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Veins and Gains

I’ve been wondering something recently and wanted some opinions. I know it’s believed that doing PE increases circulation and leads to prominent veins, and that some consider a veiny dick to be one that has been worked well and gained well. So what do you think would be the standing of a naturally veiny penis? What I mean is do you think there is some kind of a relationship between existing natural vascularity and ease of gains? Is it possible that a naturally veiny penis will already have great circulation and not gain very easily, or perhaps gain even more because the limits can be pushed even further?


Start (6/23/04): 7.25 BPEL X 4.75 EG As of (7/12/05): 8.00" BPEL X 5.00" EG Midshaft (5.25 base) Short Term Goal: 8.0 BPEL X 5.25 EG Midshaft Long Term Goal : 8.5 BPEL X 6.0 EG

hyyprr

I never really thought about it if people who had veiny dicks before PE had healthier dicks, I know my dick wasn’t veiny and now it is and gains are a lot harder to get. But maybe some other guys who had veiny dicks would answer.


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For what it’s worth, I was very smooth-shafted before PE. Just one vein showing. Now a whole lot of them and I gained size, too. I doubt there is a correlation between gain potiential and degree of veinyness. But I do think there is one between good erectile response and increased capacity to deliver arterial blood. Thicker arteries = faster erections that last longer.


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avocet8

I had one noticeable vein before, now I have a few that are more prominent. I gained very well in the beginning, and just now seemed to have busted a plateau and am beginning new gains. I’m not sure if there is a correlation other than more veins would probably help keep your unit warmer and in a better extended flaccid state which I have noticed also. This would probably help in the healing process I believe.

However aren’t these more so just skin veins? I don’t think the blood goes to the erectile tissue, at least not directly from these veins, but probably from more blood in the genital region it would benefit.


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I believe there is definitely something to your theory. I think that somewhere I suggested a similar theory that dealt with strength of erections rather than prominence of veins, but I think there is a strong correlation between all three.

With weak erections there is not enough blood pressure to cause veins to stand out very much. Similarly veins in your arms become much more prominent during or after a arm workout. The veins are always around but only when blood pressure is way up do they stand out.

If you have very strong erections and a lot of almost bursting veins then your tunica is filled to capacity. Gains will come from the slow process of actually stretching the tissue so that you can fit more blood inside.

Before I started PE I had a lot of visible veins popping out of my dick. Gains, especially girth, are coming very slowly. I think the only length gains have come from ligament stretching.

I think that people who begin PE with weak erections, and therefore fewer visible veins, realize gains without actually enlarging any tissue. Their improved erections are able to fill their dicks to the capacity that they had all along.

Often people comment on their erections becoming much stronger when they are first starting PE. The difference in 90% erect and 100% erect is quire a bit on the measuring tape for me.

It is my opinion that many fast gainers are simply learning how to get a real erection and therefore just reclaiming what they already have instead of “actually” gaining. I put that in quotes because whenever your dick grows it’s gaining even if there is no physical change other than increased blood pressure. This also provides an answer to why gains slow for fast gainers and are always slow for other people.

To input my own personal experience. I’m a younger, very active guy with a pretty veiny dick upon starting PE. My erections were always very hard, and the tunica seemed to be packed with blood. I also started with a very low LOT.

Despite all of this, I have received some very good gains in the month and 3 days I have been PEing. I don’t know what lies in my future, after these “newbie’ gains, but I do know that I gained just under .5” BP length in that short time. I’ve also gained .2” in girth. Just to enter the personal experience of a guy who started with a semi veiny dick. I hope that this trend of growth continues. Although I’m not naive enough to expect an increase of .5 x .2 per month.

Dammit, you are going against our theory.

Actually I had some quick gains at the start also; not quite as much as JoeCool, but since then it has been very slow but steady.

I also started with a naturally veiny dick. I think I’ve always had good erect circulation, although flaccid was a different story. I have experienced some good initial gains as you can see in my signature. I think if anything, the existence of natural vascularity might make girth gains come somewhat slowly. I can’t really draw many conclusions because at least for me some other variables are involved, such as a bend and the engorgement of my CS.

I think gains, especially girth gains, probably come in a two stage process. For the first two to three months, most of the gains many people see are probably due to increased circulation. Then after this time the gains become dependent on actually stretching the tissue of the CC. I think that people that start out with good circulation (I’m saying that good circulation = prominent veins which might be a false premise to begin with), will not be getting much gains from increased blood flow but only from tissue expansion, which is most likely slower. This is just my theory and I’m hoping both people who started with big veins and those who didn’t could tell their rate of gains, both at the beginning and afterwards.


Start (6/23/04): 7.25 BPEL X 4.75 EG As of (7/12/05): 8.00" BPEL X 5.00" EG Midshaft (5.25 base) Short Term Goal: 8.0 BPEL X 5.25 EG Midshaft Long Term Goal : 8.5 BPEL X 6.0 EG

I have smooth dick, just one big vein showing. After just veek of PEing Im occasionally able to pull an erection where I see a lot more veins than before. If this means Im able to gain quicker, great. My LOT tells me otherwise so Id really enjoy positive news.

But even if that wasnt true, Ill be aiming for those bulky veins. I purchased an adjustable cockring, just to try the effects of veins and “bumpier” surface on my GF. The diffrence was phenomenal, Its well worth it, even if veins are the only thing I get from PEing!

hyyprr, in your last post you said the exact same thing that I have been thinking.

Originally Posted by baddass
I think that people who begin PE with weak erections, and therefore fewer visible veins, realize gains without actually enlarging any tissue. Their improved erections are able to fill their dicks to the capacity that they had all along.

Often people comment on their erections becoming much stronger when they are first starting PE. The difference in 90% erect and 100% erect is quire a bit on the measuring tape for me.

It is my opinion that many fast gainers are simply learning how to get a real erection and therefore just reclaiming what they already have instead of “actually” gaining. I put that in quotes because whenever your dick grows it’s gaining even if there is no physical change other than increased blood pressure. This also provides an answer to why gains slow for fast gainers and are always slow for other people.

Also, in my first post ever (6 weeks until total destruction (of gf’s pussy)) I suggested this theory but nobody really commented on it. I really think there is something to this. Lets work on coming up with a poll.

Originally Posted by ThunderSS
It’s old news baddass, nothing new to comment on.

Damn, this whole time I have been wondering why I didn’t get the initial fast gains that many speak of. Thanks for bursting our bubble. At least you saved the effort of conducting a poll that we already know the answer to.

Does anyone know the reason behind this? Why more visible veins indicate slower gains?

Also, does deconditioning or stopping PE bring a loss of these “new” veins?

I don’t mean to contradict anyone, but I just reiterating a point. For any guys out there who are starting off very veiny, I was the same way, and I still experienced fast gains. The first week, it shot up in size. Then there was a slow period for three weeks. In the last week and a half, things picked up again very quickly. I am just telling those of you just starting out with veiny dicks not to be discouraged or assume a slow growth rate. You simply have to hope for the best and keep at it. If you assume that your veiny dick will progress slowly, it will. PE is very much a mental thing. Like I said before, I’m not trying to contradict or belittle anyone’s theories, but my veiny dick increased .5” x .2” in a little over a month, so don’t be discouraged.

I think it has more to do with a healthy dick and a slightly less than healthy dick. Also a lot of quick newbie gains could possibly be caused by incorrect measuring in the beginning. Don’t put a lot of faith in a “I have a veiny dick so I am not going to gain” theory. If you do, you are only shooting yourself in the ass before you start. For every rule or theory, there are exceptions.

Notice that a lot of the older guys report “reclaiming lost size” when they start PE.


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