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Decon Breaks II: When do we need physically to do them?

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Decon Breaks II: When do we need physically to do them?

Hi again, TG here. We’re starting where we left off in Deconditioning (decon) Breaks: How and Why? and elaborating on when exactly you’ll want to do them. Let’s get back to it.

3. When do I need to do a decon break? How long do I have to do it?

Honestly, the reasons for “when” range with your own experience with PE. When I’m coaching, it’s often that I find that guys will do their routines into a rut. They’ll stall their own gains. They’ll get hurt. They’ll get frustrated. Then they’ll PM me after they’ve already gone through the hard steps with no help. (Which while it makes for a funny story just makes it harder to pick up the pieces *laughs*.) Each of those phases basically looks like what I have listed below:

Injury- Basically, you got hurt. Most of the injuries I’ve seen and heard of in PE can be rested through. That being said, some will take you out of commission a day, a week…a month or several months. Full recovery is integral to both successful gains and a functional penis. Do not put successful gains over the function of your penis. It’s a poor choice that will not be one you can easily fix. Decon will start to happen after a week or so, definitely a factor after a month or more when you make your return to PE. While recovering from an injury may not have your intention to decon you need to factor that in while you are away from Penis Enlargement so that your return doesn’t lead to another injury simply because you forgot that you are less physically able to withstand the same amount of trauma and stimuli that you were using when you stopped PE. If you were doing a heavy or high intensity routine when you took a month off, ease back into it or you’ll take time off because you’re hurt.

Basically, the length of this decon period will vary on having fully recovered. We here at Thunder’s advertise the return of nocturnal erections, morning wood, no tingly sensations, no redness or bleeding, no soreness and easily achievable (as is your normal) erections. That amount of time in my opinion is going to be a 2 week minimum but no maximum. Do not rush it. That is the main rule. Unless you like injury decon. In that case, knock yourself out. *chuckles*

Stalled gains/Plateaus- This is the second most common reason to decondition. You were chugging along, may have seen some gains from 1/8” on up to the legendary 1”+ range…now you’ve been at it 3 months and you’re not sure if you’re at the same place, backsliding or just burning the ruler in half with the heat from squinting at it like Superman demanding answers. The good news is…stalled gains means you have a good reason to rest. The bad news means you’ll probably be off for a while as you try to regroup.

I define “regroup” here as the period in time you are taking off and doing research and asking questions here on Thunder’s and elsewhere about methods and devices you haven’t tried so you can chart your next action in Penis Enlargement to reach your goals. Regrouping is important because often, gaining the best means having the most varied history of things you’ve tried to find the best tools for you to reach your goals. Personally, I’ve spent over $8000 on devices and services in the last 7 years and that’s only gotten higher and while I have a lot of devices I’m getting rid of and gathering dust…I found a few things that were worth their weight in gold to me (The pun is certainly not lost on me or my avatar. *smirks*) at least for a while and that is really what counted.

Stalled gains and Plateaus are tricky because it’s sometimes unclear as to why they stall. Minor injury that you can’t feel is common and until it flares up and becomes painful or debilitating we work through it. Simply exhausting your current method is VERY common and this is the main reason I personally find for gains to stall and the best reason to decon. If you are on a budget or you only like one device or type of exercise I recommend frequent decon. Why?

Using one exercise/device means you are only having one type of trauma to respond to. So your body will be constantly evolving to stop it from being effective. Trauma is still an injury and that is something the body simply doesn’t like. The simple statement is your penis does not approve of PE.

So you will have a limited window in which your one device or exercise will be effective. Then, you have to take a long break so that your body has stopped in the cycle to defeat your method. If your body hasn’t been fighting your ability to use the exercise or device in a couple months, that means that exercise and device will be effective again for a while. Your penis will toughen along the typical trauma pattern your exercise/device will create in your penis. So resting for a long period will lower your penis’ defenses to that stimuli and give it a chance to create new trauma and possibly new gains. The definition of a “limited” window will vary from person to person. Some folks only see usefulness from 2 to 4 weeks of a particular method. Some up to 6 months or more. Eventually, gains taper off and after they taper off it’s better to rest than to fight the body on the topic. As when you’re fully rested and come back, your penis is not ready to fend off this fresh assault and you’ll get more accomplished towards your goals.

Also, please be aware that stalled gains can become losses if you ramp up your routine as a response to gains stopping in order to break through a plateau.

Your penis basically does not like being tugged on (or whatever other trauma you’re using) in short, so it may start retracting or your erection quality may lower and this will lessen your size and put a real damper on your day for some time to come. I cover this many times when people send me messages and it bears stating here as well.

The natural place that decon has in the order of things is to end a cycle simply to refresh your routine and give your body an extended chance to heal for a week or so usually. The length of deconditioning for ending a cycle depends on how long you’ve been at PE, what type of exercise/device you were using, and how long you were at this particular method for this series in time. Some examples for basic cycle ending is a 6 weeks on, 1 week off cycle and after several cycles of 6 weeks instead of taking 1 week off you take 1 month off.

These same guidelines are good for stalled gains as well in the same time-frames though being a bit more generous with the time off you take may be necessary the further along in PE that you’ve come and the longer you’ve been at it.

I recommend the 6 weeks on, 1 week off series for most manual exercises and stretch oriented routines.

I recommend 6 weeks on, 2 weeks off for things like pumping and clamping. Though you may need more off time than 2 weeks if you have a lot of experience or have been doing exceptionally heavy sets or high intensity or durations.

In this context, really you’ll know your body best. These are just guidelines for cycling normally or if you’re seeing stalled gains. However, returning too soon will leave you where you left off. That usually will defeat the purpose of having rested at all.

Have you ever just known you needed to take a long break because your penis was worn out? Has it been something you’ve considered but never done? Why or why not?

Further reading:

Decon Breaks III: What about your life?


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.


Last edited by thoughtfulgold : 02-22-2017 at . Reason: added link

Should you Decon from using an extender?

Originally Posted by Munky9mm
Should you Decon from using an extender?

YES. Any device or exercise you do regularly will need you to take a break from it.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

TG,

Your post is timely in my case. I got into work this morning, went through my excel log and calculated I have been going strong for six weeks straight averaging a little more than two rest days per week. I coincidentally highlighted the next two weeks and noted them as a decon break.

No injury, my penis just seemed to speak to me today.

Reading your post tonight reinforced my decision and as always, thanks for passing the knowledge!

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
TG,

Your post is timely in my case. I got into work this morning, went through my excel log and calculated I have been going strong for six weeks straight averaging a little more than two rest days per week. I coincidentally highlighted the next two weeks and noted them as a decon break.

No injury, my penis just seemed to speak to me today.

Reading your post tonight reinforced my decision and as always, thanks for passing the knowledge!

I’m glad to be of service. Keeping track matters. I’m not exactly a calendar or running excel but…a break after running regular, steady and a bit hard is good. That’s the takeaway, as I’m sure you know.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
I’m glad to be of service. Keeping track matters. I’m not exactly a calendar or running excel but…a break after running regular, steady and a bit hard is good. That’s the takeaway, as I’m sure you know.

Yup, as they say, “you can’t get blood out of a stone”. I am a couple years in and tend to be obsessive about the things I put my mind to. For me the challenge can sometimes be finding the healthy balance.

You and the all the others on this sight certainly help me out to that end.

I have much appreciation for all of you.

Constant PE wasn’t for me and by experimentation, two days resting isn’t enough, apparently.

So far, took two long breaks lasting two months each. After the first one, got my best gains and was the time that I started using constant heat. Second break didn’t gift me with anything, but got really happy because my gains stayed alive during this long time off, which is amazing.

Currently experimenting one week ON followed by one week OFF, I’m liking this. Feeling that my base girth is way bigger due to dual clamping approach. Will keep at it a little longer before my next report.


Start 6.8” x 4.7” (4.9" BEG)

Now 7.5” x 4.9” (5.1" BEG)

Regras do Fórum

Very nice post, since my return to PE I decided to use this 6 on 1 week off approach.

I really feel like changing exercises every comeback would be beneficial too.


Start 30/06/2016 - BPEL 13cm MSEG 11,5cm

Now - BPEL 16,5cm MSEG 12cm BPFSL 17,5cm

Goal - BPEL 19cm MSEG 15cm BPFSL 20cm

Originally Posted by Lenny
Constant PE wasn’t for me and by experimentation, two days resting isn’t enough, apparently.

So far, took two long breaks lasting two months each. After the first one, got my best gains and was the time that I started using constant heat. Second break didn’t gift me with anything, but got really happy because my gains stayed alive during this long time off, which is amazing.

Currently experimenting one week ON followed by one week OFF, I’m liking this. Feeling that my base girth is way bigger due to dual clamping approach. Will keep at it a little longer before my next report.

I find experimental schedules are as key as new exercises, given how long I’ve been at PE. It’s the same reason I’m giving IPR a try. Mixing it up is important, even if we are just guessing at times.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Originally Posted by Dvdck
Very nice post, since my return to PE I decided to use this 6 on 1 week off approach.

I really feel like changing exercises every comeback would be beneficial too.

Changing exercises, focusing length or Girth then swapping each return from decon is a large part of thoughtfulgold’s Penis Enlargement as “Scheduled Trauma” theory and I talk about it at length in that work and the comments.

It’s a solid approach. I learned it from Big Al, I can’t take the credit for it.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Yea man, when you hit that thing, you want it to be like a myopic little old lady with a walker, not a heavyweight MMA champ with rage issues.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama


Last edited by xenolith : 02-17-2017 at .

Originally Posted by xenolith
Yea man, when you hit that thing, you want it to be like a myopic little old lady with a walker, not a heavyweight MMA champ with rage issues.

xeno

Yeah, you only get one of these bad boys. Maiming him is one of those “poor choices” I talk about when I tell jokes. *chuckles* A man ought not learn moderation in anything while on the ground, looking at the ceiling spinning.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
A man ought not learn moderation in anything while on the ground, looking at the ceiling spinning.

True dat! :chuckle:

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

I’m toying with different rest strategies, not to mention balancing my PE time against life’s schedule. I’m currently doing both length and girth exercises on a MTW schedule, then taking off 4 days. I get a full 96hr rest period between workouts. I’m also going to take off one week per month, so 3 or 4 weeks on, 1 off.

Furthermore, I am considering moving to a week on, week off routine where I only do girth or length instead of both and swap week to week, or maybe month to month, or even two months on, two off for each exercise. Then I’m always engaging in some sort of PE, but letting one part rest while I work the other, and maybe work in a month during the year where I do nothing at all. Probably this will be June, when we take a lot of family vacations. Might as well relax, eh.

Further-urthermore, I lightened my routine times and frequencies, especially the stretching.

Further-urther-urthermore, I vary the workouts day-to-day, as you might in the gym.

In other words, I’m toying with the schedules to see what works and what doesn’t. Probably the biggest thing I’ve found that does ~not~ work is making long-term plans. I originally planned months ahead. Now it’s week-to-week based on PI and my chimp-brain instincts.

Speaking of which, monkey thumb-feet might be nice for stretches, eh, and some creative jelqing.

- Saul


Bigger, Stronger, Thicker, Longer

2016-08-26: 6 1/8" x 5 ... 2016-02-28: 6 3/4" x 5... 2017-07-08: 6 7/8" x 5 1/8"

Lol, I’m so proud of my self, I haven’t squeezed or pulled on my penis for 48 hours. Only 288 hours to go, I can do this!

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