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The Chemical PE Thread

Originally Posted by Atmospheric
I agree that if you’re going to use a copper-like compound, GHKcu would be the best one for the job.

Here’s some decent and quick reads about it’s effect on tissue remodeling:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18644225
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11045606


Thankyou so much for this info. Do you think that the penis may increase in length and girth using this in the local region of the penis?

Has anybody tried injecting with this?

Originally Posted by BPTony
Thankyou so much for this info. Do you think that the penis may increase in length and girth using this in the local region of the penis?

Has anybody tried injecting with this?

I’ve never seen reports of anyone injecting this into their penis, although I’m sure you can easily look up dosages for skincare related applications, which is what it’s usually used for, and go up from there. I think it would be best used topically, but I suppose you can probably inject it. For injecting it would probably work best subcutaneously, but that’s just speculation. I don’t think using this alone would give gains, but it would probably do a good job of speeding them up if you’re combining it with other manual or chemical activities.

As for getting a hold of some, it seems a few of the common peptide sites carry it. Shouldn’t be too hard to search up. There was a person in the promuscle ChemPE thread that mentioned getting some from China and reported good results as well.

Atmosphericm- thank you for the info. If you have any links or contacts I’d really appreciate you passing them on to me. Now I might need to write a bit extra as I don’t want to upset the moderators with too short an answer. Would you perhaps be able to suggest to me what chem PE program worked for you as I really need to get my unit longer. I’m quite satisfied with girth.

I’ll dig through my collection of articles and see if I have any more info related to it and dosages specifically. It’s used for quite a few different applications, such as cosmetic skincare, to wound closure, to aiding hair growth, so upon looking it up you’ll likely get a few different ideas for dosages/concentrations, etc.

As for ChemPE - as much as I enjoy researching all this craziness, I’ve not yet had time to give it a proper try, as my personal life has been quite busy for a while now. I have the funds set aside and a potential protocol outlined, but simply not the time. The acquisition of DHT and getting real IGFLR3 are also a bit of a setback. Hopefully soon I’ll get to give it all a try.

There is one thing I can say I’ve tried, though. It’s common in the ChemPE realm, but still worth mentioning nonetheless. I’ve been taking Paba, 3000mg a day in pill form, like the patent states with Potaba. I don’t know if orally is better than topically, but I chose to take it this way simply because I didn’t have any DMSO on hand at the time of purchase. I can certainly note it’s positive effects though. It helps keep the tunica soft and more elastic than usual, at least for me.

Did you notice any increase in size with using the Paba. I’d be very interested in following a program of chemPE. As I have said I’ve been injecting colloidal copper which is obviously not ideal as you guys have indicated. Do you know anyone that has had increases using chem PE. I am particularly wanting length as already 15cm (6”) girth. If it gets a bit thicker its ok, but I really would like to get to an 8” length. Also I think my cock actually has increased in girth, but will have to measure, but it seems like its reduced in length. Is that possible?

Hi BPTony,

Answers to your collected questions:

Originally Posted by BPTony
Thankyou so much for this info. Do you think that the penis may increase in length and girth using this in the local region of the penis?

Has anybody tried injecting with this?


GHK-Cu is said to have the following effects on tissue, among others:
1) relaxation and remodeling of strongly interconnected collagenous fibers
2) sped-up healing
3) rejuvenation and to some extent DNA repair
4) used excessively, it can cause the decomposition of filaments, tendons and skin

IIRC, someone in another forum used it among other APIs in his chemPE protocol. There are no detailed reports.

Originally Posted by BPTony
Cool, thank you Doubleweener. Is it in a liquid form? Do you think any growth might occur and how much should I inject? Should I inject into both sides of the corpus cavernosum?


Serious and reliable companies sell their peptides in powder form and give a recommendation on how to store and reconstitute the powder. I can’t tell whether it will cause growth per se, but I think it is likely to contribute to growth if dosed correctly. It could be interesting for length gains in terms of relaxing the penile filaments.

Originally Posted by BPTony
Should I inject into both sides of the corpus cavernosum?


Both sides are strongly interconnected, aren’t they? Why cause twice the micro-injury of pinning?

Originally Posted by BPTony
How do I get my hands on GHK-Cu and how much to inject? Where to inject?


Do your own search on where to obtain copper peptide. As for a dose-recommendation: I would inject a small multiple of the naturally occurring dose of ng/ml serum, scaled to the estimated penile volume in ml. As the where and way of injection, intra-CC should give the highest efficiency.

The wiki article about GHK peptide gives a good overview:
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_peptide_GHK-Cu

Be careful with copper and copper-based APIs: excessive doses can result in permanently damaged tissue!


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Originally Posted by BPTony
Did you notice any increase in size with using the Paba.

Not particularly, no. All Paba does is keep the tunica soft and more pliable than normal, so that exercises are extra effective. I’d recommend it, but it won’t do much on it’s own.

Originally Posted by Doubleweener
Hi BPTony,

Answers to your collected questions:

GHK-Cu is said to have the following effects on tissue, among others:
1) relaxation and remodeling of strongly interconnected collagenous fibers
2) sped-up healing
3) rejuvenation and to some extent DNA repair
4) used excessively, it can cause the decomposition of filaments, tendons and skin

IIRC, someone in another forum used it among other APIs in his chemPE protocol. There are no detailed reports.

Serious and reliable companies sell their peptides in powder form and give a recommendation on how to store and reconstitute the powder. I can’t tell whether it will cause growth per se, but I think it is likely to contribute to growth if dosed correctly. It could be interesting for length gains in terms of relaxing the penile filaments.

Both sides are strongly interconnected, aren’t they? Why cause twice the micro-injury of pinning?

Do your own search on where to obtain copper peptide. As for a dose-recommendation: I would inject a small multiple of the naturally occurring dose of ng/ml serum, scaled to the estimated penile volume in ml. As the where and way of injection, intra-CC should give the highest efficiency.

The wiki article about GHK peptide gives a good overview:
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_peptide_GHK-Cu

Be careful with copper and copper-based APIs: excessive doses can result in permanently damaged tissue!


Your comprehensive answers are greatly appreciated. I would really love to chat with anyone else who might have tried this, but even if I don’t get to do that I would still like to try. I appreciate it that you have pointed out that I only need to puncture one side as I had a plication on the right side in my early 20’s as the curve to the left was severe and affected intercourse with my wife. The plication actually reduced my length by over an inch which affected me really badly and caused depression. I have managed to recover some of my original loss but would like to have more length.

BPTony,

I make my statements under the assumption of a fully healthy penis. I am no expert in the field of plications, so I cannot exactly tell whether in your case a pinning of both sides simultaneously would be appropriate or not.
You can basically find out, if you haven’t so far, by injecting PGE-1 or one of the other vasolidators of trimix or quadmix in the recommended dose (or even slightly lower) to one side only. If this translates to the induced erection as one-sided or strongly in favor of the side you pinned, you’d have the answer of not enough connections between the two CC chambers. My personal guess is that it is rather related to the tunica.


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I can ask my chemist to supply me with PGE-1. I take it I will get a good erection with this!! What is the recommended dose to pin? I tried to pin a little testosterone in tonight but I think the needle is a bit big and I was afraid I would pin too deep so I ended up doing 3ml in my butt.

Originally Posted by BPTony

I can ask my chemist to supply me with PGE-1. I take it I will get a good erection with this!! What is the recommended dose to pin? I tried to pin a little testosterone in tonight but I think the needle is a bit big and I was afraid I would pin too deep so I ended up doing 3ml in my butt.

Hi,

Have a thorough read of the Basics 1 - 3 of the initial post in this thread. In the ideal case, you should go through a doctor-guided process with intra-CC injections. The doctor will then lead you through titration, which is finding out the dose you best respond to. As a rough guide, the first time you inject PGE-1 (ideally alpostradil), the total dose should be around 3 to 5 micro(!)grams. I recommend 1ml syringes with 30G x 1/2” needle (0.3mm x 12mm).


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I was some time away from this thread, but wanted to share with you my experience regarding Chem PE.

I was able to gain 0.4” permanent girth. Length not so much. This was made in about 5 months of Chem PE(~3 sessions/week). I used real igf 1, pge1 ,papaverine,dht and testosterone enanthate(the latter being used for 8 weeks) . Was it worth it ? I hoped for more but 0.4” gain is still a gain.

What I would like to try in the future if I get back to Chem PE:

-5-6 sessions a week(I’ve noticed some guys doing this gained quite a lot)

-IGF 1 combined with VEGF and FGF


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Originally Posted by alin

I was some time away from this thread, but wanted to share with you my experience regarding Chem PE.

I was able to gain 0.4” permanent girth. Length not so much. This was made in about 5 months of Chem PE(~3 sessions/week). I used real igf 1, pge1 ,papaverine,dht and testosterone enanthate(the latter being used for 8 weeks) . Was it worth it ? I hoped for more but 0.4” gain is still a gain.

What I would like to try in the future if I get back to Chem PE:

-5-6 sessions a week(I’ve noticed some guys doing this gained quite a lot)

-IGF 1 combined with VEGF and FGF

What do you know regards the priapus procedure? It is now available in South Africa and I’d like to try it out.

Originally Posted by BPTony
What do you know regards the priapus procedure? It is now available in South Africa and I’d like to try it out.

Actually I don’t know much about it besides what was written on this thread.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Ok. I spoke with the doctor today and will be making an appointment. Nervous about it but hope I get the results of a longer unit

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