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Q4L's 3 Year PE Anniversary - Still no gains to report

I’m not going to read all 120 responses. I don’t think I can say much that hasn’t been said already, but I feel for you man. Don’t give up and keep trying. There must be something that will work for you.

Originally Posted by quik4life
March 2008 marks my 3 year anniversary with PE. I started consistent PE with a measurement of 5.75 BPEL and 4.25 EG in March of 2005. As of March 2008, I have no gains to report. I’m 5’6”, 155 lbs, a very healthy eater, I workout 5-6 days a week with weights and HIIT running and am 25 years old. Like most Newbies, I had a vision in my mind, that after 3 years of dedication to the art of PE, I would have a cock that I would be proud of.

My Struggle

I found out about PE back in March of 2001. I paid for a membership to a pay site and started their “Beginner Workout.” After two months of not knowing how to perform the exercises properly and not seeing any gains, I gave up. I watched a lot of porn (and continue to do so) and always wanted a huge cock (or even one that’s just slightly above average). At this time, I concluded that PE was probably a scam, just like those enlargement pills. Yet, in the back of my mind, I kept thinking that there had to be a way to increase the size of my unit. Then, I found Thundersplace and thought I found the Holy Grail itself – thousands of guys obsessed and insecure with the size of their dicks (both big and small) AND they were proving that PE does work.

I have tried countless routines, devices and variations. I’ve tried the Newbie Routine, hanging (vacuum and the Bib), clamping (cable clamps, air clamp, adjustable cockrings), extenders, pumping, etc. I’ve tried dry jelqing, wet jelqing, Horse 440s, JAI stretches, inverted V stretches, Memento’s Rapid Gain Mechanism Routine, O-Bends, etc. I’ve tried IPR routines, the Peter Dick routine, less is more routines, more is more routines…EVERYTHING!

Day in and day out, I would read as much as I can about PE and what has worked for others. I received advice from some of PE’s best – remek, xenolith, kingpole, babbis, Pud, Monty530, sparkyx, ModestoMan, Peter Dick, Shiver, MX, Iguana, gprent, peforeal, Krowax, avocet8, mbuc, drilla9, Vincent Van Cock, Endow, Big Girth, memento, Bib and even YGuy. Although I have not attained any physical PE gains, I would still like to thank all these members (and other members whom I have forgotten) for their advice. I would see Newbies come and go, and members posting of what great gains they were getting. I would go through cycles of determination and cycles of depression. Whenever someone suggested something that I haven’t tried before, I would get excited thinking “This is it!! This will get me gains!” But after being consistent and following their advice, only to discover I hadn’t gained anything, I would slip back into depression. The depression seems to get worse and worse each time that I slip back into it. I don’t know how much more I can take – I can’t keep setting myself up for disappointment.

What I have learned

Although I didn’t gain anything physical from PE, I do feel that I have grown as a person. I have learned many things throughout my PE journey. The first is friendship. I feel glad to be part of a community (both Thunders and the PE Gym). I can’t think of any other place like them. It’s truly amazing to see that I am not alone in my insecurity about my size, my bouts of depression, etc. I feel honored to be part of this “secret” club. Everyday we put on masks, consciously or subconsciously, yet, here, I feel as though I can ALWAYS be myself. For this alone, I am truly grateful.

I have had the priviledge of seeing PE theories being developed and put to use. Bib’s LOT Theory, Big Girtha’s “Never Let It Turtle” Theory, Xenolith’s (with Shiver and MX) IPR Theory, remek’s Smooth Muscle Theory and countless others. I truly believe that one day we will develop this science of PE into a true artform, where everyone can achieve their desired goal.

I learned a lot about myself. For one, my total posts after 3 years is just under 1000. This is not to say that I don’t like to help others, but the majority of my time is consumed by reading posts, both old and new, over and over again. I feel as though I have a wealth of PE knowledge loaded in my brain – I guess I should focus on application a little bit better so that I can put it to use and get some gains myself! Secondly, I didn’t realize how much dedication and tenacity I had. Usually, if I’m not good at something, I give up quite easily. I usually lose interest in things after about a month or so, especially if I don’t see results (keep in mind that PE is the exception – I have been on PE routines that have lasted longer than 3 months). I guess this tells you how badly I want PE gains.

My Plea

My brain is on PE overload. I’m depressed and I’m…tired. I created this thread for a couple of reasons. For one, I wanted to ensure Newbies that although I haven’t gained, that PE is REAL. Secondly, I need advice and encouragement. I think I’m reaching rock bottom with PE and feel as though I only have a couple “cycles” in me left before I completely give up. There is only so much time a logical person can put into something and not be getting any results from, right? So, should I go back to the Newbie Routine? Should I do an exclusive stretching routine? Unfortunately I don’t have the privacy to hang or pump anymore. Or, should I just give up entirely? WHAT SHOULD I DO?!?!


PS - This has been a very difficult post for me to write. I know this post may come across as discouraging toward Newbies or even intermediate PEers who are struggling with gains. That’s not what this post was set out to accomplish. I just wanted a post that culminated my 3 years of PE, and to include my frustrations, thoughts and feelings toward my past and future PE journey.

It seems to me that the long amount of unyielding PE time that you’ve undertaken is indicative of a problem with your technique.

It’s up to you to figure that out, unless someone is willing to come over to your house, take hold of your dick and literally show you how to perform each exercise…

Whats the update on quik4life’s progress really curious he said he would post at the end of the summer.. Well were getting to the end of summer and my curiosity is flaring.

I think that was last summer

Originally Posted by Mr. Schlong

Maybe I just didn’t have the time or patience today to read through everything, but from what I have read you do not hang? Man, I’m in no way trying to rub your face in it, but I bet if you got yourself a Bib you would see gains. I gained an inch in 4 months - all from hanging. Fill me in if I’ve overlooked the obvious like an injury or something that doesn’t permit you to hang.

Nah he said in his original post that he did try with a Bib.

I’d like to know his progress too.

Goal: Any visible increase in size, so I can lay my doubts to rest.

what has quik4life done wrong that he got no gains? if PE works, then why hasn’t he gained? if it does not work for everyone, what factors make somebody part of the not working category?

Even though you have not gained any physical gains you are inspiring and pointing out that this site helps people with confidence and knowledge no matter what thanks for the heart felt post.

anyone has answer to my question

it is not beyond PE I will try to write you something. Beside me and my wife I have more than three of friend who wants to have baby. Although we spent more than a year at the doctors. We couldn’t get baby. I said to my wife that “do not think about baby too much, forget everything whatever you dreamed about baby. I was thinking that it is psychological” We will think about baby next year so don’t think baby this year” . But in a two week she said me that she is pregnant. Also some of my friends have this problem and they had baby same way as me. I know maybe both problem are not same but I want to mean that sometimes our brain is stopping our body if we want something more than necessary. IMO try to get a rest than do PE for hobby or just do it for to have good erection quality. I am sure if you can be relax you will gain.

Begining At 11.05.09: El 6.0" Eg 4.92"

Short Term Goal : El 6.5" Eg 5.2"

Long Term Goal : El 7.5" Eg 6.0"

Ok but does anyone have a real answer?


Wow, give me another year of gaining nothing, and I’ll be able to say the same thing.

Ah there must be a common connection amongst us “no gainers.” Hell if I know…basically done trying to figure it out too.



I think this thread is very relevant to the forum


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