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Erectile Dysfunction at 25, please help

Originally Posted by MetaMorpho

Maybe I’m missing something because I can’t masturbate without a good hard on. Poleaxe, are you able to masturbate? I know you said you’ve gone without sex for over 2 years. I doubt you meant self sex included. The mind can do funny things to a person. After having left the post earlier I had the dick go limp inside my wife within 2 minutes of penetration. I could not get it back up. I got my wife off and left myself semi-satisfied. What went on in my head I don’t know but it hasn’t been that bad in months. (I probably have buried some of the past again instead of leaving it out and dealing with it. I’m sure I’ll get my junk straight tomorrow and have a great tumble with her. I just want you to know that there are plenty of people out there with ED and a lot of reasons for it. Keep in mind that African vacation. That was a good sign.

Oh no, I hope I’m not somehow spreading this problem via cyberspace! I can still masturbate, but it is never a good hard on. I haven’t lost any sensation, so I can still reach the point of ejaculating. Of course, with only a 60% erection or so (at best), it isn’t as satisfying an experience as it should be.

Originally Posted by tanjince
It’s just like a girl to create a problem where there is none.

Amen to that mate!

Originally Posted by tanjince
Also, and I’m sure that this is discussed somewhere else on this forum but I’m new and I haven’t read it, but are you taking propecia or proscar by chance? I have been on propecia for over 10 years now without noticing any side effects but a lot of men report ED and loss of libido from the drug,

Never taken it, my hair seems to be mostly staying put . . For now!

Originally Posted by bluray
I was going to write you a long reply, since I am 25 and have fought a battle with ED problems, but I decided to just give the short and simple reply.

I had a very limp cock until I started doing jelqs, so make sure you are performing those regularly. Also give up looking at porn and all sexy pictures, and give up masturbating for pleasure completely.
If you keep your eyes and thoughts off of sexy pictures for a long period, when you finally get with a girl and see any of her body, you will have an uncontrollable erection and desire. This is my secret weapon and it allows me to enjoy sexual things almost as much as I did when I was 13.

I set the rule that I would only masturbate if it was for the purpose of PE and stop the moment it was no longer necessary to perform my PE routines, which works well, but I always find it a struggle to control myself once I start masturbating for any reason.
I have just switched my PE routine to pumping and jelqs only for the purpose of having maximum EQ and horniness. I was clamping before which required me to stimulate myself too much so I dropped it since I could do a pumping routine and never have to masturbate. For jelqs I only have to stimulate myself for a brief second and then jelq, which is not too bad.

Through my efforts I have went from being able to look at the most hardcore pornography and not getting an erection, to just poking my cock and it starts to fill with blood.
I also try to limit my sexual encounters with females, instead of having sex 5 times every day with my girl friend and getting bored mentally. It is tough for me, but when I think about how rewarding it is to control myself I gain the will power to resist.

You should also do the obvious, which is eat real food and stay physically fit, as well as getting enough sleep and sunlight every day.
Another recommendation that I just remembered is if you are circumcised by the modern Periah method, do foreskin restoration a bit or find a synthetic solution. This helps as well, I have used Glad Press n’ Seal Wrap for this before and it worked, but I mostly use a silicone sleeve that I cut to cover just my glans.
I make sure to not let the synthetic foreskin hang over the end of my glans though so I am still like someone who is circumcised, I do not want to break the commandment to be circumcised from the scriptures so I do this to be safe.


Appreciate the advice bluray, good to know I’m not the only one. At the moment, my difficulty with jelqs is maintaining the required erection level. I’ll end up spending nearly half of the allotted jelqing time just getting the necessary hardness back after a dozen or so jelqs.
Your ‘secret weapon’ sounds logical, and the consensus from other posters seems to be along similar lines: ditch the porn and stop masturbating, but continue PE. I will be sure to try this. Have to say I do find it odd that I’ve been viewing porn and masturbating for more than ten years and yet only had this problem relatively recently though.
As it happens I am one of those rare guys who was circumcised as a kid purely for medical reasons. Not sure I understand how the synthetic foreskin works though, what’s the reason for it?

Originally Posted by 7incher
Heavy porn and masturbation can lead to this check this site yourbrainonporn.com

This site is really interesting, but at first glance it’s hard to tell how much is backed up by scientific evidence and how much is hearsay and broscience. I’m more than willing to try abstaining from porn and masturbation though, it’s far cheaper than ED meds and if it works I’ll be over the moon!

Lay Off The Porn and Masturbation

Originally Posted by poleaxe

Oh no, I hope I’m not somehow spreading this problem via cyberspace! I can still masturbate, but it is never a good hard on. I haven’t lost any sensation, so I can still reach the point of ejaculating. Of course, with only a 60% erection or so (at best), it isn’t as satisfying an experience as it should be.

It’s good to know you can still masturbate & have an orgasm. I’ve masturbated just about every day of my life. It becomes impossible to fuck when your erection disappears so at your age you should try going without the masturbation and see if it helps. Myself … My age and the fact that I have to take blood pressure lowering drugs means it is not something I can’t cure. I am working on reducing the blood pressure medication as it reduces my pulse and I have to really work at the gym to get my pulse up to 110 beats per minute. I’m just one of those old guys who sees life flying past and wants to make sure his wife is well fucked. (By me) Good luck with the ED and hope you can get you junk straight and find a good woman to pound.


Pre-PE 11/11 BPEL 5.9 EG 5.3

Started PE: 3/12 BPEL 6.0 EG 5.6 * Current: BPEL 7.0 EG 5.9 BPSL 7.4 Nut Lgth 2.5" * Goal: BPEL 7.3 EG 6.3 BPSL 8.00

Mind over matter. All of life is transitional.

I still say take just 1 week off from your weight training and judo. It is common practice for weight lifters to take a short break and let their body fully recover.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/zaino4.htm

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In my experiences over the years I have been training, taking a total week off from the gym has been a major contribution to my longevity and constant progress in bodybuilding and health in general.
By: Chris Zaino
Jan 02, 2003

Day in, day out, training hard, doing that cardio! 3 days on/ 1 off, 4 days on/ 2 off, etc… Whatever your routine may be, consistency is the key to any exercise program. Training hard, cardiovascular exercise, and diet are major factors of the equation to get the body and health benefits you want. One major factor that is often forgotten is RECOVERY! Recovery is vital for the body to continue making progress, whether it is muscle gain, fat loss, or both. Not only do we have to recover physically from one work out to the next, but also mentally. Even though we take days off from the gym a couple times a week, after weeks and weeks of pounding our bodies, we may require more than one or two days. That is why the training technique, or should I say “non” training technique, of taking a week off can be what your body needs to break your plateaus and spark your body into better gains and faster progress.
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The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.


Last edited by gprent : 03-19-2012 at .

poleaxe,

I have a little experience in this area…

1) Could you please list every different type of food and drink you have in one week. Not the quantities, just the different types.

2) Please state how many times you ejaculate each week.

One other thing I noticed is that you got better on a climbing holiday. During vertical ascent, you are exercising and stretching different muscles. So it could be that your piriformis and/or psoas group is tight, and that climbing helped. There are many exercises on the net that deal with these. Start slow.

Some people have had benifit from this exercise:
My quest for PE knowledge - with conclusion!

Heed the warnings to take it slow. Bottom line - you can win if you want to.


I'm fed up of having a signature!

Originally Posted by poleaxe

Appreciate the advice bluray, good to know I’m not the only one. At the moment, my difficulty with jelqs is maintaining the required erection level. I’ll end up spending nearly half of the allotted jelqing time just getting the necessary hardness back after a dozen or so jelqs.

Your ‘secret weapon’ sounds logical, and the consensus from other posters seems to be along similar lines: ditch the porn and stop masturbating, but continue PE. I will be sure to try this. Have to say I do find it odd that I’ve been viewing porn and masturbating for more than ten years and yet only had this problem relatively recently though.

As it happens I am one of those rare guys who was circumcised as a kid purely for medical reasons. Not sure I understand how the synthetic foreskin works though, what’s the reason for it?

Maybe I’ve been riding the edge of the porn addiction. I’m going to take the same advice because I know the rational and their is that rat experiment that sticks in my brain. (Joking about porn and how it fries your brain. Maybe not so funny?) I’m going to abstain from all porn and masturbation to see how it affects my recurring ED. Maybe that’s what the connection is with your Africa vacation. No porn and when you got home? Things quickly went South again?

Good luck and try to post/share the results. For now I continue to jelq and hope to complete my working model of the Chicken Choker 03 tonight. So I will be able to start hanging before I get my stretcher device built as I need to get a few minor parts for that yet. Again. Good luck with PE.


Pre-PE 11/11 BPEL 5.9 EG 5.3

Started PE: 3/12 BPEL 6.0 EG 5.6 * Current: BPEL 7.0 EG 5.9 BPSL 7.4 Nut Lgth 2.5" * Goal: BPEL 7.3 EG 6.3 BPSL 8.00

Mind over matter. All of life is transitional.

Originally Posted by marky777
1) Could you please list every different type of food and drink you have in one week. Not the quantities, just the different types.


Okay, Food: Wholegrain breakfast cereal, Mass gain powder made with whey protein, oatmeal, bananas, apples, oranges, tuna, pasta, soya yogurts, unsalted mixed nuts, wholegrain bread, peanut butter, jam (jelly), potatoes, pork sausages, vegetables, rice (white & brown), curried chicken, salmon fillet, breaded cod, chips (as in fries).
Drink: Water, tea, coffee, beer, whisky, lactose-free milk

Originally Posted by marky777
2) Please state how many times you ejaculate each week.


4-7 times a week on average.

Originally Posted by marky777
One other thing I noticed is that you got better on a climbing holiday. During vertical ascent, you are exercising and stretching different muscles. So it could be that your piriformis and/or psoas group is tight, and that climbing helped. There are many exercises on the net that deal with these. Start slow.


It was mostly just slow walking to be honest, the reason so many people climb Kilimanjaro is that despite it’s height there is no technical skill needed, I.e hardly any climbing with hands/ropes etc. Will look in to that anyway though, thanks.

Originally Posted by MetaMorpho

Maybe I’ve been riding the edge of the porn addiction. I’m going to take the same advice because I know the rational and their is that rat experiment that sticks in my brain. (Joking about porn and how it fries your brain. Maybe not so funny?) I’m going to abstain from all porn and masturbation to see how it affects my recurring ED. Maybe that’s what the connection is with your Africa vacation. No porn and when you got home? Things quickly went South again?

Good luck and try to post/share the results. For now I continue to jelq and hope to complete my working model of the Chicken Choker 03 tonight. So I will be able to start hanging before I get my stretcher device built as I need to get a few minor parts for that yet. Again. Good luck with PE.

I’m definitely going to give it a go, will be sure to share the results. I am slightly worried about the so-called ‘flat-lining’ period where things get temporarily worse, but ‘it’s always darkest before the dawn’ as they say. Thanks again MetaMorpho

Poleaxe,
Something else I just remembered. Are you taking L-Arginine for anything? (Like working out.) If not, you may want to try it. I’m taking it for body & penis building. (Also recommended for ED)

“L-arginine is an amino acid that the body uses to make nitric oxide, a substance signals smooth muscle surrounding blood vessels to relax, which dilates the blood vessels and increases blood flow. Relaxation of smooth muscle in the penis allows for enhanced blood flow, leading to an erection.” (from http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/con…tiledysfunc.htm)


Pre-PE 11/11 BPEL 5.9 EG 5.3

Started PE: 3/12 BPEL 6.0 EG 5.6 * Current: BPEL 7.0 EG 5.9 BPSL 7.4 Nut Lgth 2.5" * Goal: BPEL 7.3 EG 6.3 BPSL 8.00

Mind over matter. All of life is transitional.

Don’t eat soy, it has estrogen effect.

And don’t think too much about it, sometimes (actually most times) mental worries are meaningless. If you don’t feel horny, so be it. You are healthy right? You workout, eat well. So why don’t you just respect your body’s wishes instead of pushing it?


Start: 6.9 BPEL x 4.9 (17,5 x 12,5 cm)

Now: 7.7 BPEL x 5.7 (19,5 x 14,5 cm)

Originally Posted by poleaxe
Okay, Food: Wholegrain breakfast cereal, Mass gain powder made with whey protein, oatmeal, bananas, apples, oranges, tuna, pasta, soya yogurts, unsalted mixed nuts, wholegrain bread, peanut butter, jam (jelly), potatoes, pork sausages, vegetables, rice (white & brown), curried chicken, salmon fillet, breaded cod, chips (as in fries).
Drink: Water, tea, coffee, beer, whisky, lactose-free milk

4-7 times a week on average.

It was mostly just slow walking to be honest, the reason so many people climb Kilimanjaro is that despite it’s height there is no technical skill needed, I.e hardly any climbing with hands/ropes etc. Will look in to that anyway though, thanks.


By the way, I just want to say that I am only “just zis guy”*, I have no qualifications of any type. Everything below is my own opinion.

Ok, you’re eating good food. Not so sure about the Mass gain powder - if you talk to a raw food expert, they will tell you how to make something out of natural products that is just as good or better. I have no knowledge in this area, but a friend of mine is making shakes out of split-pea protein…

However, if you want to get better erections, the less coffee and alcohol you have the better. It’s up to you. But if you’re anything like me, you will wake up one day and want to grab the bull by the horns and do ANYTHING it takes to succeed. A hard cock - sounds like a worthy crusade :)

However, having said all that, I don’t believe your problem is due to food.

If the doctors say it’s not your endocrine system, the next place to look is circulation and muscles. The muscles that cross the pelvic floor can exert unbelievable pressure on your blood vessels there and impeed the flow. On the other hand, strong PC muscles help maintain erections by a clamping action which inhibits the blood from flowing out of the dick once erection is achieved. So surprise surprise, tension can help, but only in all the right places. To get a good erection, some things need to relax, and other things need to tense, or at least be toned. So definitely look into the exercises I mentioned - I feel that will pay off the most.

Finally, IMHO, you are jerking way to much for a guy with your problems.

Let me explain -

At your age, if you have not cum for a while, the hornyness will build up. Also the testosterone will build up, so I am told. You can use this natural process to aid your recovery. Getting horny is like building up pressure in your system. Ejaculation releases that pressure. It sound like you could actually use a little more pressure. So if for instance you were to cut down ejaculation to once a week, you might be surprised at the changes. You will get a little harder, and the sensations when you do allow yourself to have fun will be stronger.

After the first week of this you could add edging to your routine - that is to say, you can play with your dick, but keep stopping as you near ejaculation. You could keep this up for say 1/2 a an hour / 45 minutes. IF you get so called “blue balls” that is to say an ache in the balls or nearby brought on by lack of cumming - then edging is probably not good for you.

*From hitch-hikers guide to the universe, referring to Zaphod Beeblebrox.


I'm fed up of having a signature!

Poleaxe,
Wanted to let you know that I’m getting results from abstaining. I think in the future I will try edging and skip the full ejaculation to get it into a dependable routine. Then I’ll know that my wife is going to get a full load without me aborting on her. I continue to jelq and am trying for 40 min. Of hanging 4.5 Lbs in 2 sets. One 20+ minutes this morning and it felt great during and after. I’m surprised at how quickly I got to this level. Maybe I’ll have beginner’s luck and get big initial gains!

How’s the ED going. Hopefully it passes! Your 25 and could be using that tool for another 50-60 years. Just think positive and stay away from porn. Limit yourself. This reminds me of my Korean Tae-Kwando Master and how he pushed for balance and the discipline it takes to achieve it. :) Good luck Poleaxe!


Pre-PE 11/11 BPEL 5.9 EG 5.3

Started PE: 3/12 BPEL 6.0 EG 5.6 * Current: BPEL 7.0 EG 5.9 BPSL 7.4 Nut Lgth 2.5" * Goal: BPEL 7.3 EG 6.3 BPSL 8.00

Mind over matter. All of life is transitional.

Poleaxe,

I’m 23 and have had ED problems for a while and have done my fair share of research. To make it short and simple,

DO:
-soft jelqs
-edging (only ejaculate every 2-4 days)
-exercise, stretch multiple times a week
-drink a lot of water (and eat healthy obviously)

DON’T
-spend hours everyday looking for a cure (very important)
-(penis) stretch too much until this problem goes away
-look at porn
-obsessively masturbate
-look for “cures” aka all those EQ boosting supplements. Sure some of them may help, but you’re young and healthy, and there’s no use breaking your wallet over a psychological problem.
-beat yourself up when you can’t get a solid erection yet. It takes time and patience and the more you stress out over it, the worse it will be.


Starting stats: NBPEL:6.5 | MSEG:5.25 (around 3/1/2010)

Current stats: NBPEL:6.5 | MSEG:5.25 (around 3/1/2010)

Short-term goals NBPEL:7.25| MSEG: 5.65

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