Learned a lot from this thread. Thanks TPers.
Learned a lot from this thread. Thanks TPers.
Hi everyone I’m new here and hope I can learn and gain a lot, so far I’m doing the lazy routine, using bath mate for 15 minutes daily and phallosan forte every other day for as long as I can, but usually not more than 6 hours.
My question is if I have anything wrong because it’s not that easy to have an erection prior to bath mate use, and I don’t have that rock hard erection during the night although I do have semi erections every night. But it’s easy for me to have a 100% erection prior to sex.
Is that ok or should I slow down a Lillie bit? I don’t really think I’m overtraining, actually I think I’m still adapting my penis.
Take it slow.
You are reporting signs of overtraining.
You should have started with manuals for 6 months, newbie routine and after 6 months proceed to devices.
Since you have started like that, either put the pumps etc away for a while and do it right after taking a week completely off, or reduce the amount of time in what you are doing now.
BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5
I have reached my goal. At least for now.
I think there are two basic modes of increasing the size of your dick.
First I believe there is frank stretching of the tissues, and this usually involves forces in the higher end of what we use in PE. In this catagory CAN be hanging and clamping. This approach also usually causes fairly rapid tissue toughening, then requires decon breaks.
Second, there are approaches that stimulate what appears to be true growth of tissue. This usually is lower forces, with more time and at a more frequent rate. This seems to allow a longer period of growth, with a much lower rate of injuries.
My comments address that some of the higher force techniques require more time off to return to high EQ. That said, I must say I am NOT expert in that area, but if I remember correctly, even heavy hangers and clampers rarely went more than a day away from great EQ…but I can’t say that for sure.
I remember reading (sorry I don’t recall off the top of my head) a guy who wanted to repeat a clamping experiment where the author claimed amazing gains. It required daily, heavy clamping. What amazed me is that he was reporting ROCK hard daily erections. If I was to do the same routine, I wouldn’t get ANY wood for about 3 days.
So, even with the high force routines, those that achieved success were also reporting either constant great EQ, or only were about a day of rest away from it.
So really, different PE methods seem to effect everyone is slightly or greatly different ways. Some may find low vacuum pumping is very gentle on their dicks, where others may find that that same vacuum level beats the crap out of them.
That is one of the reasons I have written on the Physiologic approach (PI and EQ), because it allows you to access how it is effecting YOU!
It doesn’t matter if 10,000 guys got great results with a certain approach, it may be way too much for you! If you have no way to determine the effect its having on you, then its just blinding groping in the dark…and your chances of success go way down.
I personally find edging will kick my ass if I go more than 15 minutes…so really, (unfortunately) I have to cut all that out for me to have great EQ and the possibility to gain. It took me a long time to realize this.
What things like edging do to me, is give the stress of a heavy PE workout, but not the potential for any gains. Not everyone is effected that way though, some can edge all day and not stress their dicks at all, some will ruin their progress for the day with even 5 minutes of edging.
If you learn to read your PIs, and keep high EQ, it either will put you IN the growth zone, or damn close to it so its only a small adjustment to begin to get gains.
I stumbled upon PE 6 weeks ago. I’m in my 40s and was headed toward ED. Basically I was only getting erections when it was time for sex and even then probably 90%. My wife suggested a pump when her friend and husband got one for sex, so she obviously noticed. So I bought a bath mate and started using it, then added basic stretching and jelqs.
I have read a lot, and love the commercial free aspect of the site.
PE has immediately helped my EQ, but it’s still inconsistent, but getting better. Since I have never really gotten to great EQ, can somebody weigh in on whether I could be over training, getting used to it or what. It’s not like I have declining EQ but “not quite there yet” EQ
I do think have grown a little. BPEL is 1/4 longer or I’m harder, one of the two. I didn’t measure flaccid but it looks bigger too.
Thanks for any help.
There are many factors that play a part in EQ! The bathmate is difficult to use with precision so you may be doing too much with it.
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