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A bit nervous.

Hey all!

Thanks again.

Petitfaun, I really didn’t understand what firegoat does, at first I assumed he was a Urologist, but I was wrong.so now I’m assuming he’s a GP or someone in that area.

Like you said Petit, I’m sure the Urologist will try to discourage me off PE, I just hope he can identify the problem properly, and not recklessly.

I have also searched online for alternative consultations on ‘google.com’, so that I could have an extra doctor’s opinion.

I went on ‘www.onlineclinic.co.uk’ and filled in a consultation form, the website seems to be serious and the doctors on it are registered in GMC (General Medical Council). Currently my consultation form is put on hold due to “Condition Specific Answers Problem”, I think it’s because I was very descriptive to my problem.

Anyway if you guys think it’s a bad idea to consult via the website, let me know or if you have a certain experience regarding it.

Until then I will keep the thread updated, I think I will post after I have seen the Urologist or possibly before that, when the website docs give me a reply.

Take care everyone, and thanks!

Hi guys!

Well I’ve been at my urologist appointment today..

I told the urologist about the exercises, what the exercises are, how long I’ve been doing them, what the problem is, also told him about the curve in my erection.

Was a bit nervous to talk to him, because it was my 1st time at a urologist’s. They took my urine sample, height and weight.

I told the doc, I might have a ‘venous leak’ at the corpus spongiosum. He then examined my penis, a couple of gentle stretches and pulls, left right, and he also checked my CS and CC, all this in a flaccid state.

He then told me; “There is no problem at all, everything is completely normal. If I was to have a venous leak, I wouldn’t be able to achieve an erection at all, since I can achieve an erection venous leak is not the case he says, his advice is that I should completely stop exercises etc.”

I think this is a very typical answer that a urologist would give, how can he determine if everything is fine or not by touching my flaccid penis a few times?

I asked him if he would not carry out any tests at all to find out. He replied that there is no need for any tests and that if he thought there was a need he would carry those tests out and that I should leave the decisions to the experts despite he appreciates my knowledge.

However he also told me that, he would book an ultrasound test for me, just to give me mental satisfaction that everything is fine.

He repeated himself that I should stop the exercises, because I started them without any doctor supervision/referral and just voluntarily went on a website which is ‘bogus’. I then asked him if he claims nothing is wrong, then why has my corpus spongiosum not healed, what could the problem be, because it has already been 5 months now. The doc said that 5 months is not that much of a long period, and that I should give it a few more months and it will heal.

So to summarise this, he said I have no problem at all, and I need to give it a few more months. Then questions arose in my mind.. If I have to give it some more time, then that does mean that something is slightly wrong?

Any thoughts on this, considering all the things I posted before on this thread about my weak erections?

—Could someone also please tell me what is an ultrasound test? What are the procedures? Are there any needles involved? Is it carried out while the penis is erect? How long does it take? Painful? Would the problem be detected?—

I think that’s about it.. I’m still nervous and not satisfied with the urologist’s comments, because during erections my Corpus spongiosum is clearly soft which affects the hardness all round! It makes me disappointed thinking that could he have not detected my problem, because he just examined it in a flaccid state?

Will this ever heal, I want my proper erections back.

Thanks!

Regards,
Max

An ultrasound is a non-invasive procedure whereby they use sound to take a picture of internal workings in the human body.

It is very safe. Another use of ultrasound is to monitor the development of children in the womb during pregnancy.

I’m glad he told you you are normal. It’s what I’ve suspected all along.

Urologists don’t typically support PE. No surprise there. I wouldn’t worry about that.

Continue to rest. Use heat the way I told you and let the doctor do his tests.

In a few months maybe we can talk about resuming any PE activities. For now don’t worry about that. Focus your energy on getting back to normal.

And you will get back to normal. :)


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Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
An ultrasound is a non-invasive procedure whereby they use sound to take a picture of interal workings in the human body.

It is very safe. Another use of ultrasound is to monitor the development of children in the womb during pregnancy.

I’m glad he told you you are normal. It’s what I’ve suspected all along.

Urologists don’t typically support PE. No surprise there. I wouldn’t worry about that.

Continue to rest. Use heat the way I told you and let the doctor do his tests.

In a few months maybe we can talk about resuming any PE activities. For now don’t worry about that. Focus your energy on getting back to normal.

And you will get back to normal. :)


Good advice!

Hey max18, glad you’ve reported back good to know whats going on. I’ve had an ongoing injury also waiting to see my urologist (hopefully he will be more help) at beginning of next year, and will let people know whats happening with me on my injury thread to try an educate other people with similar symptons.

You might find this site use full, just describes different erectile dysfunction diagnoses.

Yes.

But don’t reach for erection medication unless the urologist says it’s okay. :leftie:


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Yeah Mr.happy is right,

But the site isnt just about vardenafil. It also gives brief descriptions of different clinical testing used to diagnose ED, which he was asking about.:)

Originally Posted by RodneysRocket who is smart and helpful
It also gives brief descriptions of different clinical testing used to diagnose ED, which he was asking about.


A good post, to be sure.

Valuable information is…well, valuable. (:


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Originally Posted by Max18

I think that’s about it.. I’m still nervous and not satisfied with the urologist’s comments, because during erections my Corpus spongiosum is clearly soft which affects the hardness all round!

It’s about what I expected too.

As I have mentioned before (perhaps I wasn’t clear or specific enough?), your CS will not be anything like as as hard as your CC’s. It is not supposed to be. No one’s is. (Physiologically it’s not designed to be). For many guys it is quite soft; there have been lots of posts over the years here about the penis head being soft - the glans is just the end part of the CS. In a lot of guys it only gets hard(er) at the very point of orgasm, and for some it doesn’t get all that firm then. How is your glans?

The ultrasound is completely safe and pain-free. It will show how the blood is flowing within the penis, and if there is any leakage anywhere (they will be particularly concerned with the valves at the base of your penis, so if you feel the problem/discomfort is elsewhere, point it out to them and ask that they focus on that area - they will be happy to do so).

Keep us informed of how things go. :)


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Thanks for your attention friends! Would like to let you know guys how grateful I am for your help.

Originally Posted by firegoat
It’s about what I expected too.

As I have mentioned before (perhaps I wasn’t clear or specific enough?), your CS will not be anything like as as hard as your CC’s. It is not supposed to be. No one’s is. (Physiologically it’s not designed to be). For many guys it is quite soft;

I know what you are trying to say firegoat, but it was harder before I “over-trained”. That’s how I notice the difference between before and after. As well as the weaker erection.



These questions may appear silly to you guys and I don’t mean to annoy you guys with my silly questions, but I’m going to ask them, because it was my 1st time at a urologists.

1) Could the urologist not have detected my problem, because it wasn’t a thorough enough examination, because he just examined it with his bare hands in it’s flaccid state?

2) Will the ultrasound test detect the problem if there is any?

3) If the docs think nothing is wrong with me, and I need a few more months to heal completely, what could be wrong? Why are my erections weaker?

4) Is ultrasound carried out while the penis is erect? So that the problem is tackled directly..



I’m resting, and not thinking of the erections much so that I don’t interfere with the healing. I will apply a hot wrap every day for 10min, to speed up the process.

Thanks again!

Regards,
Max

Just my two cents. First off I’m really sorry for your problem and none of us can know exactly what you are experincing. But I honestly believe that if something really serious he probably would be able to tell if your penis is flacid or stiff. Then u get into the situation that whatever is wrong, is there anything that can really help more than just rest and letting your unit heal. I don’t really have the answer but I would think that short of surgery I’m not really sure what could be done to ‘fix’ the problem. I’d watch for any sort of deteriorating condition. If it feels like things are getting worse I’d be back in a flash and get the ultrasound. If it stays about the same then give it a few months and re-evaluate. Just my uneducated layman opinion.

Wish u the best of luck.


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Hey Tryingtobebig, have a look at the Forum Guidelines before you post again.

Surgery is not going to be necessary; I’d bet my life on it. It’s a little silly to bring that up, especially in light of the fact that the doctor gave him a clean bill of health.

Max18 be sure to post your experience with the ultrasound. I’m curious to know how that works.

Keep up the heat. :up:


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Originally Posted by Max18

These questions may appear silly to you guys and I don’t mean to annoy you guys with my silly questions, but I’m going to ask them, because it was my 1st time at a urologists.

1) Could the urologist not have detected my problem, because it wasn’t a thorough enough examination, because he just examined it with his bare hands in it’s flaccid state?

2) Will the ultrasound test detect the problem if there is any?

3) If the docs think nothing is wrong with me, and I need a few more months to heal completely, what could be wrong? Why are my erections weaker?

4) Is ultrasound carried out while the penis is erect? So that the problem is tackled directly..

There are no such things as silly questions. And those are all well thought out questions anyway. :)

1) I hope they were gloved hands not bare hands :) … Because of the time scale involved since the injury, the ‘history’ (the details of when, how, progression of symptoms in the time immediately after injury and since then) will have been more important to the urologist than the examination. However, he will have examined many thousands of penises. The common misconception is that the urologist will be feeling for something that is ‘wrong’ - in fact what he is looking for is anything that doesn’t feel ‘right’ and having examined thousands of penises, he will know exactly what ‘normal’ feels like and is feeling for any deviation from that state.

To pick up any problems of ‘leakage’ would not be possible from examining a flaccid penis.

2) Because the penis is a superficial organ, contains no bone, and only has a small required depth of penetration by the ultrasound waves, it is the ideal structure to be examined by ultrasound. Although the images you see may not look very clear to you, they will be very easy to interpret by the radiologist, or by the urologist if he has been trained to read ultrasound images (most are, but not all).

If there is any scar tissue or venous leakage, the ultrasound will pick it up.

3) There are dozens of reasons for weaker erections; many people will experience a considerable drop in average erectile strength from their late teens to early 20’s, just from hormones changing.

Stress, poorer diet, alcohol, any other recreational drugs, decrease in physical exercise or excess of physical exercise, side effects from medications, lack of sleep, excess porn…. or a combination of those. There are many others also, but they are the common ones.

4) Yes, your penis will be erect for the ultrasound tests. It will be a chemically induced erection (injection). They will then cover your penis in a gel (very like KY) and pass an ultrasound wand over your penis. It will show a live image on the screen. Very often the images are recorded for permanent record or so they can be checked by a radiologist if one is not present at the time of imaging.

Generally, urologists are concerned with erectile dysfunction at the level where it precludes penetration for intercourse. Because you are concerned about the health of your penis and have a referral for ultrasound, you are now ‘in the system’. Because of the culture of medical malpractice claims, you will not be discharged until they are absolutely sure that there is nothing ‘wrong’ with your penis, from a medical perspective.

Thanks for your reporting of your experiences so far. This is what makes Thunder’s Place the great site it is.


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This is a good article on penile ultrasound diagnosis (bottom of the page), although from brief reading of the attached case study it sounds like this chaps injury was quite severe.

http://semj.sum … l2008/86063.htm


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All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

Thanks for the reply, support and knowledge!

I am now just waiting for my ultrasound test appointment confirmation letter, which I should receive hopefully this week.

Hoping it all heals and my erections come back in the next 2 months or so.

Hot wraps, and good sleep should speed up hopefully..

I am out of questions for the moment, so I will post back with more questions here, or updates on my appointment in the next few days.

Take care!

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