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Minimum Effective Dose

Minimum Effective Dose

Hello, I have been looking at posts that describe people’s 40-50min (plus) routines. My question to the experienced members (and those who have made gains) is:

What’s the minimum amount of work that is needed to see steady progress in the length and girth departments?

Perhaps this sounds like a naff starting point, but I am going to find it hard to find 40-50min per day to PE. My question is in the interest of efficiency and not laziness. Have a read of the ‘4 Hour Body’ by Tim Ferris and you’ll see what I mean.

Thanks in advance.


Starting 7/4/15 - BPEL 7.2in EG 5.5in

Recent 12/1/17 - BPEL 7.375in EG 5.75in

The 2 secrets of effective PE are consistency, and doing the least you can while still getting gains. Some people grow easily, some are hard gainers. Hard gainers usually find that time is far more important than the amount of force used.

The Linear Newbie Routine is the best place to start. It takes very little time to begin with, and builds up steadily, so you get to learn how your particular penis responds to PE. When you are just starting out, usually you will get newbie gains (though not everyone does), and you won’t have to invest in a long routine to get them. When you’ve been at it years, most likely you will need quite extended times to continue to gain.


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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Thanks firegoat I will give that a go and report back


Starting 7/4/15 - BPEL 7.2in EG 5.5in

Recent 12/1/17 - BPEL 7.375in EG 5.75in

MED Perspective

I’m also interested in the Minimum Effective Dose for P.E. When working with smooth tissue, we shouldn’t have the same perspective that we have on working with skeletal muscle. That means more strain and longer sessions do not equate to more penile growth. Thus our routines should be reevaluated.

I also find the basic exercises are enough to stimulate growth. You don’t need more than 5 exercises.

For me personally I find that 2 days a week no more than an hour is enough. The routine consists of a 10 min warmup (hot water wrap), 10 min stretching session (add pressure enough to feel the stretch) , a 5 min Jelq (super light pressure) and a 5 min V-Jelq, followed by a 5 min warm down (the reason that its 5 mins is because I take a hot bath right after.) In time when you’ve reached a plateau you can ramp up the INTENSITY of the exercises, not the duration.

I think that rest and relaxation is the most important aspect to P.E. The actual cementing and growth process requires NOT vigorous exercise and long durations but just ENOUGH exercise (I.e. The Minimum Effective Dose) to tear ligaments and stimulate blood flow. You then use the rest of the week to R&R which promotes the Healing, Growth, and Cementing process. Coupled with dietary options to help you if you’re into that. Remember that biology responds well to intelligent application, not towards brute force.

I have yet to experience any injury or negative side effect through my time with P.E, only growth and positive penile health through this mindset and routine. I’d like to hear other perspectives on this matter and the results of your actions, take care guys.

Originally Posted by MisterMojo
When working with smooth tissue, we shouldn’t have the same perspective that we have on working with skeletal muscle. That means more strain and longer sessions do not equate to more penile growth. Thus our routines should be reevaluated.

Most of what we are doing isn’t working with smooth muscle tissue; it’s working with collagenous tissue. In the earlier stages of PE, we only need enough time and strain to stimulate an increase in the elastin’s ability to expand and allow more size, which we capitalise on through consistent effort - with lower force and time methodologies, that is the (primary but not only) growth mechanism. Jelqing and squeezes are examples.

An alternative growth mechanism is creep, which requires us to work with the just right amount of force, and sufficiently long sessions, which is what makes PE a bit of an art and is why we have to learn how our own penis responds rather than using someone else’s routine. Too little force and there is insufficient to allow creep to take place. Too much force and the tissues will adapt by getting tougher to resist injury. Creep can’t be rushed, it takes time. Hanging and clamping would fall into this category.

That’s the hugely simplified version of course, but this is the basics forum. There are much deeper scientific articles elsewhere on the forum. :)


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

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