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Penis extenders & septum

Here are some quotes from this thread from corded guys, cordless guys, and guys who seem unclear on what a cord is:

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NO CORD - guys too lucky to know what a “cord” is:

WestLA: “some guys swear it is causing them problems.”

ModestoMan: “its resistance the stretching is not really impressive.”

Marinera: “I do have a cord but I never thought it could be a limit to anything (…) Even if septum was your ‘limiting factor’, it wouldn’t make much sense pulling it (…) the idea that, generally speaking, septum is a limiting factor for many or most of people is just another PE myth (…) if one believes that actually this is true (septum as limiting factor for length gains) than it becomes a self-veryfieng profecy.”

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CORD - guys talking about how their cord takes ALL the stress of any stretch:

Soon2b9: “No matter what kind of stretch I do, this is the ONLY thing that takes any of the stress. It doesn’t matter if I try to hit the ligs, or the tunica, this thick cord that runs along the top is the only thing that takes any stress”

Meatplow: “When I hang BTC I get lig pull, but at all other angles this cord is definitely getting all the strain, and doesn’t feel like something that will break down and stretch.”

Nitefly: “when I stretch my penis, it’s restricted by what feels like a hard cord in the middle (…) All I know is, this hard cord (…) in the middle of my penis is what’s preventing it from stretching any further. So it just makes sense to stretch that first before the tunica can stretch at all (…) I think you might be missing the point of targeting the septum. My penis can stretch as far as the septum allows it to, no further. Whether its V or normal stretching. There’s physically no way of stretching any other part of the penis without first stretching the septum (…) feels like a very firm piece of rubber in the middle of the penis. So tough that it’s near impossible to stretch it? It’s much harder/firmer than anything else in the penis when stretching.”

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AMBIGUOUS CASES - guys who haven’t (yet) described the cord as clearly as others, or who seem to misunderstand what the cord is, or who may have mild cases:

Kojack10: “This is also the limiting factor in my penis that prevents it from stretching to a longer flaccid stretched length. To me, this is what we struggle to elongate. Everything else tags along and gets lengthened after this “cord”, or whatever you want to call it, becomes longer (…) This is the connective tissue in my penis that needs to be lengthened. Everything else will follow, in my opinion.”

***(FYP: kojack may be a lucky mild case, because “in my opinion” is an odd thing to say when you have a tough cord shorter than the rest of your dick taking all the stress of any stretch: there’s no question what has to get longer first: think of the 5 inch chain and the 6 inch nerf innertube again.)

Myquest: “I gained 1/2-3/4 inch fairly quickly, but as far as I can tell nothing measurable since. I have come to the conclusion that this anatomical structure (whatever it may be called) is my limiting factor.”

***(FYP: Strange to talk about coming to a “conclusion”: you either immediately feel this cord grow taut while the rest of your dick tissue stays slack when you stretch, or you don’t.)

dookie9: “Hey guys, I may be wrong, but is what is being referred to the seam or raphe that runs from the scrotum up to the glans?”

***(FYP: Nope - the cord’s on the top of the shaft.)

Djrobins: (quoting Marinera) “Imagine your penis as build like two bicycle inner tubes, connected together with a thicker tyre; would you pull on the thicker tyre to elongate the whole thing, or would you do the adverse?” (end quote)

You have to stretch that thicker tire, whether you are somehow getting heat into it, and using fulcrums up and down the entire length before there will be any appreciable stretch.

For many of us attempting to achieve significant growth in the tunica, it has to be done.

***(FYP: I’m not sure why DJ is talking about bike tires: 5-inch-chain/6-inch-nerf-innertube is what it feels like, it’s not ambiguous in the least - whatever causes it, you either feel it there, taking all the stretch, or you don’t.)

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CONFUSION ON BOTH SIDES - guys are reporting different things about their dicks: the only reason to argue about this is if you assume all dicks are the same: apparently, they’re not:

Nitefly: “It feels like we’re re-inventing the wheel here. I thought this was common knowledge? (…) The thicker harder tube is actually in the middle of the shaft, preventing anything else from stretching at all, including the tunica. I don’t know how else to explain it. I know what the pictures are saying and I understand the bicycle tube. My penis is however soft on the outside, with a hard cord in the middle. This cord is shorter or less expandable than the tunica so how can I stretch the tunica if the cord cannot physically stretch any further? This is not a vein. Am I an alien? I’m hoping others have the same as me and would speak up here.”

Marinera: “The ‘septum is limiting my gains’ is kinda an axiom never verified, so, maybe instead than reinventing a wheel that probably was never invented, probably we are disproving a myth.”

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ALL DISAGREEMENT AND SPECULATION ASIDE, POSSIBLY THE LAST WORD:

Dicko: “you still need to pull your dick, there no real difference in what you would do to get any other length gains.”

To be fair, Dicko may only have a mild case compared to some of us. But BTC/SD/fulcrum seem to be the only piece of cord-specific advice to crop up regularly (except for one reference to erect bends, presumably downwards).

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Once again, please take this poll:

Foryourprivacy - POLL: Tough cord on top of your dick taking all the stretch? (Septum? Dorsal thickeni

It’s not a nominalistic question, I think. If you do believe that septum is your limiting factor, than I can’t see a way to lengthen your penis than a surgery. If you realize what it actually is - probably the dorsal thickening of tunica - than you can see that is pretty a common thing. Best ways to hit the dorsal tunica IMO are downward hanging and mem’ stretch over a cylindrical object placed between your legs - search for ‘rapid gain mechanism’ thread.

Originally Posted by marinera
It’s not a nominalistic question, I think. If you do believe that septum is your limiting factor, than I can’t see a way to lengthen your penis than a surgery. If you realize what it actually is - probably the dorsal thickening of tunica - than you can see that is pretty a common thing. Best ways to hit the dorsal tunica IMO are downward hanging and mem’ stretch over a cylindrical object placed between your legs - search for ‘rapid gain mechanism’ thread.

We’re still not talking about the same thing, I think.

Belief has nothing to do with it: it’s a physical reality. Either this cord is the shortest part of your dick or it isn’t. For you, it doesn’t seem to be.

We probably all have the same body parts with the same names - but for some of us, based on these quoted reports, the septum/dorsal thickening/whatever seems to be harder/shorter/whatever.

I don’t see why it would be unstretchable apart from surgery. I just made the poll to see if it contributes to hard length gaining.

Ok you have discovered a new part in the human penis. :shrug:

Originally Posted by marinera
Ok you have discovered a new part in the human penis. :shrug:

Why is it impossible for different penises to have tougher/shorter parts than others?

Or are you saying you’ve always exclusively felt tension in this “cord” when stretching, yet have gained regardless? Based on your quotes, you don’t seem to know what we mean by “cord” (luckily for you).

I think the strategies for dealing with a relatively short cord have already been listed, but I don’t understand your denial of all these listed reports from different guys: we’re probably just describing an unusually tough dorsal thickening - possibly analogous to a harelip with the “gap” between the CCs filled in by tougher tunica tissue - but whatever the name of this piece of anatomy, we’re not making it up and it’s not a coincidence.

I’m not denying what you have. I’m saying that probably is the dorsal thickineng of tunica and that unlikely is the septum. Hope this is clear.

Originally Posted by marinera
I’m not denying what you have. I’m saying that probably is the dorsal thickineng of tunica and that unlikely is the septum. Hope this is clear.

Oh, fair enough: yeah, could be. Though it feels to me and Nitefly like the circled part, here:

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Anyway, I just thought you were saying we were hallucinating. Misunderstanding. :)

Found some answers:

Http://www.andrologyjournal.org/cgi…nt/25/3/426.pdf

A) dorsal and ventral thickening .yes, exists
B) septum, YES
C) ligament in glans penis, YES (see b)
“Medial aspect. The distal ligament is aggregated from the collagen bundles of the outer longitudinal layer of the tunica albuginea. It is an inelastic
Fibrous structure that forms the trunk of the glans penis.” This is the superficial component of the Septum penis.

This accounts for most of the comments I’ve seen on this thread so far.


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Originally Posted by Fantom
Found some answers:

Http://www.andrologyjournal.org/cgi…nt/25/3/426.pdf

A) dorsal and ventral thickening .yes, exists
B) septum, YES
C) ligament in glans penis, YES (see b)
“Medial aspect. The distal ligament is aggregated from the collagen bundles of the outer longitudinal layer of the tunica albuginea. It is an inelastic
Fibrous structure that forms the trunk of the glans penis.” This is the superficial component of the Septum penis.

This accounts for most of the comments I’ve seen on this thread so far.

“Medial aspect. The distal ligament is aggregated from the collagen bundles of the outer longitudinal layer of the tunica albuginea. It is an inelastic fibrous structure that forms the trunk of the glans penis. The incomplete septum is dorsally fenestrated.
(pag. 5)

“The dorsal thickening of tunica albuginea become consspicuous because these ischiocavernosus muscle fibers have joined it.
Progressing distally, the dorsal thickening becomes prominent and is grouped into the glans penis to form the distal ligament (asterisk).”
pag. 3
So
1) there isn’t any ligament that runs from the base to the tip of the penis;
2) septum and distal ligament are two different things;
3) septum is incomplete and there isn’t any evidence that is hardly stretchable;
4) the inelastic part is the one who forms the trunk of the penis. It is inelastic for a reason, it is a small part, and hardly it can limit that much length gains.

Whatever the name for the cord is, the interesting thing to me was how different guys seem to report different experiences with it, suggesting that it may be a big length gain inhibitor.

I’m beginning to feel like an extender would be a good way for me to attempt to lengthen this cord.

I can use a fixed amount of force, and I can use it every day. Those two variables would be solved for me. Consistency would seem that last remaining variable, and that would be my responsibility.

What do you guys think? I can’t seem to nail down the right amount of force or frequency for manual exercises (or have faith in what is recommended).


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NiteFly69 I only read the first page of this thread but I know exactly what you’re talking about. For some months into my PE career I had just assumed that all penises had this ‘cord’ thing. But then I tried looking into it and found that this was not the case. I found some information which lead me to believe that it was the septum that I could feel.

If the septum is ‘well-documented’ I failed to find such information in my searches. In fact I find it very difficult to get any useful information at all, since it appears to me that it’s a physiological parameter that is rarely a concern with PEer. A short or tight septum then appears to be very uncommon which might cause some to question it’s existence in the realm of being important in PE.

Anyway, after months of using an extender AND the newbie routine I had gained nothing. Since adapting my routine to targeting the septum I’ve gained over half an inch in EL.

I think that I kind of have this cord. I can feel something harder in my penis when I stretch. But it doesn’t seem to be limiting my stretches

Septum

Originally Posted by Tweaking
NiteFly69 I only read the first page of this thread but I know exactly what you’re talking about. For some months into my PE career I had just assumed that all penises had this ‘cord’ thing. But then I tried looking into it and found that this was not the case. I found some information which lead me to believe that it was the septum that I could feel.

If the septum is ‘well-documented’ I failed to find such information in my searches. In fact I find it very difficult to get any useful information at all, since it appears to me that it’s a physiological parameter that is rarely a concern with PEer. A short or tight septum then appears to be very uncommon which might cause some to question it’s existence in the realm of being important in PE.

Anyway, after months of using an extender AND the newbie routine I had gained nothing. Since adapting my routine to targeting the septum I’ve gained over half an inch in EL.



Tweaking,I originally thought that was the raphe, but with further exploration I’ve found the cord. It runs from the base to the glans. Must be connected with the dorsal nerve in some way, as I’m really sensitive at the glans connection.Which is good.
I’ve got a slight upward curve at the end of my dick, and I’m wondering if this cord has something to do with it.
What exercise are you doing to target the septum? Inquiring minds want more dick.lol!!!


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