How often should I ejaculate ?

I know this is covered in at least a couple of threads here on the forum, but I still can’t find the truth.

I can go on for 5 days in a row with no ejaculation, nor would I feel the need to. I sense this is wrong and might be a bad habit I got since puberty. I actually started to masturbate very early, but I don’t remember ever being so horny that I needed to go twice or more in one day, until I saw porn. I was masturbating 2-3 times only ocasionally though, I wasn’t watching porn everyday and I never had a girlfriend while I was a teenager. This might be the cause for my irregular sexual desire, the lack of real sexual activity for so many years.

Should I try and train myself to ejaculate everyday for a while ? All the anecdotal evidence I found points to the fact the greatest of the great do this and have been doing this, apparently, since they were kids.

After I edge for a longer period and ejaculate, there’s a serious lack of motivation for sex in me. Even after a short session, but after the longer ones, with a partner, it would be impossible for me to get comfortable enough to get horny again and feel some blood going back to my dick.

Any thoughts on how I could become hornier in general ? I feel like I tried everything and burned out. I even stop watching porn and it seems like that is the worst decision I could make for a libido increase.

I eventually got some guts and masturbated for longer than I used to while using a metal ring. It’s a good sized one, never had an issue with it, I was just scared of ejaculation with a ring on.

I still haven’t done it, but I really got into edging with a ring on since, I think I leveled up with kegels at least a little, because I’ve already had several dry orgasms without the ring, with the ring on, and also several strong kegels performed before PONR avoiding ejaculation completely.

Anything else I could do ? Would having an orgasm with the ring on make me hornier in general ? As if the intensity of the orgasm is what really matters, and conditioning myself to it ?

What I basically want to ask is this, does orgasm control work the same as PE ? Requiring us to increase intensity, going for stronger orgasms, in order for the lighter orgasms to be of less discomfort ? I hope that sounded right…

I do not own the truth, that is just my opinion.

It is healthy and positive to ejaculate and orgasm to your organism. However, it does not work like that for your mind/brain/hormones etc. We function and seek things because of our reward system, to seek to gain that pleasure of completing a task, objective, dream and all that gives you realization and satisfaction in your life. In that optic, when you masturbate and ejaculate it secrets lots of endorphins, emptying your “sexual energy” or seek for real sex, intimacy, women. It, obviously, does not give you a feeling of completing a task or objective, thus, right after comes sadness, dissatisfaction, feeling of emptiness. Why? Because we have consciouness, we know that we did not accomplished the things, we just triggered our brain reward system to give us more and more endorphins (pleasure), and again and again. Just like Skinner’s experiment, I strongly recommend you to see it on youtube or read about.

Now think with me, if you had a solid healthy relationship, we would not having this conversation, you’d having sex at least once a week according to this XXI century standards.

I went through all the things you are saying and I am glad that I saw this post of yours because I came to a realization, last weeks I’ve been meditating and thinking about my previous PE journeys. I realized that I choosed pumping and then clamping, as well, to justify seeing porn and having my penis erected all the time (pleasurable too). My brain’s reward system today is fucked up because of pumping, everyday I have this desire to pump and feel my engorged penis inside that tube. I became dissatisfied with somethings because of pumping, I had to change somethings inside my mind to recalibrate myself and behaviors to feel pleasure in penetration again. I am serious considering going a psychologist to treat it. I seriously do not know how to open up about this in a PE forum.

Short answer is: ejaculate (cum) as often as your desire makes you want or need to.

Sometimes I don’t totally feel horny, but I feel like it would be fun to jerk off in all my various ways of self play, and when I start playing with myself, I get turned on and horny and hard and play and cum.

I don’t use porn anymore, almost 10 months now. I didn’t start watching porn until I was maybe 18 I think, I just had a VHS tape with 5 short scenes on it, filmed maybe early 1990s. That’s what I had for about 4 years before I got real high speed internet, and then I only watched porn once or twice a week maybe. So my drive to ejaculate as a youth was 100% not porn induced, I just did it alone with only myself, not even much imagination. I’ve always just been turned on by my own pleasure and I tunnel into it and really live within it.

I can cum every single day for months on end and never feel like “I need to take a break”. I do take breaks though to build up my semen and explode after a few days off, or 7 days, which is the #1 amount of time to wait to cum. 7 days and you’re a fucking fire hydrant (at least I am!). Strength of my orgasmic ejaculations never really is less because I cum every day. Some days I cum 3-5 times spaced over about 10 hours or so, and my Os get stronger as the day goes on and the level of my cum strength (distance of cum shot and volume) doesn’t totally decrease, depends on how hydrated I am I think.

I wouldn’t say, though, that the “greatest of the great” of men are the ones that can cum or feel like cumming every day. When I watched porn I had the drive to tease my cock and get hard off and on all day in short bursts: 5 minutes of watching here and there. Then many hours later I’d edge for an hour to more porn and explode at the end. Now with no porn I spend less time playing and more time focusing on the sensations and feelings, the pleasure I feel. I really get into it more now. It was mindless fapping before, now its conscious and present self pleasure.

Since you don’t watch porn anymore you should start getting into your body and your penis. Focus as much attention on them as possible. Touch more than your penis, try to make your whole body an erogenous zone. Men are so completely penis-oriented in life that they only use it for pleasure. This makes us miss out on so many pleasurable sensations and kinds of orgasms (length and strength both short and small to long and huge).

You’ve used your mind to drive your erotic feelings, which is good, but with porn. As you’ve said, quitting porn has not brought an increase in libido. Its probably because you haven’t been off it long enough to notice. I notice now, big time. I get hard faster for my wife now than maybe in the whole 23 years I’ve been with her, and I’ve always had excellent EQ and the like. But now, I get hard so fast I don’t even realize I’m fully hard until I look or touch it. And I know 110% its because I don’t watch porn at all anymore. I just know it.

I don’t know what your living situation is, but try breathing more heavily as you pleasure yourself. Breath and sound can augment your pleasure and orgasm, make them stronger and longer lasting. For instance, porn is a complete distraction that allows you to just focus on your boner. When its off, what happens? Does your mind wander? Do you think of work or things that aren’t related to sexy/erotic things? Do you think of chores? Baseball stats? I don’t know, just thinking here. Anyway, what you need to do is be mindful (like meditation but not as intense) of you, your body, and your pleasure stimulation and sensations. Make yourself think about how good it feels. Then start breathing in and out slightly audibly, like make sound but not like “oooohhhhhh” or anything like that if you live with other people and they can hear you. But breathing audibly is not that loud and you can get this going that way. The sound you make and focus on breath distracts your upper brain from making you think; sound makes “the movies in your head” stop playing, you don’t watch them, you start to not pay attention to your upper brain yelling at you. Sound connects you to your bottom brain, which is where primal sexual urges live and orgasm comes from. You want to get into your bottom brain and stay in there and let the sex within your body take over and be the thing talking to you. But you talk to it to, you coax it and let it know you’re there for it and you want it to come out and get stronger and be bigger. Your pleasure grows, the feelings increase, your body reacts, you start breathing more forcefully, and you can increase your breathing and heart rate as you near orgasm and it should be bigger than normal for you. But this takes practice and maybe weeks of work.

But its all about cumming, right? So its worth the work!

A cock ring might help you with getting aroused because it turns you on. But I don’t know if a ring in and of itself can increase the strength and duration of your orgasm. I’ve cum with a ring on (one a little too small and one the right size) a few times and I personally feel like it delays my orgasm and effects my ejaculation, like I have to work harder manually on my cock to get it to finish cumming and get all the cum out. Its a slightly unsettling feeling for me because of the restriction from the ring. The only way to answer your question about a cock ring is to just try it yourself and see!

Another way to increase your orgasm quality is to take sexual supplements like herbals and roots. Maca, catuaba bark, muira puama, mucuna pruriens all help. I’m maybe naturally hornier than some guys out there, my libido is through the roof 24/7, but when I take these supplements its even stronger. Sometimes my orgasms last 45 seconds long or even longer depending on how turned on I am; usually my orgasm is about 30 seconds long on average. Sexual supplements can help raise libido, erection levels, and semen output. All of those can ramp up libido and get you going.

This went long but you brought up a few things that I felt needed some time spent. Hope this helps in any way shape or form!

Everyday!! Good for your health!

You did a pretty good job with this post. I made me reflect, let us know where this road takes you.

I don’t really see porn as the problem. Fwiw, while “watching” porn, I also listen to other stuff most of the time like podcasts or even stand-up comedy. Also, pretty important, while “watching” porn, most of the time I just watch my dick and think about stuff, I get hornier while “watching” porn when thinking of girls that I know, especially the ones I met recently.

The problem is, I wake up and feel miserable. My experiences with women as a teenager left me with a serious challenge when facing new women from what I noticed so far. I feel miserable talking to a woman because I know she wouldn’t expect me to have had such an awful past from the way I look and talk, and I then feel bad for the way I look and talk, I guess it could be like an impostor syndrome. I feel as if this world of having a female sexual partner had been avoiding me and now it might even be too late to enter, or at least enter and have a decent life inside.

With that aside, thanks for all your answers. Pumpedmember, I do take supplements, I take all these: citruline malate, beta alanine, creatine, whey protein, taurine, silimarine, vitamin E, vitamin D, sildenafil and tadalafil ocasionally; I eat garlic, ginger, lots of bell peppers and foods, eggs, bananas and lots of apples, lots of red meat too, I have a good stomach apparently, I really eat what I want and stay ripped with little to no effort, from all the muscle I already developed all these years, I guess, there’s a bunch of people on the Internet comparing muscled up bodies to furnaces. Do you really recommend “Maca, catuaba bark, muira puama, mucuna pruriens” ?

Also, c3ifador, you sound a little depressed yourself actually, I’ve been reading your threads since I first signed on this forum, I remember some of your posts about your experience with PE. I don’t see anything wrong with pumping for 10min before each and every sex session with a woman/wife. Remember, Kingsnake had a bunch of photos with SEVERAL women from Atlanta, where he lived, he was laying his dick on their face and taking pictures of them all, at least almost all of them, there probably were more girls he could’ve shown us over at MOS forum. It seems the forum doesn’t work anymore, maybe it’s days are over, it wouldn’t come as a suprise seeing how other websites are closed or don’t work, and WHO says a Dark CyberAtack Winter is coming, so…. Just saying, remember the succes other guys had with PE and how much love they were getting, don’t forget the pictures and the happily writen posts people were making, maybe we won’t always have acces to these forums so easily. PE shouldn’t backfire like this on us, making us even more insecure and stuff like that. Pumping was a blessing from the sky, so was clamping. Actually, I can’t decide for myself wich one I loved the most.

That you have porn on while doing other things normalizes the porn as if its just a podcast, or stand up comedy. I also fantasized about my wife while playing with myself while watching porn. But it all still had a most negative bad effect on me and my cock. You might not see porn as a problem, but it is a highly problematic medium. I didn’t think anything of it until I realized I couldn’t even cum without it. I treated my viewing as casual, I “didn’t need it,” and I had been a user for a long time. But I was wrong.

Absolutely yes I recommend those supplements. Get them from Swanson, they are cheap and totally legit. I used Piping Rock thinking their stuff was better or higher quality. I don’t think their stuff even works anymore, I notice nothing from their shit. Swanson all day I’ll never stray from them again!

sex is as natural as the need to eat. You are hungry, you eat. Nowhere it says that you have to go these many days without eating or train your brain not to eat. Sex is the same. If you wanna spray your whole house with cum, do it. Just dont fuck up yourself watching porn. Use your mind, and/or a real woman.

An urologist told me one time that cumming twice a day was extremely healthy. I even thought about asking her for a hand lol.

A recent study found less cancer in men who ejaculated about 21 times per month.

Ejaculating At Least 21 Times A Month Can Cut Prostate Cancer Risk, Claims Study

I think, depends of you are single or with a couple because sex is not the same as jerking off

igigi this post is solid! I laughed while reading it because I totally agree, this is a “yesssssssss!!!” post for me. I honestly can’t say I’m more productive or harder working or smarter or think better or anything like that when I don’t cum often and take breaks. Sometimes I’m like “I wish I could work, but I’m horny as hell and can only think about cumming…” and I barely get anything done, and I didn’t cum either, so what was it worth in the end? Nothing. If it strikes your mind and body, then get off, that’s how I see it. Its cool an urologist told you that.

Besides prostate cancer, I’ve always wondered if frequent ejaculations (but really fulfilling ones, not just a tiny quick little pump out, but an orgasmic ejaculation that really rocks your whole pelvis and makes your body know you released) just help reduce cancer in our whole body, because the physiology of ejaculation involves a lot of our body. Or at least our body puts a lot into it. Sitting and stroking and cumming involves only so much of your body (legs and glutes involved? not really much at all) versus fucking a sleeve (like fleshlight) in a dock on a bed or floor and using your whole body to make yourself cum. Likewise, the act of sex with another person is also a full body engaged act with ejaculation as a result. The sitting style and full body style are two, quite different processes involved in the act of purposeful ejaculation where each process engages different bodily muscles, so action on the lungs and heart is different between them. Also engagement of hips and pelvis is reduced for sitting versus not sitting.

Blood rate goes up, lungs work hard, endocrine system and glands are filling and releasing, brain is highly stimulated, sweating, flushed skin, and finally a massive release of several glands’ products and a come down like no other. All of that surely helps reduce cancers in general, right? Not saying "cumming=no cancer" but there must be something going on health-wise that helps the whole male body beyond just prostate alone. Also not saying "sitting while cumming is not really cumming", but more the level of bodily involvement becomes more like exercise or heavier physical activity with using the body to create ejaculation.

trainspot, I think you avoided what I said, this is not about me (even though I tried to make a connection with you), this is about you. This reponse you sent me is to avoid your first post of this thread How often should I ejaculate ? . Maybe you do not want to face it.

I will say again: you are wasting your sexual energy with your PE routine. You may take, as you said you want to, supplements or go to the next level, but none of that will work as you want, I can think of the number one reason the fact that you are young. In that, as long as you don’t receive adequate treatment, your problem will continue along with dissatisfaction in this area of your life. In this optic, in my opinion the correct treatment will be Cognitive behavioral therapy.

Abraço,

c3ifador

Hi c3ifador,
I’m sorry to hijack this thread. But I wonder would the pumping have been OK if you hadn’t of combined porn with it. Or do you think the pumping is problematic itself.
Thanks,
OD