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I would just like to clarify that when I say I hang OTS what I mean is that I hang at about a 10 o’clock. Rather than putting the weight over my shoulder, I sit on the floor and have my bungee cord hooked up to a table that’s about 2 feet off the ground. This pulls my penis straight out without any contact with the pubic bone. I also feel a strong pull on the sides of my dick that I can trace all the way back to my ischium. I also feel a lot of stress in my septum.


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Originally Posted by ModestoMan
BTW, how do you keep the hanger from sliding forward when you grip so close to the base? How much weight do you use? Do you feel a lot of skin stretch?

There is some slide and some skin stretch which equates to the hanger moving forward about an inch altogether from it’s original position. I wrap with heavy Theraband direct to my skin or the HTW. I know Theraband direct to the skin is uncomfortable for some people but when I apply the Redi-stretcher over it doesn’t bother me at all.
I have to stretch my penis past the logo to attach it this way. I use 10 lbs all the time now but I’ve worked up to that. Perhaps my gains are tunica gains, But whatever works you know? Still I suppose it would be better for all our sakes to help isolate this.


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I have gained about 3 inches from hanging and have never hung at an angle above my LOT. I hang btc, ots and straight out.


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Originally Posted by jelktoid

I have gained about 3 inches from hanging and have never hung at an angle above my LOT. I hang btc, ots and straight out.

3 inches, my God. In what span of time and how many hours a week would you say?


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Originally Posted by Veesel
There is some slide and some skin stretch which equates to the hanger moving forward about an inch altogether from it’s original position.

It sounds like you’re stretching too much skin. Why grip so low? Are you really cranking down the hanger? What do you think is holding the hanger in place?

Sorry for all the questions, but I really don’t understand how you’re making this work.


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Originally Posted by ModestoMan
It sounds like you’re stretching too much skin. Why grip so low? Are you really cranking down the hanger? What do you think is holding the hanger in place?

Sorry for all the questions, but I really don’t understand how you’re making this work.

It’s cool I don’t mind answering questions, but I’m sort of at loss for how else to explain this. Well here goes anyway. I grip so low because to my rationale the lower I grip the more effectively I can target the ligs. Yes I’m cranking down on the hanger pretty aggressively but not enough I think to cut off circulation. I also made a bit of an adjustment to my redi-stretcher by loosening the gripping heads angling them out more then tightening back up. I stretch out to my full FSL apply my wrap behind my circumcision scar and while still fully stretched out apply my hanger. As far as what I think is holding it in place well my guess would have to be traction, bare theraband really won’t slide too well over skin. Plus as low as I’m gripping there shouldn’t be that much skin to slide forward, although you are probably right an I’m also stretching that skin out as well.


Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage. I was Comtemplating the immortal words of Socrates, who said "I drank what!?". Start May 2005 6.5" BPEL - 6" NBPEL - 5" eg June 2005 6.75" BPEL - 6.25" NBPEL - 5" eg August 2005 7.125" BPEL - 6.5" NBPEL - 5" eg

The skin is very loosely attached to the shaft near the base, and it’s probably not possible to form any kind of “plug” when gripping that low. This means that the primary thing resisting the force of the hanger is skin. This is very inefficient.

The ligs attach to the shaft. The best say to stretch the ligs is to pull on the shaft in a direction that causes the shaft to pull on the ligs. This is generally straight down or between the cheeks.

I suggest you follow TPS’s directions for wrapping and attaching his hanger, and don’t try attaching any lower than he specifies.


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Originally Posted by ModestoMan
SO is a funny position because it probably applies tension to both your ligs and your tunica at the same time. On the one hand, this can be less than optimal because you’re not concentrating all the tension from the weight on one structure, which means that you’re sort of squandering the weight.

On the other hand, I believe SO uniquely targets certain outer lig bundles, which may be factors limiting the full expression of your inner penis. Damn, that sounds flakey, but I mean it in the literal sense. “Expression” means to pull out, and “inner penis” refers to those parts of your shaft that ride along the bottom surface of your crotch but are prevented from hanging down and away from your body by the suspensory ligament.


Modestoman,
I think you are right on the money with what you wrote above. But I also feel alot of my problems assoicated with targeting the inner structures whether var upper or lower angle hanging is to do with not wraping and attaching functionally to get the most effective pull,stress/strain on the shaft.

My thinking tonight (and gather most here already know this) is that hanging can be divided into various components or chapters. The first being getting wrapping right, the second being hanger configeration, the third being attachment and fourth being a combination of correct weight/time and angle and ofcourse, consistancy.

My own example and experiences has me questioning whether or not I have wrapped and had the configeration of the hanger correct for my particluar shaft. Bigger once said in pm form to try and keep it simple but for myself simple can mean difficult and brainteasing.

I think that my decision to try upper angle hanging was sound judgement for my LOT consideration back in 2003 but since going back to BTC last week I have come to learn/relearn all over again that as you and others here have said that skin can take some of the stress that was intended for the ligs or the tunica and because we then lose our effectivness of hanger application we are tempted to up the weight too try and kick start or continue gains.

This weekend I have been re examining my hanger efforts over the past 3 years and I am convinced I have had my angles correct but not the effectivenes of my wrapping or hanger configeration. Bigger has said before that the one thing in PE is that the only consistancy is inconsistancy and varibles are constantly changing and we need to be able to address these changes as they happen. Ofcourse everyone already knows that, (just thought I would throw it in).

It just takes a slow changer like me 3 years to finally work it out.

But in conclusion what you quoted above for me was exactly what I found when I switched from BTC (which I could never get right) to SO and then onto an upper angle close to OTS but not proper OTS cause I was using a pulley under my desk whilst sitting on the floor.

Oh my LOT has risen in 3 years despite the fact that I have never been comfortable with my wrapping or hanger configeration and application. I suspected I gained about 5mm in BPFSL and the LOT has risen from 7, 7.30 to around 9.

One thing that is hard for me too make sound judgement on here is BPEL. This is hard for me cause my erection levels i.e blood flow can vary. Hence I think for minor changes it is better to watch BPFSL increments rather than BPEL. (just my opinion)

But I wish to ask you directly and any other hangers here who finds that they can get a clearer more diffinite LOT reading when they have their hanger attached just like when they are hanging. I do. Infact after sets I have completed I also do a LOT test whilst still in the hanger just before I am about to remove it for a rest period. I tell you guys this, that for me the LOT test is so much more clearer with the hanger on.

I would like too know if others find this so.

Thanks I hope I made sense.
GMJ

Originally Posted by Gentle Mr Justin
But I wish to ask you directly and any other hangers here who finds that they can get a clearer more diffinite LOT reading when they have their hanger attached just like when they are hanging. I do. Infact after sets I have completed I also do a LOT test whilst still in the hanger just before I am about to remove it for a rest period. I tell you guys this, that for me the LOT test is so much more clearer with the hanger on.

I would like too know if others find this so.

I talked with hobby via pm about this topic and we both think that you can perform the LOT test with the hanger on and get an accurate LOT reading.
Personally I think you can better do the test with the hanger on then doing it with your hand.

Originally Posted by SimonClass

Personally I think you can better do the test with the hanger on then doing it with your hand.

SimonClass,

Thanks for your response mate.

GMJ

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