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Length will always rule.


Length will always rule.

I haven’t been PE-ing for about 8 months now and I’ve lost some but I’m still larger then when I started. My problem has always been length. I range between 6.25-6.4 NBPEL and 6.75 - 6.9BPEL. My MEG is about 5.825 which is nearly an inch above the average. The thing is I feel small. To the point I haven’t had sex(other then an occasional hook up with my ex) in about a year and a half. I’m turning down a lot of hot chicks and now it’s frustrating. And it all comes from my insecurity over length. Length dominates my thoughts on a big dick. Even though it seems as though girls would prefer girth. I know I would think I had a big dick if I could take my girth and make it average and add it too the length. So that would give me about a 7.25NBPEL x 5.0EG dick. I would feel comfortable and even proud of it. And I know I have even bigger volume at my current size. I feel like girls talk more about length then girth. Cause when they talk to their friends when asked about dick size they almost always show in terms of length. Maybe the insecurity is fueled by the fact that a thicker dick alot of time makes it look shorter. Mine looks shorter then average to me. I don’t know how to mentally get over that length is everything. Girth to me is an afterthought. Any way to get over this?

Btw, it’s not just about my length at max. I find that when I’m with someone I can’t get maximum erection so that’s what bothers me most. I guess it’s nerves. If I could always get a hard 6.4NBPEL I’d feel a bit more comfortable.

Pre-PE: BPEL 6.25" NBPEL 5.8" EG 5.75 " Now: BPEL 7" NBPEL 6.5" EG 5.95"

Final goal: BPEL 7.5" NBPEL 7" EG 6"

Women do talk a lot about length but not because it feels good to them. They focus on it because it looks impressive. Girth is honestly where it’s at. The more you can stretch a pussy the better it will feel for the girl and your girth my friend is just short of my goal.

Most guys would choose the dick you have know instead of the one you want.

Even more girls want your dick instead of the one you want.

BPEL: 7.25"

HG: ~6.25" | MEG:6.25" | Low shaft EG:6.5" | BG: 7"

I would have to agree with you that a thicker dick does appear shorter than the same length dick but thinner. On the flipside your dick probably looks like a tank with that girth. You have a nice unit man, don’t let it be a negative thing.

I understand that being thicker makes you look shorter but you are almost certainly in the top 25% of men in terms of length and above 90% in terms of girth so I think that qualifies as big.

Being thicker will make you look shorter in “pictures”

But in reality when we are used to how things work in 3d, it will look huge.
Pictures can cause an illusion, reality is more accurate, since you have surroundings to compare the size to.

If you want to have length for girls to talk about you, etc., all you need to do is change how you think.

Is PE about us satisfying our woman to the maximum, or being “talked about” in locker rooms and at slumber parties? ( I think, the former )

Women want to feel “full” during intercourse, and being that the vagina is “potential” space, a 4” girth penis can do the trick.

Dude, you have 5.8” + in Girth. Your dick is VERY LARGE right now!! How YOU perceive it, is YOUR issue.

I think you are doing yourself a disservice feeling insecure about your tool. Hell, read up on all of the other “things” that make a woman happy sexually, and your large unit will simply be a bonus.

Google “penis length vs penis girth”, and see what the ladies say about it. I think you already know what you’ll read.

Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

I got that 7x5 you want. I’d do anything for your girth. You have awesome girth and you’re above average in length. Sounds pretty good.

Yeah, I’d trade with you.

Started: 7-01-05 BPEL 6.50 in NBP 6.00 EG 4.75 in Now: BPEL 7.5 in NBP 7.0 EG 5 inch (midshaft) Goal: Girth!!

I am 7.5x5 and if I had the choice, I would trade half an inch of my length with my girth. Without even thinking for a second.

04.27.2009: 6 x 4.5 (BP)

12.01.2009: 7.5 x 5 (BP)

Did I mention they are flaccid measurments?...Kidding! :p

If you had the length instead, you would have written the same post about girth. We all want what we don’t have. It’s human nature. Listen to the guys above; be very happy with what you have already.

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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Pleasing a woman sexually is about paying attention to her long before physical sex. The way you talk to her and attend to her needs stimulates her way more that your perception of penis size.

Girls in in a strip bar will be looking at size and getting cranked, but between the sheets thier needs are different. A girl will sleep with you long before she sees what you have, and she will make whatever you have work, especially if you are confident.

You have been cutting yourself off from a lot of pleasure for yourself and for the women you haven`t been sleeping with because you assumed a woman`s perception of your dick was like yours.


She wants you to be good with what you have.

Thanks for the responses. I know I should feel better about it. I remember before I started PE I thought I’d be completely happy if I knew I was just average in length. So I wanted a goal of 6.4”NBPEL cause that was the highest survey I saw(and was self measurement). But that did nothing to making me feel better. When I look down at it, it just looks so damn short. And because my new goal was to be considered “big” when it comes to length. So I’m not satisfied. And even though I got up to a little over 7.25”BPEL I stalled there for the longest time and don’t think there’s more to gain. I don’t think I’ll reach my goal. I’m just discouraged that my insecurities will keep me away from fun. Sucks having to fight through the mental side of things. I just wish I could be comfortable with what I have.

Pre-PE: BPEL 6.25" NBPEL 5.8" EG 5.75 " Now: BPEL 7" NBPEL 6.5" EG 5.95"

Final goal: BPEL 7.5" NBPEL 7" EG 6"

I know this really bothers you because I am the same way when it comes to not being satisfied unless “it’s perfect.”. However, like everyone said you are way above average in size and I too would love to gain in girth. This really isn’t an issue of you needing more length because if you had that the issue might be that you feel you don’t last long enough or shoot far enough. I would suggest you look at the really great post on true averages somewhere here on thunders and get that you are way above average. Women say length and size but honestly they are referring to girth. I guarantee whatever girl you are sleeping with is telling her friends that you are like 8 inches or more. That’s because you are measuring with a ruler and she is measuring by feel.


If I were you, then I’d focus on getting your self-confidence 100% bulletproof rather than making your penis longer or bigger. The truth is: Do women like a larger dick? Yea, more than likely they do. But they rather you be confident and proficient with what you have, as opposed to being down on yourself for what you don’t have. Confidence trumps penis size for a chick more often than not. Work on developing a positive self-image, then you’ll realize PE doesn’t matter.

Start (NBPEL: 8.0 in.)(BPEL: 8.5 in.)(EG: 5.0 in.)(NBFL: 4.5)(BPFSL: 7.5 in.)(NBPFSL: 7.0 in.)(FG: 4.6 in.)

Current (NBPEL: 8.0 in.)(BPEL: 8.5 in.)(EG: 5.0 in.)(NBFL: 4.5)(BPFSL: 7.5 in.)(NBPFSL: 7.0 in.)(FG: 4.6 in.)

Goal (NBPEL: >= 9.5 in.)(EG: >= 7.5)(NBFL: >= 7.0)(FG: >= 5.5) The way I see it: heck, why not be bigger? Blame it on my Ego - I'm greedy, I'm a dreamer.

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