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Originally Posted by Severian
Thanks, can you show me an example of an all day stretcher and how this differs from an extender?

All Day Stretchers:
Xsleeve by Autoextender
Phallosan Forte
ESL 40

Extenders:
X4 Labs
Size Genetics
JES Extender
Male Edge

The difference, when you look at the ones from one category to the other are obvious. But it bears a lot of reading to get a feel for what’s right for you.

Also, those lists are nowhere near conclusive. I need to write a Device Primer and haven’t yet. I will though.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Hi,can you tell me where is Memento. There is no new thread for him since a year

AWOL or Retired probably.


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What exercises can I do to increase base girth other than Horse 440 squeezes?

Originally Posted by guardju
What exercises can I do to increase base girth other than Horse 440 squeezes?

Hi gardju

As far as I experienced it manual stretching gave me quite more base girth.

Hope this works for you too.

Richard65


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Who nicked my tape measure? Things just teleported off the earth.

Originally Posted by Sheshappyimnot

Who nicked my tape measure? Things just teleported off the earth.

It was me. During the Critical Security alert, all tape measures and rulers have to be checked against the official Thunder’s Place standard measure!


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All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

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Straight forward question but here goes: What’s the difference between conditioning and toughening?

Originally Posted by DarkEngine
Straight forward question but here goes: What’s the difference between conditioning and toughening?


Conditioning is fairly light PE of limited duration, with a slow increase in time and intensity which aims:

To increase the elastin content of all the collagenous tissue so that it has a more ‘stretchy’ response to PE exercise

Enables any particularly tougher/tighter tissues to become more flexible so that they are not holding back the tissues around them from stretching

Enables any tissues that are weaker to become more balanced to their surrounding tissues so they don’t get injured by the amount of ‘force’ needed to cause adaptation in the stronger tissues as PE intensity increases

Basically, conditioning gets the collagenous tissues used to being exercised and teaches them that they need to adapt, without injury, to a new stimulus they haven’t experienced before. Collagenous tissue is fairly slow to healthily modify, so the process needs to be fairly gentle, over a period of time.

Toughening is an emergency response by the collagenous tissue to doing ‘too much, too soon’. Instead of becoming more flexible and increasing elastin content, it forms strong bonds to resist and cope with the force being applied to it.

It’s a little like any other stretching exercise. If you stretch your hamstrings lightly and consistently, you will slowly increase your range of movement without getting injured. All the different tissues will adapt to the steady stretching at a rate (some faster than others) which ultimately allows you to stretch much further after 3 months than on day one. But if you do too much stretching too quickly for your hamstrings, you’ll either injure the tightest or weakest link in the structures or the tendons will get stronger and harder to elongate to protect the tissues from over-stretching damage.

It is of course all far more complicated than that! But that’s the gist of it in a nutshell.


firegoat is fully RETIRED from Thundersplace.

All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

Originally Posted by firegoat
Conditioning is fairly light PE of limited duration, with a slow increase in time and intensity which aims:

To increase the elastin content of all the collagenous tissue so that it has a more ‘stretchy’ response to PE exercise

Enables any particularly tougher/tighter tissues to become more flexible so that they are not holding back the tissues around them from stretching

Enables any tissues that are weaker to become more balanced to their surrounding tissues so they don’t get injured by the amount of ‘force’ needed to cause adaptation in the stronger tissues as PE intensity increases

Basically, conditioning gets the collagenous tissues used to being exercised and teaches them that they need to adapt, without injury, to a new stimulus they haven’t experienced before. Collagenous tissue is fairly slow to healthily modify, so the process needs to be fairly gentle, over a period of time.

Toughening is an emergency response by the collagenous tissue to doing ‘too much, too soon’. Instead of becoming more flexible and increasing elastin content, it forms strong bonds to resist and cope with the force being applied to it.

It’s a little like any other stretching exercise. If you stretch your hamstrings lightly and consistently, you will slowly increase your range of movement without getting injured. All the different tissues will adapt to the steady stretching at a rate (some faster than others) which ultimately allows you to stretch much further after 3 months than on day one. But if you do too much stretching too quickly for your hamstrings, you’ll either injure the tightest or weakest link in the structures or the tendons will get stronger and harder to elongate to protect the tissues from over-stretching damage.

It is of course all far more complicated than that! But that’s the gist of it in a nutshell.

Thanks for the thorough explanation! So is injury typically an onset of toughening? Or is it possible to toughen with no immediate signs at all?
I’m guessing it’s the negative PI’s that indicate over training.

To throw another question in here, sometimes I have a masturbate a lot to get my penis erect enough as the erection fades quickly. Is this presumably a sign of poor EQ?
If so I’d chalk it up to over training but I don’t think that’s the case; it might be low libido.

Originally Posted by DarkEngine
Thanks for the thorough explanation! So is injury typically an onset of toughening? Or is it possible to toughen with no immediate signs at all?
I’m guessing it’s the negative PI’s that indicate over training.

To throw another question in here, sometimes I have a masturbate a lot to get my penis erect enough as the erection fades quickly. Is this presumably a sign of poor EQ?
If so I’d chalk it up to over training but I don’t think that’s the case; it might be low libido.


I wouldn’t say injury is an onset of toughening. Injury can happen early on from doing too much too soon, well before any toughening takes place. PI’s are a good indicator of over-training, but you shouldn’t really be getting anywhere near over-training during a conditioning phase; poor PI’s are an indicator of over-training and over-training will lead to toughening, not conditioning.

Inability to get an easy erection (in a younger male anyway) is possibly due to over-training/insufficient rest, but I recon 90% of the time it’s caused by excessive use of porn, not low libido.


firegoat is fully RETIRED from Thundersplace.

All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

Originally Posted by Richard65
Hi gardju

As far as I experienced it manual stretching gave me quite more base girth.

Hope this works for you too.

Richard65

Thanks for the reply.

I’ve done manual stretches as part of my regular routine and unfortunately haven’t seen any gains in base girth.

Originally Posted by guardju
Thanks for the reply.

I’ve done manual stretches as part of my regular routine and unfortunately haven’t seen any gains in base girth.

Oh, then I have to hand the question over to girth-experts. Until now I have no personal experience beyond manual stretching and jelqing.

Girth-experts, please comment

Richard65


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Originally Posted by firegoat
I wouldn’t say injury is an onset of toughening. Injury can happen early on from doing too much too soon, well before any toughening takes place. PI’s are a good indicator of over-training, but you shouldn’t really be getting anywhere near over-training during a conditioning phase; poor PI’s are an indicator of over-training and over-training will lead to toughening, not conditioning.

Inability to get an easy erection (in a younger male anyway) is possibly due to over-training/insufficient rest, but I recon 90% of the time it’s caused by excessive use of porn, not low libido.

I thought about porn overdose — I’m seeing if I can stay off for it two weeks and see the difference it makes.
I say low libido because I have no sex life (ever, in fact) and my stance on dating is cynical. In the teens to mid-twenties (I’m 28 now) my boners would be far more frequent and, coincidentally or not, I was much more excited over dates and girls. This isn’t to say I don’t get a sex drive — it just doesn’t come from social interaction.

On that note, I will also try toning down the strength of my grips during jelqs. The biggest nuisance I have atm is that slow jelqs (5+ secs) cause the erection to subside quickly, sometimes to the point of going flaccid.

Hi guys!!

I have a question about manual stretching. I find it difficult to do it because my gland is smaller than the rest of the penis. Its really hard to get the right grip, that isn’t placed on top of the actual gland. When I’m jelqing it gets to the right size. But when erect, it normally stays that way. First I want to know it there is any variations on the stretching grip that is easier to do, and doesn’t demand the gland to act as a stop point to the hand. Second of all, is there any exercise that increase gland size specifically?

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