that women love feeling a man has dominance over them, and this does not mean disrespect. As high and mighty as we like to think of ourselves the fact remains that we are also animals at a core like the rest of the inhabitants on this planet despite our relatively advanced cognitive ability. If you believe in the theory of evolution it shouldn’t be too hard to incorporate the idea that we have these animalistic drives, many of them unconscious, used by our ancestors to find the strongest mate to insure the survival of our genes. To women, a strong, dominant, alpha male was a big one on the list of ‘my kids are more likely to survive with his genes’ indicators.

It is not about disrespect but rather about sexual enhancement. As a matter of fact, if you love and respect women you will give them the sexual dominance they crave. We all want to increase our penis size in order to increase our shared sexual experience, when the fact of the matter is the quickest and most intense way of doing so is to increase our comfort with leading women sexually and incorporating dominance into our sex lives. In fact, if it isn’t there, you will begin to see them get all bitchy. You may think it’s because of your pecker size. It isn’t. When one incorporates a strong presence, an expectation to be regarded highly, a quiet subtle dominance (or not so subtle in bed), things start to become real interesting. I’m not good with words so I’ll just give you an example from my experience. Plus I like to boast :)

Things had been bad with this girl. I had started to become insecure with myself as this was my first girl I started to get close to and as a result I think she could sense this herself and began to develop a short temper as well as a dismissive/disrespectful attitude (aka she was being a bitch). I realized I had to suck things up and be a man; put myself out there, take the lead, and show more dominance. I come to her room with a “I am going to fuck the shit out of you” attitude. Again, things had been bad recently, so she just blew me off like she was not interested, disrespectfully, dismissively. Where most guys would have gotten insecure here or reacted to her behavior I just looked straight at her unshaken by it all. I come in closer to her, slowly and with conviction. I push her up against the wall, look in to her eyes, slowly inch my face closer to her, smell her neck like I’m evaluating her through it (again, is this logical? NO, but it taps at something deep without our sexual animalistic core aka crazy sexual response) look back in her eyes again. Disrespect is not the word, female oppression isn’t either. She ‘resisted’ for about 5 more seconds. 3 hours later she had come too many times to count and I three. Her roommate came in I told her to get her towel and to follow me. I guide her into the guy’s bathroom and fuck her silly in the shower. I end up pulling out and cumming on her face, honestly I think she got off on it more than I did.

Here was this girl who had been sort of a bitch to me for the last week, and now was smiling ear to ear, glowing, acting all giggly and girly and submissive. With cum decorations on her face. Immediately after this the first words out of her mouth was “Can I make you dinner? I want to cook for you”.

I felt like a king.

Dominance is the quickest way to get women really horny. While we’re waiting a year or two so that you’re pecker is big enough to garner a strong horny response from her, to want to jump on your shit with wanton desire, try being more dominant in bed and you will see a nasty, kinky, sexual submissive, longing to ‘serve’ you side of a woman you did not know existed. Why do you think women love jerks? Not to say you have to be a jerk, disrespect is not part of the equation (though from what I’ve heard some get off on this, but that’s just some people with some weird kink), but dominance is.

This may not justify my explicit statement of wanting to bottom out or make them gag. Like I mentioned before, I want it to be big enough were I can do that to her (if I press up a little deeper) but not where it’s so big that she’s gagging on it simply because it is impossible for a normal human being to swallow such a large object. I have also had women become very sexually aroused from making them gag, and other things that convey/display dominance. I hope that explains it.

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