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Originally Posted by RyanPL
We’re just friends. We get along really well, so that’d probably explain why she’s worried about developing feelings. It’s happened before, and i squared it away. No reason I can’t do it again

I’ll keep you guys updated over the next week or so. I’ll let you know if i have any questions or any progress

You’ll figure it out guy. And yes, please keep us updated. Also, wishing you the best of luck with the whole fuck-buddy girl. Sounds like you might be a tad smitten by her, women have this magical power over us, sometimes without us even realizing it, lol.

I haven’t had sex in about 2- 3 months(if that makes you feel a bit better about your situation, likely not though, I guess) time by now which sucks just a little, hehe.


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”-Hunter.S.Thompson-

As long as a big can of Gillette shaving cream(7,5" or 19 cm), with picture proof in the 'full body picture' section. Pictures is the ultimate proof in the pudding, IMO.

Originally Posted by Abdiel
You’ll figure it out guy. And yes, please keep us updated. Also, wishing you the best of luck with the whole fuck-buddy girl. Sounds like you might be a tad smitten by her, women have this magical power over us, sometimes without us even realizing it, lol.

I haven’t had sex in about 2- 3 months(if that makes you feel a bit better about your situation, likely not though, I guess) time by now which sucks just a little, hehe.

In my experience, it’s not uncommon for a girl to say one thing, and mean another. The circumstances we’re under right now, and the amount of time we spend together would explain her concerns. Maybe she did start developing feelings for me, it would explain a few things too if its true. But either way, circumstances are fluid. So who knows what could happen next week or next month. Maybe even tomorrow. But in the mean time, I’ve got a few things to do anyway, and there’s another friend I’m kinda interested in escalating. Just got to man up and deal with it.

With the BM, how long would be it before I start seeing temporary gains?


09/2017 Stats: NBPEL: 6.5" BPEL: 7.0” EG: 4.8”

End Goal - NBPEL: 7.25"-.50" BPEL: 7.75" EG: 5.5"

(Will switch to maintenance after this)

On Friday, did another session. The weekend would be alot harder for me to get sessions in, so I thought I’d get one more in.

5 minutes stretching
10 minutes wet jelqs
3 x 5 minutes of BM

I’ve noticed when it gets to a certain pressure, the rubber section towards the base is retracted. I only noticed it to happen the once, so maybe I did something wrong?

So far, haven’t noticed anything in erect gains, but it’s still early days. While in the tube, there seems to be more girth than usual. While in between sets, I’ve noticed it’s looser and abit more relaxed than usual. Hard to tell at the moment what results I’m getting exactly, but again, it’s only been two sessions so far. Expecting far more pronounced results in both erect length and girth once I’ve reached about 10-15 sessions, which is about a month.

Also, I seem to struggle in developing that 70-80% erect state that people talk about during Jelqs. I get to maybe 50%? It’s firm, and has some “structure” just not any more than that.


09/2017 Stats: NBPEL: 6.5" BPEL: 7.0” EG: 4.8”

End Goal - NBPEL: 7.25"-.50" BPEL: 7.75" EG: 5.5"

(Will switch to maintenance after this)

Originally Posted by RyanPL
In my experience, it’s not uncommon for a girl to say one thing, and mean another. The circumstances we’re under right now, and the amount of time we spend together would explain her concerns. Maybe she did start developing feelings for me, it would explain a few things too if its true. But either way, circumstances are fluid. So who knows what could happen next week or next month. Maybe even tomorrow. But in the mean time, I’ve got a few things to do anyway, and there’s another friend I’m kinda interested in escalating. Just got to man up and deal with it.

With the BM, how long would be it before I start seeing temporary gains?

In about a week or two of consistent use you should be hanging both longer and fuller.


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”-Hunter.S.Thompson-

As long as a big can of Gillette shaving cream(7,5" or 19 cm), with picture proof in the 'full body picture' section. Pictures is the ultimate proof in the pudding, IMO.

Originally Posted by RyanPL
On Friday, did another session. The weekend would be alot harder for me to get sessions in, so I thought I’d get one more in.

5 minutes stretching
10 minutes wet jelqs
3 x 5 minutes of BM

I’ve noticed when it gets to a certain pressure, the rubber section towards the base is retracted. I only noticed it to happen the once, so maybe I did something wrong?

So far, haven’t noticed anything in erect gains, but it’s still early days. While in the tube, there seems to be more girth than usual. While in between sets, I’ve noticed it’s looser and abit more relaxed than usual. Hard to tell at the moment what results I’m getting exactly, but again, it’s only been two sessions so far. Expecting far more pronounced results in both erect length and girth once I’ve reached about 10-15 sessions, which is about a month.

Also, I seem to struggle in developing that 70-80% erect state that people talk about during Jelqs. I get to maybe 50%? It’s firm, and has some “structure” just not any more than that.

I always pump until the bottom part is totally retracted and from what I’ve read it’s the way you’re supposed to do it.

But even when fully retracted I re-pump every few minutes and still some water comes out. Haven’t experienced any type of discomfort doing it this way.

Hopefully you’ll get a feel of it within a week of proper use. Good luck.


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”-Hunter.S.Thompson-

As long as a big can of Gillette shaving cream(7,5" or 19 cm), with picture proof in the 'full body picture' section. Pictures is the ultimate proof in the pudding, IMO.

Won’t be giving anymore advice, despite tons of others using their BM the same way I do and have gotten good results from it.

Just listen to the butthurt individual who’s sending you PM’s, because if he got an ‘injury’ then everybody will get it. According to his ‘logic’.

I’ll rather be back in a few months to tell of my then significant BM gains.

Sorry, it just pisses me off when cowards try to play childish mind games by sending me a copy of what they supposedly wrote all confidential to you.

And you know who you are you two faced coward. Bahbye.


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”-Hunter.S.Thompson-

As long as a big can of Gillette shaving cream(7,5" or 19 cm), with picture proof in the 'full body picture' section. Pictures is the ultimate proof in the pudding, IMO.

Originally Posted by Abdiel
Won’t be giving anymore advice, despite tons of others using their BM the same way I do and have gotten good results from it.

Just listen to the butthurt individual who’s sending you PM’s, because if he got an ‘injury’ then everybody will get it. According to his ‘logic’.

I’ll rather be back in a few months to tell of my then significant BM gains.

Sorry, it just pisses me off when cowards try to play childish mind games by sending me a copy of what they supposedly wrote all confidential to you.

And you know who you are you two faced coward. Bahbye.

Just for reference I accidentally sent this message to Abdiel instead of RyanPL because I clicked on the wrong user while browsing this thread. Accidents happen but cowardice was not a factor, just a tinge of stupidity on my end.

Subj: Bathmate

“Hey figured messaging you would create less chaos than posting in that thread again.

Just wanted to say be careful if you follow Abdiel’s advice of

“I always pump until the bottom part is totally retracted and from what I’ve read it’s the way you’re supposed to do it.

But even when fully retracted I re-pump every few minutes and still some water comes out. Haven’t experienced any type of discomfort doing it this way.”

This is what I was talking about when I said that it can create way too much pressure if you just pump all the way down. It’s not going to be as severe as that video I linked where it goes to 17hg of pressure, because you won’t be getting a perfect seal. That said, I’m pretty confident that it’d be in the 7-10hg range (at least) if you pump “all the way down”, and that’s waaaaay too much pressure. If you’re still relatively new this would do nothing but provide some decent temporary gains (maybe), and lead to the toughening of the tissue which would mess up future PE routines because you’d either need to decondition, or keep applying more and more pressure/force to get results.

Sorry if I sound like a broken record but I’m literally on a decon break because I used my BM in a similar capacity to what Abdiel is describing and it ultimately led to a decrease in EQ, and stalled out my gains because I believe the tissue became more resistant. Granted, I was usually doing it in combination with jelqs or stretches but too much pressure is too much pressure. Just for reference I got my BM in the first week of December and used it frequently throughout November and into late December. I’m not saying the results were catastrophic, I honestly think it helped my flaccid hang, but needing to decon because I didn’t realize I was using too much pressure is annoying to say the least.

Best of luck with your new device,

velhung “

It was a bit redundant so I didn’t feel the need to post it until now. For reference I didn’t get injured, I simply stated that I experienced decreased EQ most likely related to fatigue and that I thought the high pressure with bathmates could be a hazard (especially for newbies).

Ryan, sorry again for moving this thread from the original purpose.

Velhungvhite i think it was terrific advice you PM’d.

Hahaha. And no, I won’t even read your PM’s, all 3 of them, so why not stop sending me shit?

I’m putting my whole focus on myself from now on and believe me I’m still gaining and I’ve gained 0,4” since starting with the BM.(measured last night, so yes)

Also what I’m doing is what the producers of the product tells you to do, hence there’s hundreds if not thousands of people doing it like I am without getting hurt from it. And my EQ has never been better. I’ll take my results any day instead of your hysterical ‘warnings’.

And it’s too obvious while I had moved forward regarding this whole subject you have me and my advice so stuck in your head you’re secretly warning people, lol.

Quite the effeminate move to make to be honest. I’m so done with this.


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”-Hunter.S.Thompson-

As long as a big can of Gillette shaving cream(7,5" or 19 cm), with picture proof in the 'full body picture' section. Pictures is the ultimate proof in the pudding, IMO.

sadly this is how TP is going, you post something and some ass clown comes out with name calling because your posting YOUR OPINION, not putting down THEIR OPINION just posting your experience. I’ve noticed good threads go cold because of this. There’s guys here with lots of experience and knowledge that don’t want to post because it’s not worth the aggravation or name calling.

Velhung gave good advice regardless of who the PM went too. Maybe things happen for a reason and right guy actually got the PM call it Devine intervention.

I’ve used the bm for over two years and tried to give my input but instead got call a “nagging bitch” by someone who’s used it for what a month or two. Bitch please! Go take your meds

Ryan my offer still stands if have questions on using the bm also your routine looks good to start as time goes on you can add 2nd set but be forewarned eventually you’ll stop using the bm for a couple days and your dick will deflate. That’s why I suggested adding other things in.

Originally Posted by Abdiel
Hahaha. And no, I won’t even read your PM’s, all 3 of them, so why not stop sending me shit?

I’m putting my whole focus on myself from now on and believe me I’m still gaining and I’ve gained 0,4” since starting with the BM.(measured last night, so yes)

Also what I’m doing is what the producers of the product tells you to do, hence there’s hundreds if not thousands of people doing it like I am without getting hurt from it. And my EQ has never been better. I’ll take my results any day instead of your hysterical ‘warnings’.

And it’s too obvious while I had moved forward regarding this whole subject you have me and my advice so stuck in your head you’re secretly warning people, lol.

Quite the effeminate move to make to be honest. I’m so done with this.

Dude why are you so defensive about literally nothing? Why do you feel the need to resort to personal attacks? It’s not like I’m saying your routine isn’t safe or effective, I’m saying for newbies there’s a very real danger of toughening the tissue. It seems like I can’t even oppose one of your views without you taking it as a personal attack and trying to slander me hahahah

Also for context here’s the last PM that was sent since it seems you’ll be more likely to read it here


Re: Bathmate

Just to clarify, I really had no ill will with this and didn’t see my message as demeaning toward you. I’m sure that people can obviously make great gains using the BM, but Ryan seemed like he is still very new and I don’t see a lot of warnings about the bathmates potentially having too much pressure for newbies. Obviously PE happens on an individual basis, but I wish that I would’ve further investigated the pressure issues associated with the product before investing and felt that it would be pertinent information.

I’m sorry if you misconstrued this as a personal attack against you as my hope was to keep this drama out of it. I can tell by your posts that you’re heated over this and I apologize that my error caused you grief.

velhung”

This is exactly why private messages should remain private.

I’d ask all of you to take a step back. We have simply one goal here at Thunder’s. To provide a safe physically and emotionally place to grow.

If you’re not getting with that approach I wouldn’t be surprised to see you not welcome here any longer.

I’m no longer a mod but I would consider this a good warning.


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Originally Posted by Abdiel
Quite the effeminate move to make to be honest. I’m so done with this.

Stop attacking other Thunders members personally. And definitely lay off the homophobic comments. That is totally unacceptable here.

If you disagree with someone’s ideas, then discuss the ideas. Don’t smear them.

Yes this is a warning. This behavior is against Thundersplace forum guidelines about civility and how we treat our fellow members. Stop this shit.

Forum Guidelines See section on “Content and Behavior”

On Edit: giving you a few days off so you can cool down and think about being more civil


Last edited by sta-kool : 01-07-2018 at .

Originally Posted by Abdiel
Won’t be giving anymore advice, despite tons of others using their BM the same way I do and have gotten good results from it.

Just listen to the butthurt individual who’s sending you PM’s, because if he got an ‘injury’ then everybody will get it. According to his ‘logic’.

I’ll rather be back in a few months to tell of my then significant BM gains.

Sorry, it just pisses me off when cowards try to play childish mind games by sending me a copy of what they supposedly wrote all confidential to you.

And you know who you are you two faced coward. Bahbye.

This isn’t high-school. Period. Your actions and the continued fanning of this fire is not justifiable. It’s immature and ridiculous and has completely taken this thread off topic. I don’t know who you think you are or why you think this is productive but it has to stop.

Period.

I don’t care how many times you reference “having a temper” or “working on it” or “not changing for anyone” because none of it justifies this over-the-top behavior when you get riled up. Figure out how to get your point across without name-calling and vitriol or stop posting bullshit. There ain’t no halfway point.


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Hi Ryan:

An old thread which may have some useful info for you:

Bathmate Users — how do you manage pressure?

This to me is one of the best pieces of advice in the thread:

gprent - Bathmate Users — how do you manage pressure?

Originally Posted by gprent
I want to thank you guys for inspiring me to get my Bathmate out of storage and giving it another try. I have been using it for a couple of mornings now, and instead of pumping it up to the max like I did when I first got it, I just take it easy and give it at least enough pressure to hold it on while I take my shower, but not enough pressure to make it uncomfortable. I get a great morning pump with no trauma and am still able to do my regular workout later in the day without going overboard. Just another reminder for me that avoiding damage is key to making all of these efforts successful. I am going to give the Bathmate two thumbs up. :)

See also Lampwick’s advice about pumping without a gauge that I quoted here. He is talking about air pumping without a gauge but I think his advice translates to Bathmate:

sta-kool - Bathmate Users — how do you manage pressure?

Originally Posted by Lampwick
As for how you know you’re getting the right amount of pressure without a gauge, that can be tricky, which is why they make gauges.

You can\’t go on the basis of sensation, or pain. And you can’t know that you are ‘safe’ ‘because it doesn’t hurt yet’.

I take it that you can see through your cylinder. I would suggest that you pump to the bare minimum needed to get a seal, and then just a little more. VERY little. Keep your early sessions short and your vacuum levels very low. Watch your penis through the cylinder and see if you are getting any expansion, and how your color is. Don’t worry if you do not get expansion immediately.


Last edited by sta-kool : 01-07-2018 at .
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