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The Chemical PE Thread

Congrats on your gains, alin!


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Been doing a little additional research and am real nervous to spend that kind of money and perhaps get no results. I see inuic did the procedure a couple of years ago and seemed to be happy, however his is the only positive report I’ve read. Can anyone else shed light here?

BPTony,

“Priapus Shot” is just a marketing name for the reinjection of Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP). It might be effective, since PRP contains lots of goodies from your blood in a highly concentrated dose, such as platelets growth factor, igf1, igf2, vegf and quite a few others. As these growth factors are from your own blood, they’re obviously the real deal, no cheap china bunk ;)

The wiki article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platelet-rich_plasma sums up the current knowledge of PRP quite nicely.

What I’d rather be wary of is usury when it comes to price, and hygiene. Since the equipment required, mainly a centrifuge and syringes, is rather cheap compared to some hyper expensive radiotherapy apparatus, I’d tell the doctor clearly where a fair pricing ends and usury starts.


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Originally Posted by Doubleweener
Congrats on your gains, alin!

Thanks DW !

How are things going in your case?


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Originally Posted by alin
Thanks DW !

How are things going in your case?


I practically had no time this year for workouts and chemPE continuous and consistent for more than 2 weeks in a piece ;(
And I don’t want to pin my tunica just for the sake of it.


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Originally Posted by Doubleweener
I practically had no time this year for workouts and chemPE continuous and consistent for more than 2 weeks in a piece ;(
And I don’t want to pin my tunica just for the sake of it.

I see. I remember you talked about getting real igf 1 and going by your location(europe,where I’m also located) I can tell you can get real pharma igf 1(Increlex).


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Personally, I’m more fond of VEGF, which worked for me very nicely so far. But it’s hard to find research grade VEGF in large enough quantities for a modest price (which shouldn’t be in the 4 digits range).


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Originally Posted by Doubleweener
BPTony,
“Priapus Shot” is just a marketing name for the reinjection of Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP). It might be effective, since PRP contains lots of goodies from your blood in a highly concentrated dose, such as platelets growth factor, igf1, igf2, vegf and quite a few others. As these growth factors are from your own blood, they’re obviously the real deal, no cheap china bunk ;)
The wiki article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platelet-rich_plasma sums up the current knowledge of PRP quite nicely.
What I’d rather be wary of is usury when it comes to price, and hygiene. Since the equipment required, mainly a centrifuge and syringes, is rather cheap compared to some hyper expensive radiotherapy apparatus, I’d tell the doctor clearly where a fair pricing ends and usury starts.


Thank you for this encouragement. I have already negotiated him down to an equivalent of $400 which in South Africa is still a pretty heavy price. I’d be happy to settle on half that as Calcium Chloride is really inexpensive.

BTW what is VEGF?

Originally Posted by Doubleweener
Personally, I’m more fond of VEGF, which worked for me very nicely so far. But it’s hard to find research grade VEGF in large enough quantities for a modest price (which shouldn’t be in the 4 digits range).

Regarding VEGF: I would also like to try this compound but given the fact that is not commercialized as pharmacy grade I would not risk getting from some untrusted internet source. Plus it seems that PGE 1 and IGF 1 (which can be purchased from pharmacies ) raise VEGF(I haven’t looked how much it raises it)

PGE1 analog alprostadil induces VEGF and eNOS expression in endothelial cells.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15951350

http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc…014483504001629
“Neovascularization stimulated by IGF-1 mediated induction of vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) is one of t….”


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Be so kind as to give me some info on VEGF, what is it and what does it do? Do you inject into your unit?

@Alin
With the extremely small quantities needed, I can’t see a major problem in the use of research grade VEGF from nameable peptide producers - compared to pharma grade. Once in solution, you can still run it through a 0.2 micron filter, if considered necessary. As for the PGE 1 and IGF 1 raising VEGF levels, my estimation is that the induced VEGF quantities are relatively small, thus making the progress of true angiogenesis an even longer one. VEGF injection felt like sped-up growth. I worked up to high levels of soreness and the day after VEGF injection the soreness was almost completely gone. For some funny reason, I experienced one day of retraction (small and skinny looking penis) and then the gains.

@BPTony
Vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) is a very potent growth factor that stimulates vasculogenesis and angiogenesis, that is the growth of new blood vessels and hence smooth muscle. The wiki article sums it up quite nicely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vascu…l_growth_factor. VEGF is also in your PRP as one of the main beneficiaries. Speaking of your PRP in the way of “priapus shot”, the offer of 400$ for the treatment seems like approaching a reasonable level of pricing. It’s still a lot, and the doctor still gains an decent amount of cash for reinjecting your own bodily fluids. Once you’re ready, I recommend to get a healthy and balanced diet and a solid workout with jelqing and clamping that week before the priapus shot, to maximize results.


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Originally Posted by Doubleweener
@Alin
With the extremely small quantities needed, I can’t see a major problem in the use of research grade VEGF from nameable peptide producers - compared to pharma grade. Once in solution, you can still run it through a 0.2 micron filter, if considered necessary. As for the PGE 1 and IGF 1 raising VEGF levels, my estimation is that the induced VEGF quantities are relatively small, thus making the progress of true angiogenesis an even longer one. VEGF injection felt like sped-up growth. I worked up to high levels of soreness and the day after VEGF injection the soreness was almost completely gone. For some funny reason, I experienced one day of retraction (small and skinny looking penis) and then the gains.

@BPTony
Vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) is a very potent growth factor that stimulates vasculogenesis and angiogenesis, that is the growth of new blood vessels and hence smooth muscle. The wiki article sums it up quite nicely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vascu…l_growth_factor. VEGF is also in your PRP as one of the main beneficiaries. Speaking of your PRP in the way of “priapus shot”, the offer of 400$ for the treatment seems like approaching a reasonable level of pricing. It’s still a lot, and the doctor still gains an decent amount of cash for reinjecting your own bodily fluids. Once you’re ready, I recommend to get a healthy and balanced diet and a solid workout with jelqing and clamping that week before the priapus shot, to maximize results.


Thanks Doubleweener, I think I will try and get hold of VEGF rather. I was supposed to have the shot yesterday but they never confirmed the appointment with me so I didn’t go.

Where do you find vgef?

Peptide producers for research purposes.


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Ok thank you Doubleweener

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