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What kind of gains per session do you get?

I had an interesting email from larry29 not to long ago. He had just purchased a set of rings and queried me about my progress.

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From:larry29

Monty530,
Man, you made some impressive and fairly fast gains.

Would you mind running down your LOT, days hanging, number of sets, weight used, and which directions you hung in?

Your rings are the best ADS I’ve ever used. I only take them off when I run my hill sprints and at night to sleep. Very comfortable.

Thanx,
larry29


So I pulled my records, which are no more then calendars that I keep a running tabs of the number of sets I do and the angle of stress along with what weight I use on rings ADS. Also on these calendars I would write down my flaccid stretched length. I find flaccid stretched more consistent and accurate rather then erect measurements. My measurements aren’t time based but as I find definable gains, so they might be two weeks apart or perhaps a month apart

I found this an interesting study because I hadn’t done any data basing with my records before. Well this is what I’ve come with.
I looked at my stretched flaccid progress from Nov of last year until the present. I know that my signature hasn’t reflected any gains sense Nov because my schedule has been so compromised in terms of privacy. As I’ve counted the number of 20 min sessions between length measurements it became apparent that I had consistently gained on a per session basis. What is important here is that I did not gain on a time basis but on a session basis.
Let me explain what I mean. I counted the number of sessions between measurements and found that right around the area of 20 to 24 sessions I would gain 1/8 of an inch. Those sessions could be spread out over several weeks or in some weeks they were bunched up into short periods perhaps two weeks. In either case the number of sessions per 1/8 inch gain was the same.
IOW, if I gained 1/4” then I would find the count of sessions in the area of 40. If I gained 1/2” the count came out to 80 or so sessions.
Understand that between what ever time occured between my hanging sessions I consistently have worn my PEweights. Those periods sometimes have been 4 to 8 days in duration without a hanging session, yet my gains have still remained consistent. So guys I guess my message is: Don’t worry about how often your hanging sessions might occure, what is ultimatly important is do them whenever you can because each session should bring you closer to your goal.

This was an interesting surprise for me.
Thank you larry29 for asking me to tally this stuff.

I now ask others what they may have come up with when they run their stats against their progress.

I know this is sketchy so If you have any questions fire away and I’ll fill in the blanks.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Talk about gains! I am IMPRESSED with your stats Dude! Nice unit!

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Good point, good plug.

Ill have to go back and have a look at my records, but from memory I was gaining at between 0.07” and 0.22” per months while hanging. The lower rate was while hanging according to my LOT, the higher was while fulcrum hanging SO. Never with more than 8.75 lbs.

My gains are about 2” per session, but since I’m married to Mrs. Bobbit’s sister, I have to start back over from scratch every time she gets mad.

Very Interesting. I haven’t recorded information like this but will from now on.

Monty, you have some impressive gains, so I have some questions.

1.What angle do you hang?
2. How long for each session last, and what kind of weight are you using?
3.Do you use a heat lamp?

I hung just under a month, SO, 5x a week 3x20mins, skipping days occasionally due to lack of time/privacy, and got upto hanging 13.77lbs, I hung heavy because I was under the impression that any lighter then I could handle and i’d be wasting my time. I never gained any length unfortunately, I didn’t have an ADS and my dick loved to turtle up afterwards, I got the feeling I was creating microtears which needed to be kept open to heal at their new length which I couldn’t do, so I stoppped altogether. I plan to start hanging again soonish, once I get some fractional plates and time to make Piet’s straight out set-up as mine was far too awkward. Also…

4. How important would you say your ADS is, and do you use the standard size or the enlarged ring?

One more…

5. What else does you routine invole? Do you hang and ADS only?

Sorry for all the questions

Originally Posted by Magus
Monty, you have some impressive gains, so I have some questions.
1.What angle do you hang?
2. How long for each session last, and what kind of weight are you using?
3.Do you use a heat lamp?
I hung just under a month, SO, 5x a week 3x20mins, skipping days occasionally due to lack of time/privacy, and got upto hanging 13.77lbs, I hung heavy because I was under the impression that any lighter then I could handle and i’d be wasting my time. I never gained any length unfortunately, I didn’t have an ADS and my dick loved to turtle up afterwards, I got the feeling I was creating microtears which needed to be kept open to heal at their new length which I couldn’t do, so I stoppped altogether. I plan to start hanging again soonish, once I get some fractional plates and time to make Piet’s straight out set-up as mine was far too awkward. Also…
4. How important would you say your ADS is, and do you use the standard size or the enlarged ring?
One more…
5. What else does you routine invole? Do you hang and ADS only?
Sorry for all the questions


1. I hang mostly SO with perhaps 1/3 of my sessions SU. I use a bungee cord anchored to a table for SO and an eye lag mounted up high for SU. I don’t do any SD except with PEweights.
2. 20 min sessions 13 to 17lbs
3. I haven’t been using heat recently but when I do, it usually is a rice sock kind of thing.
4. I think an ADS is essential to maintaining continuity between sessions. It keeps the ligs straight until the next hanging session and is wonderful for flaccid hang if that is your bag. I don’t go to gyms anymore or public showers so comparing is irrelevant for me. Besides that’s all dependent on temperature anyway YKWIM? I use standard wedge rings. The number of rings is irrelevant and dependent entirely upon your wrap technique and penis/skin tolerance.
5. That’s really all I do: Hang and ADS and talk to you guys.

Magus, I would have advised you to stop until you can gain an ADS of some sort. When your not gaining two things can be happening 1. your allowing enough time for healing which will not only bring you back to your original length but you’ll end up gaining strength and therefore find a need to increase weight all the time. You may be an inordinately fast healer. 2. You may be using more weight then you should causing a response in the ligs that makes them contract more then usual which is very frustrating.
IMHO an ADS corrects for both problems, but you should avoid over heavy weights. 13lbs may very well be more then you SHOULD be using. Your optimum weight could very well be in the 9 to 10lb area. Think of your ligs as seat belts in your car. If you pull lightly the belt gives, but if you pull hard the cam locks up. ligs have the same kind of capability which allows us to do miraculous things like lift a car off of a child or breakdown a door in a fire.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Monty - are these weights quite noticable under jeans? I wear mine not super tight, but snug and I’m afraid there would be too much of a noticable bulge. Comments please.

Bulge? Oh Yeah you’ll have bulge. Loose pants are the order of the day. Cargo pants work really good, but even loose jeans ahhhh, NO. Unless you want to attract attention. Boy will you.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Thanks for your reply Monty, was helpful.

I hang on and off with 38 lbs. I go twenty for 5 min. 30 for 5 min., then the rest for five. Then i pump it three or four times. Looks impressive but doesn’t last. I am going to get serious and use the ads too. I have made some gains, once in awhile I pop a lig. I use a homemade hager that looks sort of like BIB. I made it from a piece of pvc pipe. I have only pe’d half heartedly, but it does work

I didn’t realize I had been a member for three years, I could of had my unit built by now.

Originally Posted by bouttime
I hang on and off with 38 lbs.

Holy Christ dude. Yikes.

Hey Monty- Whats up with the love for larry29 but none for me? I asked you for a gains per hanging hour breakdown just a few weeks back remember??!! :) In that email I wrote that I’ve observed through other people’s hanging/penimaster numbers that it takes anywhere from 1200-1750 hours of PE time per inch of gain.

(Members used penimaster or hanging exclusively- Not together as in Monty’s example of hanging+PEWeights)

Here’s the numbers as you’ve described them-
.5”= approx 80 sessions
1”= 160 sessions X 20 minutes
1”=3200 minutes or 54 hours of hanging

Of course, we have to add to that an estimated 85 hours per week of ADS time with the PEWeights.

SO……..Assuming an optimistic 4 months per inch we get a number of 1414 hours per inch. Well within my guesstimate!

OK Now all that’s left is to figure out exactly how fast the body can actually lengthen the tissue. Monty’s hanging/session numbers are promising but the tissue can only change so fast. If not, then someone could hang 50 hours straight and gain an inch. LOL There is a lot that happens in the rest/ADS phase.

I’m starting up my hanging/ADS routine this evening and I think I might start a thread in the Routines forum. I’ll be doing one 20 min hanging session in the AM and another in the PM and wearing the PEWeights in between. This will be my only PE work so the results should be quite telling.

nice statistical analysis….what kind of ADS do you use?


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