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Yellow Bananas Intro to Chem PE

Todays hanging session had to be cut short due to an incredibly nauseous feeling came over me. I started sweating and became very dizzy. I suspect its due to my body trying to keep my penis at the temperature it should be.

Per BPFSL - 19.5cm
Post BPFSL - 21.2cm
Strain = 8.77%

Not only did i feel extremely nauseous, but I had EXTREME fatigue in my penis while hanging. It felt as if there were bubbles popping in my shaft, it felt incredibly strange. Its almost as if my shaft was incrementally getting loose and each time it would "drop". Not literally "drop" but that was the sensation i was having. Maybe the DMSO limits how much weight I can comfortably hang. It clearly loosens the penis tissues or something along those lines.

Next time i will lower the weight as it was too much for me to handle. My post BPFSL also did not reach my last hanging session, and i assume its because the weight is just too much and my dick was tugging on it to stop it from falling off. It was almost close to unbearable, not to mention the nausea kicking in. Easily my worst hanging session haha.


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Originally Posted by AndyJ
Interesting. I’ve seen reports of nausea from new hangers, but it’s not common and usually just a few times.

Yeah, I’m definitely not new to hanging. But I do suspect its due to my heating coming from my super powerful NIR pad. I forgot to mention I also have an NIR lamp aimed at my pubic region. I didn’t feel hot, but my body just started sweating, and getting nauseous. I guess its similar to when you have fever and your temperature goes above 37.8°C, that’s when you start sweating and getting that "cold" but hot feeling.


No penis is different. What works for one, will work for another.

So, here’s a little update.
I seem to have hit 20cm BPEL, but it could be due to a measuring fault so ill continue using DMSO until i get to 20.5 which will be much more convincing evidence of gained length.

I’m still consistently applying 99.9% DMSO twice a day. I believe that, after a few more days when the gains become more noticeable, I’ll discontinue the use of DMSO but continue with my twice-daily hanging and my once-daily clamping routine. My theory is that since DMSO is breaking down collagen, when I transition to a deconditioning phase, my penis will be left unstimulated and unstretched, which should allow the collagen to be replaced while the penis is at a shorter length (possibly explaining why I lost flaccid girth).

I think of DMSO as a means to rapidly degrade the penis, which is why my BPFSL increases significantly. Using it twice a day is preventing the penis from repairing itself. So, when I discontinue the use of DMSO, the penis can undergo uninterrupted healing and the deposition of new collagen. However, my last deconditioning phase left me with a significantly smaller flaccid girth and length. I assume this was because the penis was allowed to heal in its shortened state.

Therefore, I plan to hang twice daily while the penis is in the process of repairing itself. In theory, a significant amount of collagen will be deposited while it’s in a stretched state and will allow me to get closer to the BPFSL measurement of 21cm. After two weeks of this routine, I will undergo a two-week deconditioning phase to let the penis settle into its new, presumably normal state.


No penis is different. What works for one, will work for another.

I will now be switching to my 2nd phase of stretching. I will be ending the use of DMSO as I seem to get maximum stretch within the first week of using it, any longer it seems the penis starts to heal which causes my BPFSL to decrease and not reach so far. Maximum stretch I got was consistently over 21.5cm but not quite hitting 22cm. But the past 3 days I can see a decrease in the overall stretching capability while hanging and not hanging. I think my penis is naturally wanting to heal after the constant stress DMSO puts it under.

So I’m now going to be hanging with my NIR pad, I will be also practicing the supposed growth effects of NIR, to do this I will be using the pad for 20 minutes maximum while hanging on my normal routine and weights. This phase is to get the penis to heal in this elongated state and ensure im always using an ADS inbetween my 2 hanging sessions. I will keep this phase up for atleast a week, maybe push it to 2. And then its decon time after that.


No penis is different. What works for one, will work for another.

I have a terrible announcement to make. I have some kind of infection on my penis. The whole shaft is swollen and is incredibly difficult and painful to pull the foreskin back. When I do pull the foreskin back, my glans is swollen and the meatus is very puffy and painful to touch. I have white patches on my glans that looks disgusting. Not only that, but I’m pretty sure I’ve injured my suspensory ligament. I have a dull ache/pain that is located exactly where the suspensory ligament is. I have 3 enlarged lymph nodes around my pubic region which i originally thought was an inguinal hernia, but a trip to the doctor told me otherwise.

Anybody have any experience with this? The doctor was confused as to why I have enlarged lymph nodes in my pelvis and she ordered for an ultrasound in that area. At the time of getting that check up, i wasn’t aware that my penis was swollen and its progressively gotten worse. I’m going to be taking a break for a while as I’ve also got a fever. Doctor said i may have an STI but I doubt it.

For my suspensory ligament, should i be putting ice or heat on it? It feels very bruised. And will it affect my size?


No penis is different. What works for one, will work for another.

I have no insight as to what is going on with your situation, and even if I did, once you are getting to the point of swelling, pain, redness and swollen regional lymph nodes, I think the only person’s advice or perspective you should follow is your doctor’s. I’m sure you’ll get through this, but soft tissue infections in this area can progress quickly and lead to some real unpleasant fixes, so I’d say it might be time to be conservative and follow your doc’s lead until you are 100% back to normal.

I know it’s hard but try to let go of any concerns about how your size is affected, since that might lead to making decisions that don’t serve your best interests in the long term. You can’t know if things will be impacted or not, but whatever the case, better to have a healthy functioning unit than any other ambitions that are supposed to add to that basic good function and satisfaction.

In any event, I’m sorry you’re dealing with this and i wish you the best of luck for a speedy recovery. Hopefully it passes quickly and you can figure out a way to find a balance between pursuing your growth ambitions and being safe with your guy.

Good luck. Please keep us posted.


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Originally Posted by NewYellowBanana
I have a terrible announcement to make. I have some kind of infection on my penis. The whole shaft is swollen and is incredibly difficult and painful to pull the foreskin back. When I do pull the foreskin back, my glans is swollen and the meatus is very puffy and painful to touch. I have white patches on my glans that looks disgusting. Not only that, but I’m pretty sure I’ve injured my suspensory ligament. I have a dull ache/pain that is located exactly where the suspensory ligament is. I have 3 enlarged lymph nodes around my pubic region which i originally thought was an inguinal hernia, but a trip to the doctor told me otherwise.

Anybody have any experience with this?

And will it affect my size?

Could you post a picture? I think I had a similar event after hanging

Originally Posted by NewYellowBanana
I have some kind of infection on my penis.
The whole shaft is swollen and is difficult to pull the foreskin back.
I have white patches on my glans I have 3 enlarged lymph nodes around my pubic region.

Anybody have any experience with this?

will it affect my size?

Hanging can damage any structure in the shaft for obvious reasons.
If the damaged structure is a vein, it use to bleed inside, and while the hanger keeps squeezing the area, by the time you remove the hanger, you might have a clot or several clots.

In other ocasions, the damaged structure is a lymphatic vessel that gets therefore swollen at a spot, and potentially obstructed.
The obstruction will cause swelling at the glans and distal part of the penis… this lymphatic swelling create excess of queratinization therefore you will have white patches or skin scales on the skin. That will fall eventually and get back to normal
Also, these obstructions can happen at several spots at different points along the lymphatic system, migrating locally until totally dissolving or resolving

You can expect recovery in several weeks or couple months.

Finally, yes, size will be affected because all inflammatory processes are detrimental to dick size, in special length. But you can recover the loss of length slowly after you recover.
I recommend abandon hanging completely and replace by other more safe PE methods

I send you a comparison of my case. I have drawn a black line across the shaft to check the girth is the same in both pics, and you can see the loss of length clearly visible in the swollen penis picture.

Dick pics are not allowed in this forum. You can post the pic in a suitable forum and then add the link here.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by lowe
Hanging can damage any structure in the shaft for obvious reasons.
If the damaged structure is a vein, it use to bleed inside, and while the hanger keeps squeezing the area, by the time you remove the hanger, you might have a clot or several clots.

In other ocasions, the damaged structure is a lymphatic vessel that gets therefore swollen at a spot, and potentially obstructed.
The obstruction will cause swelling at the glans and distal part of the penis… this lymphatic swelling create excess of queratinization therefore you will have white patches or skin scales on the skin. That will fall eventually and get back to normal
Also, these obstructions can happen at several spots at different points along the lymphatic system, migrating locally until totally dissolving or resolving

You can expect recovery in several weeks or couple months.

Finally, yes, size will be affected because all inflammatory processes are detrimental to dick size, in special length. But you can recover the loss of length slowly after you recover.
I recommend abandon hanging completely and replace by other more safe PE methods

I send you a comparison of my case. I have drawn a black line across the shaft to check the girth is the same in both pics, and you can see the loss of length clearly visible in the swollen penis picture.


It ended up being a trip to the ER. Got me on antibiotics for a couple days intravenously. I got sent home with some more antibiotics and a cream. My ligament area is still swollen a bruised, but its not as bad as it once was. The lymphnodes have gone down in size, and the swelling on the shaft has also gone down. My dick looks like a baseball bat. Skinny at the base, and thickens as it swells towards the glans. I’m fingers crossing I don’t lose any size. What i thought was normal are sharp short pains along the shaft while hanging. Just thought that was normal. Now i guess not. I also thought it could be the DMSO. But i don’t know.


No penis is different. What works for one, will work for another.

Originally Posted by NewYellowBanana
It ended up being a trip to the ER. Got me on antibiotics for a couple days intravenously. I got sent home with some more antibiotics and a cream.

So, an infection? They generally don’t do IV antibiotics unless it’s something serious.

I went through your thread from the beginning, and I’m going to reference a bit from your first post:

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Background:
PE on and off for about 3 years. Started off with Jelqing & manual stretches. I eventually read more into PE and was intrigued, so I ordered the total man hanger set. Since then, I had gone through periods of continuous hanging which would last me a couple months, then I’d start back up again a month later. During this time I did some occasional clamping which was done incorrectly, and because of this, I have a discolored, dark penis, and maybe some scar tissue under the skin at the base of my dick.

I rarely have great erections without stimulation. Only sometimes when I wake up in the morning is when I get an erection without stimulation. …

Chem PE Routine (Twice a day):
1. Apply DMSO + PABA

Later you mentioned further skin problems, which sounded like a reaction to the DMSO+PABA mix.

Though I was initially skeptical, it looks like DMSO+PABA isn’t working for you. I’m also concerned about the infection. I could see some of that scar tissue you mentioned being softened and pulled loose by using the mix, but I don’t see how it could get infected.

From your first post:

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7 inches exactly. My flaccid is 5.3 inches.

Followed later by:

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I did increase my length from 7 inches to 8 inches, and I also went from 5 inches in girth to 5.5 inches. … I didn’t manage to maintain these gains. I maintained my routine exactly the same, fearing that I might disrupt the progress or make a mistake. So, I assure you, I remained dedicated. Currently, my length has decreased to 7.25 inches, and I have lost all the girth gains.

And after the decon, serious shrinkage and worse EQ.

You made a tremendous gain, then lost it. Annoying, but not a big problem; what you got once, you can get again.

What I suspect is that you’re not able to handle the DMSO+PABA as often as you’re using it.

*If* it was scar tissue pulling loose, I’d get back under tension ASAP. ADS/ANS, preferably. Just a pound or two, to keep it extended as it heals. You don’t want any damaged tissue healing up in a shortened state. Maybe some mild massage and Firegoat rolls to reduce any adhesions.

Other than that, I’d treat it as a decon and not put any PE stress on things for a while.

What’s your age and general health?

Originally Posted by AndyJ
So, an infection? They generally don’t do IV antibiotics unless it’s something serious.

*If* it was scar tissue pulling loose, I’d get back under tension ASAP. ADS/ANS, preferably. Just a pound or two, to keep it extended as it heals. You don’t want any damaged tissue healing up in a shortened state. Maybe some mild massage and Firegoat rolls to reduce any adhesions.

Other than that, I’d treat it as a decon and not put any PE stress on things for a while.

What’s your age and general health?


Thanks for the summary, its interesting that you have basically gotten it right with the info available.
Yes, it ended up being an infection caused by inflammation. I told them about the DMSO and they said it may be the cause.

My penis has some strange hard "edema" around the foreskin which makes it very difficult to pull the foreskin back still. My lymph nodes have settled down but i believe there was more to it than just an infection. My suspensory ligaments are hard and thick, swollen it seems. I can press around and underneath no issue, but when i press on the ligament itself, its very much enlarged and rigid. Maybe the DMSO weakened things to the point they couldn’t hold the weight? It seems to make sense since I’ve been hanging this weight range for around 2 years. While hanging, i was starting to get sharp pains along an inside the shaft that i ignored due to feeling it before but didn’t think too much of it. Im thinking i may have strained something, then it somehow got into the blood stream which caused a wild infection with an extreme fever.

So my penis is not fit to be kept in a vacuum cup at the moment. Im worried itll cause more damage to the glans which already seem odd enough (red and smaller, meatus still puffy, unusual shape).
But what else could i do to keep it under tension so it doesn’t shrink? Silicone sleeve? Or should i just let it heal? I did measure yesterday, size is around the same, maybe worse EQ too since erections are a little painful.

Im 20, my health is pretty good, fit and lift weights, eat clean daily. Not allergic to anything. Sex with gf has been a bit tuff, but since its a bit thicker at the glans, due to the somewhat swollen and hard foreskin, she appreciates the girth increase. Just been using a condom to prevent anything nasty from happening or possibly infecting her with something.

Appreciate the reply, thank you


No penis is different. What works for one, will work for another.

Still at 1400 grams? That’s a tick over three pounds. That’s my limit before blistering with a vacuum attachment, due to previous damage not related to PE, but that’s low for hanging of any type.

I had the twinges in the shaft, but I’m pretty sure they were from internal adhesions and scar tissue breaking loose. I got them when pumping, too. I started hanging just to do that. Unless you had a nasty infection that resulted in scarring or a "sports injury", it wouldn’t have been related to your pains. I don’t recall anyone else mentioning anything about it. (anyone who did, please chime in!)

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My penis has some strange hard "edema" around the foreskin which makes it very difficult to pull the foreskin back still.

Yeah, I had that too, but same as the twinges.

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My lymph nodes have settled down but i believe there was more to it than just an infection. My suspensory ligaments are hard and thick, swollen it seems. I can press around and underneath no issue, but when i press on the ligament itself, its very much enlarged and rigid. Maybe the DMSO weakened things to the point they couldn’t hold the weight? It seems to make sense since I’ve been hanging this weight range for around 2 years.

At 15 pounds, maybe. At 3… I really doubt it. Particularly after three years of it.

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While hanging, i was starting to get sharp pains along an inside the shaft that i ignored due to feeling it before but didn’t think too much of it. Im thinking i may have strained something, then it somehow got into the blood stream which caused a wild infection with an extreme fever.

Did you, at any time recently, have an "oopsie" while hanging, where you put a large and unexpected yank on things while hanging?

I don’t know if this is a medically valid comparison, but a few years ago I tripped over some construction material and jammed a leg really good. The next day it had swollen, my toes were turning black, and it hurt enough I dug some unused hydrocodone out of the refrigerator to hold me over until I could get to my doctor. He X-rayed it and poked at it, and said it was a "compartment fracture." Which isn’t the same as a ligament or muscle tear, but it causes internal bleeding and can turn worse than that. You might want to read up on it.

Other than being your dick instead of an arm or leg, the symptoms seem fairly similar, anyway.

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But what else could i do to keep it under tension so it doesn’t shrink? Silicone sleeve? Or should i just let it heal?

No to the sleeve; you want to avoid adhesions. That’s when two pieces of damaged tissue that are supposed to slide around to each other, grow to each other instead. Quite painful when it’s your penis. I’ve been there, done that, and described it in my rehab thread. Best to just forego the experience. "Not recommended."

Okay, if you’re too sore to use the vacuum cap, stick with massaging, Firegoat folls, and gentle stretching in different directions. Remember, you’re not doing "PE" here; you’re making sure tissues that are supposed to slide don’t grow together, helping flush fresh blood through, and flushing detritus from the infection out. You need to do that without causing more damage or aggravating healing.

If you have an NIR lamp, I’d use that, too.

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I did measure yesterday, size is around the same, maybe worse EQ too since erections are a little painful.

You’ll probably lose a quarter to half inch of length in "rebound"; non-cemented gains plus the usual retraction when there’s damage. But it will come back within a week or two after restarting PE, so don’t panic over what the ruler shows. Just log it and carry on.

In my experience, girth will remain the same or actually increase when there’s damage, at least when flaccid. I’m pretty sure that’s just the usual swelling from damage, and not related to normal size or PE gains. Like when your thumb swells when you hit it with a hammer.

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Im 20, my health is pretty good, fit and lift weights, eat clean daily. Not allergic to anything.

No problems there, then.


Last edited by AndyJ : 10-31-2023 at .

Originally Posted by AndyJ
Still at 1400 grams? That’s a tick over three pounds. That’s my limit before blistering with a vacuum attachment, due to previous damage not related to PE, but that’s low for hanging of any type.

I had the twinges in the shaft, but I’m pretty sure they were from internal adhesions and scar tissue breaking loose. I got them when pumping, too. I started hanging just to do that. Unless you had a nasty infection that resulted in scarring or a "sports injury", it wouldn’t have been related to your pains. I don’t recall anyone else mentioning anything about it. (anyone who did, please chime in!)

Yeah, I had that too, but same as the twinges.

At 15 pounds, maybe. At 3… I really doubt it. Particularly after three years of it.

Did you, at any time recently, have an "oopsie" while hanging, where you put a large and unexpected yank on things while hanging?

I don’t know if this is a medically valid comparison, but a few years ago I tripped over some construction material and jammed a leg really good. The next day it had swollen, my toes were turning black, and it hurt enough I dug some unused hydrocodone out of the refrigerator to hold me over until I could get to my doctor. He X-rayed it and poked at it, and said it was a "compartment fracture." Which isn’t the same as a ligament or muscle tear, but it causes internal bleeding and can turn worse than that. You might want to read up on it.

Other than being your dick instead of an arm or leg, the symptoms seem fairly similar, anyway.

No to the sleeve; you want to avoid adhesions. That’s when two pieces of damaged tissue that are supposed to slide around to each other, grow to each other instead. Quite painful when it’s your penis. I’ve been there, done that, and described it in my rehab thread. Best to just forego the experience. "Not recommended."

Okay, if you’re too sore to use the vacuum cap, stick with massaging, Firegoat folls, and gentle stretching in different directions. Remember, you’re not doing "PE" here; you’re making sure tissues that are supposed to slide don’t grow together, helping flush fresh blood through, and flushing detritus from the infection out. You need to do that without causing more damage or aggravating healing.

If you have an NIR lamp, I’d use that, too.

You’ll probably lose a quarter to half inch of length in "rebound"; non-cemented gains plus the usual retraction when there’s damage. But it will come back within a week or two after restarting PE, so don’t panic over what the ruler shows. Just log it and carry on.

In my experience, girth will remain the same or actually increase when there’s damage, at least when flaccid. I’m pretty sure that’s just the usual swelling from damage, and not related to normal size or PE gains. Like when your thumb swells when you hit it with a hammer.

No problems there, then.


I appreciate your response, theyre incredibly helpful. So thank you. What’s your opinion on pumping? Since I’m unable to fit anything around my glans at the moment. Some light pumping might get things back into shape or even get some blood pumping? Since things were swollen shut by my foreskin, my glans seems to have shrunk and hardened? Maybe pumping could be helpful but Id only value your opinion since your experience is far greater than mine


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