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The Captn's Wench: PE Device

Has any one else had to go to 2 cable clamps? I have found that 2 are needed to keep things from sliding. I am hanging 7.5 lbs.

I am having zero problems at 16lbs with one cable clamp, but every dick is different.

I started hanging 7.5lbs the other night. No, it is fine with only 1 clamp for me. You might want to re-evaluate your clamp clicks and wrapping.

I also hang 7.5lbs with only one clamp. I find that the type of wrap and the distance back from the head are important factros to keep the wench from sliding off.


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An alternative.

Finally I may have something to contribute to this fine forum. Haven’t read where anyone else has thought of this so here you go:

I have taken 2 pe devices making one adjustment to the wench.
The result is I don’t have to wrap.

The adjustment to the wench is to add “rough” hook type velcro to BOTH sides of the gripper. My grippers are pieces of a wood ruler but I imagine should work for the origianl grippers too.

Instead of using the 10” peice of velcro of the wench‚ I attach the grippers to my TheraP wrist wrap.

Procedure
1. Wrap the wrist wrap once around the penis fairly snug.
2. Now place the grippers onto the wrist wrap at each side of the penis.
3 Now add the nylon belt strap to the exposed side of the grippers.
4. Finish wrapping wrist wrap around everything snuggly.
5 Add cable clamp in same manner as for wench.

For me this device ends up less bulky and I can click up to 4 clicks on clamp instead of the normal 3 on the original wench. The hang feels the same‚ only I dont have to wrap. There may be an added benefit of the magnets?

Don’t know if the life of wrist wrap will last as long as the original wench velcro but I am happy with how it feels. I hang 10 lbs for 20 min . 2 times a day. 2 days on 1 day off.

I joined last March/April? at 5 7/8 BPEL and 4 7/8 EG.
Exercised regularly for several months‚ stopped and picked it up again in January. Current measurements are 6 3/4 BPEL and 5 1/8 EG. My FSL is 7 3/8 so I am pleased with my progress. My erections are rock hard!!!! Thanks to all the great guys on this forum.

jiml,
Glad to see that this works for you. The quest for a wrap-free hang is a noble one - and even though others hang sans wrap I have personally never found that happy place.
The one word of caution I have for anyone trying this the way jiml has suggested is that the setup will not afford you the same relative safety that the Wench does. Due to the rigidity of the Velcro band the dorsal region of the shaft is kept safe from the full impact of the clamp when it is tightened down. I have come to call this feature the “Dorsal Bridge” on the Wench and have pretty strong reservations about hanging weight using a device that does not feature it. Any good hanger always makes room for this delicate region of the shaft.
Nerve damage and circulation to the glans is severely risked whenever a full encompassing of the shaft is employed - it essentially amounts to a classic “loop” or “noose” hanger with the addition of grippers. It seems to work for jiml which is great, but I recommend proceeding with great caution. Please, be very careful.

-Cap

Originally Posted by CaptnHook
Due to the rigidity of the Velcro band the dorsal region of the shaft is kept safe from the full impact of the clamp when it is tightened down. I have come to call this feature the “Dorsal Bridge” on the Wench and have pretty strong reservations about hanging weight using a device that does not feature it. Any good hanger always makes room for this delicate region of the shaft.
Nerve damage and circulation to the glans is severely risked whenever a full encompassing of the shaft is employed - it essentially amounts to a classic “loop” or “noose” hanger with the addition of grippers. It seems to work for jiml which is great, but I recommend proceeding with great caution. Please, be very careful.

-Cap

Cap,

When I use my wench, the cable clamp collapses this dorsal bridge downward to the top of my penis, due to the lateral compression forces of the clamp. I’m not sure how you or others use the clamp without it collapsing this bridge. The collapsed bridge ends up touching my wrapping - I’m not sure how much pressure it’s exerting there.

In fact, one can argue that having no velcro in there allows more space for the dorsal surface of the penis, as long as the cable clamp doesn’t touch it. After all, it is the same cable clamp, same penis, same wrap, same grippers, just no velcro in that space.


Starting: 5 BPEL x 4.5 EG on 4/19/03

Latest: 6 BPEL x 5 EG on 2/17/04

Goal: 7 BPEL x 6 EG

CaptainHook‚

Maybe because I am using wood rather than the floor grippers my set up is more rigid and I am not experiencing any pressure on the dorsal nerve (the top and bottom of the penis?) No circulation problem either. Thank you for posting the caution..I would hate to be the cause of anyone injuring themselves. It does work great for me at 10 lbs.

>When I use my wench, the cable clamp collapses this dorsal bridge downward to the top of my penis, due to the lateral compression forces of the clamp. I’m not sure how you or others use the clamp without it collapsing this bridge. The collapsed bridge ends up touching my wrapping - I’m not sure how much pressure it’s exerting there.<

Chicken,
Let me be clear so there is no further misunderstanding - This feature of your Wench is not a collapsing of the bride, it is in fact the bridge itself. The lateral force of the clamp creates a distortion of the Velcro that occupies the space between the grippers lateraly as well as between the dorsal region and the clamp. Some will see this as a series of waves in the material, others will see it as one bowing shape. The size and shape of the bridge can be altered depending upon the distance one places between the grippers: The closer one places the grippers to each other the more space on top, hence more material on top - More distance between the grippers will result in an opposite effect.
You have undoubtedly by now realized that the pressure from the clamp is minimal/negligable due to this bridge - that is its purpose.
It is very important that this bridge always exist between the clamp and the dorsal region.

>In fact, one can argue that having no velcro in there allows more space for the dorsal surface of the penis, as long as the cable clamp doesn’t touch it. <

I think that argument is settled when you consider that yes, the clamp would now have an opportunity to impact the dorsal region. With the Wench, this is not the case.

>After all, it is the same cable clamp, same penis, same wrap, same grippers, just no velcro in that space.<

See above - and: The Velcro band serves many purposes. For one, it allows the user to accurately place the grippers in a position that best suits the shape and size of their penis. Once happy with their settings they can be assured that the next time they use the Wench - be it ten minutes or ten weeks later - the settings will be exactly as they left them.

Secondly, the minimal contact the Wench makes with the full circumference of the shaft/wrap serves to lessen the chance of slippage. You can find this benefit with Bib’s hangers as well. What this all does is completely eliminate the “teetering” effect one can experience with other hangers - as in those that provide strictly side clamping/compression of the shaft.
Higher angles such as OTL and OTS are easiest to achieve using a device such as the Wench or a Bib.

Thirdly, I am often surprised by how often the Wench as a device is relegated to the limited confines of the hanger category. You yourself use the Wench as a BTC ADS and must know that the elimination of an outer band of material would make that a challenging proposition to say the least.
Anybody using their Wench as a manual stretcher can also speak to the versatility the Wench provides.

My whole purpose for designing the Wench was a desire to simulate the strong yet forgiving grip of the human hand - not two fingers pinching the sides of the shaft.To take two flat peices of material and clamp them to the sides of the shaft is a pretty accurate description of Tom Hubbards AFB - a great hanger, but not an ideal way to ADS or manual stretch.

Originally Posted by jiml
CaptainHook‚
Maybe because I am using wood rather than the floor grippers my set up is more rigid and I am not experiencing any pressure on the dorsal nerve (the top and bottom of the penis?) No circulation problem either. Thank you for posting the caution..I would hate to be the cause of anyone injuring themselves. It does work great for me at 10 lbs.


jiml,
Plenty of people use wood and even harder materials as grippers. In fact, there is a whole thread dedicated to Alternative Materials people can use in place of the Waxman product. Like I said, if your setup works for you, great, I am genuinly happy for you. But what has to be kept in mind is that penises vary a great deal in shape and size from man to man - and where 1” wide grippers might provide clearance of your dorsal region they might not for the next guy. That is the main reason for my caution.

The noose effect I spoke of has to do with when you initially wrap your shaft with the Thera-P wrist band. Normaly, when somebody wraps and then attaches a hanger the two materials remain independant of each other. As you describe it, your wrap is your hanger; the weight is attached to the entire setup. That there are grippers involved does little to diminish the fact that the initial loop/noose will be taking the same weight as the rest of the setup.

Above all, I express caution because I have seen enough already to know that good people do bad things to their units; for some guys common sense goes right out the window when the prospect of a big cock seems possible.
You have a cool idea and I think you should pursue ways of making it more universally accessable and safe - but I prefer to keep the Wench thread dedicated to a device and concept that I know already covers that criteria.

Thanks Jim
-Cap

Originally Posted by CaptnHook
Secondly, the minimal contact the Wench makes with the full circumference of the shaft/wrap serves to lessen the chance of slippage. You can find this benefit with Bib’s hangers as well. What this all does is completely eliminate the “teetering” effect one can experience with other hangers - as in those that provide strictly side clamping/compression of the shaft.
Higher angles such as OTL and OTS are easiest to achieve using a device such as the Wench or a Bib.

Thirdly, I am often surprised by how often the Wench as a device is relegated to the limited confines of the hanger category. You yourself use the Wench as a BTC ADS and must know that the elimination of an outer band of material would make that a challenging proposition to say the least.
Anybody using their Wench as a manual stretcher can also speak to the versatility the Wench provides.

The contact with the full circumference of the shaft has a delicate balance between causing too much pressure on the dorsal nerve or not enough pressure to cling onto the wrap to prevent slippage. Yes, I’m sure this can be achieved.

I’m not sure what you mean by a teetering effect unless you define it as not placing it on accurately - meaning a side-clamping-only hanger that was not placed on exactly laterally but off slightly either clockwise or counterclockwise - which would then appear when hanging as the whole unit twisted to one side. This is no big deal because the hanger can just be adjusted to the opposite way of the tilt. If you mean it as the hanger actually twists around the shaft as it is hanging, well that depends on the gripping qualities of the side-clamping-only hanger itself and how much leverage control the weight places on the top pillars of the hanger - meaning if you made a side-clamping-only hanger with pillars too long, this twisting around the shaft can happen BUT not every side-clamping-only hanger is going to rotate around the penis shaft especially if it significantly flattens the shaft vertically.

The wench does look like a great OTS hanger, and I’m currently wearing it as a BTC ADS device. I don’t think there is a stronger yet safer pulling ADS device around.


Starting: 5 BPEL x 4.5 EG on 4/19/03

Latest: 6 BPEL x 5 EG on 2/17/04

Goal: 7 BPEL x 6 EG

Originally Posted by chickenchoker
The contact with the full circumference of the shaft has a delicate balance between causing too much pressure on the dorsal nerve or not enough pressure to cling onto the wrap to prevent slippage. Yes, I’m sure this can be achieved.

Yes. Short of someone having an amazing amount of flaccid girth it would be very hard to negatively impact the dorsal region with the Wench using the dimensions and instructions as I have laid them out here. However, should that be the case it is easy enough to alter the dimensions - essentially scaling them up, ie. wider grippers, large clamp - to avoid this. The basic concept will remain intact and the effect/results the same. I know plenty of people who already do this.
Calling this a delicate balance is a bit disingenuous. If a guy uses the Wench as presented here the odds are greatly in favor of him experiencing a safe hang/manual/ADS.

Originally Posted by chickenchoker
I’m not sure what you mean by a teetering effect unless you define it as not placing it on accurately - meaning a side-clamping-only hanger that was not placed on exactly laterally but off slightly either clockwise or counterclockwise - which would then appear when hanging as the whole unit twisted to one side. This is no big deal because the hanger can just be adjusted to the opposite way of the tilt. If you mean it as the hanger actually twists around the shaft as it is hanging, well that depends on the gripping qualities of the side-clamping-only hanger itself and how much leverage control the weight places on the top pillars of the hanger - meaning if you made a side-clamping-only hanger with pillars too long, this twisting around the shaft can happen BUT not every side-clamping-only hanger is going to rotate around the penis shaft especially if it significantly flattens the shaft vertically.

No, I wasn’t referring to any of the above issues with respect to side-clamping-only devices though, I agree they are matters to be dealt with. The “teetering” effect I noted is caused largely by the fact that such hangers leave open space at the top and bottom of the shaft and this lack of stabilization can sometimes result in a “top-heavy” or a “bottom heavy” distribution of weight. It is easiest to describe by thinking of a see-saw, with the hanger being the plank and the shaft being the axis - depending upon how the device is initially attached and where the weight is placed on the loop the angle of the hanger as well as the shaft can be affected. It is easy enough to remedy, but it is an issue that is nonexistant with the Wench, which makes it ideal for upper angles, manual stretching, and ADS - as well as the more common lower angle hanging.

I see you mention the word “pillars” which says to me that you are thinking in context of your latest hanger (which I think is an exceptional idea, btw). As of this writing I cannot speak to whether this teetering effect exists there because I have not had the chance to try it yet. But rest assured that once I do I will promptly post my honest opinion about the entire experience; from constructing it to using it.

Thanks CC
-Cap

Since I was headed to wal-mart, I decided to make a wench last night. I found everything I needed except the waxman grippers, but I used mousepad instead. Walmart did actually carry the waxman grippers, but they were out of the flat kind.

I was originally just going to use it as a manual stretcher since I seem to have a hard time gripping, but I could not resist the hanging urge I had…

I hooked up the equivalent of 3 pounds in liquid and hung for a ten minute set. Adjusted and then hung for 20. It felt awesome! Thanks Cap! You just saved me quite a bit of loot!

Hey Capt Hook. Great hanger. I just bought all the supplies and about to assemble them. But I have one question: Where is the S-hook that we hang the weights off of? Don’t you need that?

-Alrdybig

I use a carribeener (sp?).

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