Yellow Bananas Intro to Chem PE

NYB,

this has piqued my interest because I’ve been stuck at the same stats for over a year now. I’m trying a NIR pad. I don’t want to blister, so I’d be leery about using it with dmso. If that rapid length gain you had at the beginning did cause your ligs to tighten up, do you think maybe using the dmso every other session might be a better approach? Might also give the skin some rest to heal before any potential breakdown.

Blistering can be avoided by washing off the DMSO and other topicals before hanging, I started doing this just before decon.
Also the DMSO is pretty harsh on my scrotum, not my balls, but the skin. Its sometimes slightly burns and causes my balls to sit high and tight which interferes with the hanging session.
But showering in a hot steamy shower will lower the balls again, that’s when i start hanging.

I dont particularly want to change how much i apply the DMSO. Reason is I had good gains at the start using 99.9% DMSO, so I would like to go back to that instead of using 70%. I want to test some other theories I have before changing too much. Just one thing at a time so I can know what causes the changes.

Alright guys, looks like this is the end of my Chem PE journey.

Ive been on decon for 2 and a half weeks now and my penis has shrunk in girth, and about a few millimeters in length. Erections are terrible, they feel as though my penis has become very "elastic" and is wanting to compress into its smaller flaccid state which stops the amount of blood it can hold. My penis in its flaccid state is small and stiff, i have heap of left over foreskin due to my shrunken flaccid length and girth. My bulge has dissapeared aswell.

My results are inconclusive, does DMSO help increase penis size? I’m not sure, I did randomly gain .5 inches in length after using it twice a day, but results slowed after 2 weeks.

I spoke to Kyrpa and told him my results and experience and he replied back with DMSO having a destructive effect on both healthy collagen and bad collagen. Which could explain my shrinking or more "elastic" penis. I will continue using magnesium oil and Lugols iodine, just without the DMSO. The PABA I will take orally from now on, like how its intended.

Final Results:
BPEL = 19cm
Unable to measure erect girth. (lost measuring tape)

Well, that sucks.

I still use PABA in my pump lube. Probably 95% of all the PABA ever made went into sunscreen lotions, so using it on skin is hardly unusual.

Bad Banana! BAD! [though mine successfully hid from me once, until the day after I bought a replacement]

So i made a fairly long update post, but it didnt post… So here we go again.

Turns out that having full 100% erections are impossible at the moment, something is very wrong with my dick. When i used a cock ring to have sex recently, the cock ring would keep me hard, i would always go to a semi after a few pumps. I noticed when i kegel blood in with the cock ring on, my glans and parts of my skin are white and pale, its as though blood isnt reaching to these points. If i kegel some more, i can visually see the blood underneath the skin fill and spread out to the white patches which then makes it the normal penis colour, although after some time the patches will come back as my erection lessens.

My symptoms are:
- Super rubbery feeling skin, it honestly feels like rubber
- Penis elasticity seems to have increased
- Really thin skin which looks white, its transparent and reveals the underneat blood vessels and veins (only shows after placing a cock ring on as i cant get hard with out it)
- Significantly decreases flaccid girth and length which causes a build up of foreskin
- Inability to have erections, even when getting sucked off.

So yeah, use DMSO at your own risk. All these symptoms occurred 5 days after decon which is when i suspect collagen and tissues to start healing. So my dick most’ve healed in a smaller state, which is always fun. In the cock ring though, my length feels longer than what it previously looked like in a cock ring.

I used DMSO+PABA a lot longer than you did. On the other hand, my penis was a raw mess of scar tissue and unhealed wounds, so I would hardly have noticed if I had any of the same effects. And I got significant gains later.

DMSO blends are also a go-to for the Peyronie’s guys, which is where I learned of it to start with.

Doing some clicking around, it looks like some people can have allergies to PABA. I would think that would be more likely than a problem with DMSO.

Either way, I expect you should recover in a couple-three weeks.

Since DMSO+PABA was unsatisfactory, what will you try next? Andujc90’s PRF injections? Ultrasound? FIR? Or just a traditional method for a while?

I doubt its an issue with PABA. DMSO breaks down collagen, its not only breaking down the scar tissue we want it to, but also breaking down the healthy collagen fibers that have been the reason for our gains. We cant get the DMSO to target specific tissues. It is strange though, I gained an incredible amount when using 99.9% DMSO when applying it twice a day before each hanging session and that’s when I gained my 0.5 inches. I might even have to try that again. I’m seeing a urologist very soon so he can tell me what’s happening with my dick.

For now, its just a regular routine to see if I can gain any further. If not, ill go back to using DMSO.

You might have run into one of those "good for so long, counterproductive after that" points.

If you restart, you might want to try 3 on/3 off or something, and adjust as EQ indicates.

Yeah that is a good idea, maybe even 5 on, 5 off. Or since i started seeing gains around the 7 day mark, i could do 7 on, 5 off. And do you think i should be hanging during the days of not using DMSO? Im thinking that if im causing the collagen and tissue to break up somewhat, then maybe letting it rest with no DMSO while hanging could make it heal in that lengthened state? Im not sure

If not hanging, at least an ADS. Why let it heal shorter than you have to?

I’m in the "keep it stretched" crowd.

So i ended up seeing the urologist. I mentioned my 3 year PE journey and he was familiar with it and questioned what methods i was using. He never told me to stop PE, all he said was that penis length is irrelevant to sex and that you can still have great sex with any size penis. He told me that he believes I have a venous leakage. He prescribed me with daily cialis at 5mg and told me to see him in 6 weeks time.

He was actually very welcoming and didn’t shun any of my PE routines, he also said that there has been no evidence or studies to show that PE causes venous leakages, but said it was something to keep in mind and to be aware of. Now that i remember, he even suggested using a cock ring, but i said ive used it and still had struggles keeping an erection. Now I’ve never used daily cialis, im a little worried itll cost me a shit load. My only experience would be viagra and that really helped. What am i to expect with cialis? Does it aid or help speed up girth work? Does it make my flaccid hang bigger?

For me Cialis provides a fuller flaccid hang and spontaneous erections throughout the day. It’s been an incredible boost in overall mood and confidence because of the effects.

Ive noticed that after hanging my BPFSL has decreased. I used to be able to pull straight past 20cm but now there is ALOT of resistance and maximum i can pull is 20cm. I may have to increase the hanging weight. But im not sure by how much, Ive just been trying to gain as much as possible with this weight but my strain has decreased. I guess its time for an increase.

I’m on 10mg twice a week. I see a mild boost in EQ with it. The prescription said "as needed"; that was the minimum dose I felt was useful.

Over time that has diminished, though in all honesty it might be more due to an increase in PE work instead of the taladafil not working as well. When I renew the prescription I’ll as kfor 5mg daily, which will be a modest bump up. The doc recommended that to start with, but I was happy with twice a week at the time.

I was hesitant to go with a larger dose, given several forum members with ED problems have mentioned taladafil and sildenafil worked for them for a few years, then didn’t do much any more. Whether it’s the drug losing efficacy as the body gets used to it, or if their ED got worse to the point where they couldn’t help is open to question.

The only side effect I’ve had is some fairly dramatic burping attacks, usually if I get up at night to pee. It turns out that’s not unusual. But I only get it about once a month, and though annoying, it’s not painful or anything.

+1 on the flaccid hang.

I’m not a turtler any more, but I’m still a grower, and the bigger flaccid makes it a lot easier to get the vacuum cap on for hanging or ADS. A bigger flaccid pays off in many ways.