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thoughtfulgold's Penis Enlargement as "Scheduled Trauma" theory

Originally Posted by Shaunbaby
I just had a thought.

What TG has outlined above is a method to enjoy Newbie gains over and over again.

Pretty much, yeah. It is one of the best methods to keep the gain rate higher as you get deep in your time logged like I have.

It’s why I sometimes take several months off.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Wow great stuff. It seems you would be eliminating the need for longer decon breaks by just switching exercises, and you’re still meeting the rest/growth criteria by only hitting a “focus”, for instance girth, twice a week.

Lots of good stuff. Thanks.

Originally Posted by BigBootyFan
*favorited

I ain’t even realize that’s a function here. I need to go grab some threads myself.

Thanks for the compliment. If you got something from it, mission complete.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Originally Posted by MajicWand
Wow great stuff. It seems you would be eliminating the need for longer decon breaks by just switching exercises, and you’re still meeting the rest/growth criteria by only hitting a “focus”, for instance girth, twice a week.
Lots of good stuff. Thanks.

That’s basically how you can work less as being more. And it’s what a lot of folks do in gyms, or just at home exercising. It’s practical and lowers the time requirements of PE. Which get so damn difficult with full time work.

Glad you enjoyed it.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Wow, super Post. I Just added favorite as well. I want to read the comments of others members on the topic. I planned a week off / break from PE in the end September. Afterward, I will try to apply your theory as well.

Have a nice weekend :)


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Originally Posted by chocorhyme88
Wow, super Post. I Just added favorite as well. I want to read the comments of others members on the topic. I planned a week off / break from PE in the end September. Afterward, I will try to apply your theory as well.

Have a nice weekend :)

I wish you the best of luck with it. Thanks for the compliments. *smiles*


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

thoughtfulgold I have nothing to add.

Excellent post mate.

There was member here in the past that posted something similar.

He claimed that he beats the crap out of his penis in a workout to the point of overtraining but not quite doing a short and very intense routine 3-4 times a day, and then lets it rest for 3-4 days, maybe 5. Then he does the same again and again.

He claimed I think 2 inches in 2-3 months, if I remember correctly.

He just posted the thread, repiled in a couple of posts by other members and then nothing. No activity by him at all. He didn’t post any pictures.

Now, I don’t believe this can happen and I was a newbie back then. I can’t remember his name.

What do you think?


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Originally Posted by bill10
thoughtfulgold I have nothing to add.

Excellent post mate.

There was member here in the past that posted something similar.

He claimed that he beats the crap out of his penis in a workout to the point of overtraining but not quite doing a short and very intense routine 3-4 times a day, and then lets it rest for 3-4 days, maybe 5. Then he does the same again and again.

He claimed I think 2 inches in 2-3 months, if I remember correctly.

He just posted the thread, repiled in a couple of posts by other members and then nothing. No activity by him at all. He didn’t post any pictures.

Now, I don’t believe this can happen and I was a newbie back then. I can’t remember his name.

What do you think?

I fear some will try beating the crap out of their penis and won’t recover. The safer and proven method is conditioning allowing time to (months/years) provide gains. I’d hate to advocate punishing your penis.


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That’s why I said the guy gave the information and never again posted here. Could be a troll.

Then I remember Mr Orange who did the same thing but provided a solid exercise. He exaggerated the gains of course but the exercise is good.

I can’t remember his name mate.

Anyway, I highly doubt that it works, like that. I see it more like a recipe for disaster.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

Newbie questions

Hey there,

I am new to this whole PE experience, appreciate you putting this information together, seems to make a lot of sense. I purchased an andropenis extender and have been trying to get used to that. Currently penis is sore a lot of the time, wondering if that is normal? With your theory on mixing it up, would that mean wearing the extender say 5 days a week, then maybe doing some girth exercises as well, then take 2 days off? Or do you just do one or the other? My other newbie question has to do with acronyms, notice a lot of you guys use them, what are BPFL, BPEL, FG and EG? Thanks in advance for helping out a newb.

Originally Posted by Emerald620
Hey there,
I am new to this whole PE experience, appreciate you putting this information together, seems to make a lot of sense. I purchased an andropenis extender and have been trying to get used to that. Currently penis is sore a lot of the time, wondering if that is normal? With your theory on mixing it up, would that mean wearing the extender say 5 days a week, then maybe doing some girth exercises as well, then take 2 days off? Or do you just do one or the other? My other newbie question has to do with acronyms, notice a lot of you guys use them, what are BPFL, BPEL, FG and EG? Thanks in advance for helping out a newb.

BP = bone pressed
F = flaccid
E = erect
G = girth
L = length


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Originally Posted by bill10
He claimed that he beats the crap out of his penis in a workout to the point of overtraining but not quite doing a short and very intense routine 3-4 times a day, and then lets it rest for 3-4 days, maybe 5. Then he does the same again and again..

Now, I don’t believe this can happen and I was a newbie back then. I can’t remember his name.

What do you think?

Honestly, I think the odds of such a technique working is less than 1/100,000,000. I have a list of reasons why that is provably the most laughable thing I’ve ever heard. Hang on.

1. Forcing tissue to heal doesn’t in itself bring gains. Otherwise we could get giant dicks by buying meat tenderizing hammers, going to town and just surviving the ordeal.

2. Advocating a technique that extreme is irresponsible at best. An outright lie at worst. A comparable rub would be going to the gym, doing nothing but heavy weight training reps until failure then resting a few days and expecting to be super buff instead of unable to move and calling 911. Injury and forcing fast progress is a thin line and he would leap over it in what you describe. It flies in the face of the reason we condition ourselves to work up to levels of exercise.

3. The theory is too unstable, results unrepeatable. Even if you had such an outright incredible ability to regenerate safely from punishment, the level of damage it sounds like he was suggesting would require constant wear of an extender or some similar device simply to keep yourself from healing in a contorted or deformed state because that level of damage wouldn’t leave you in perfect shape by nature and the penis has no bone to hold its form from excessive abuse like our muscles do.

4. Assuming he could endure that punishment and his dick didn’t turn into something lumpier than frozen mashed potatoes to look at after his “3-4 day recovery phase” He forgets one thing. That level of punishment is only the beginning. He couldn’t keep getting good gains without his body fighting that sort of trauma constantly. How would he keep getting gains? His body would get resistance to that damage quickly. He would build scar tissue EVERYWHERE in the penis and scar tissue is nonpliable by nature and highly resistant to tearing…so the same area isn’t repeatedly injured. It’s why keloiding in black people is considered an evolutionary advantage. A keloid is an exaggerated scar that is more raised and rough tissue that is much tougher than the original skin that prevents future injury to the same area. A keloid is ugly cosmetically but it will take more than what it took to cause the original injury if you try to recut a keloid scar. That’s the nature of the scarring process itself, much less the more advanced keloid processes noted in darker skinned people of African descent. So…if he battered his penis all the scar tissue he would create would likely cause his penis to heal mishapen (as scar tissue is never symmetrical or uniform) AND completely retard any future gains. And what if the end user of his technique is black? That’s the worst scenario yet.

5. Let’s go back to basic PE theory. We don’t overdo it because of injury risks, right? Well that’s half of it. The other half is injuries trigger things like “turtling” or tissue retraction. That is nigh impossible to gain through, if your body refuses to go with the program at all. Turtling is known to kill gains. You can’t expect anyone to believe outright abuse to the penis wouldn’t carry that consequence. I doubt if he did what he suggested that he would be able to urinate without sitting down for months. That level of retraction could make grabbing yourself to aim at a urinal pretty tricky. I mean it would half your flaccid size.

6. Last but certainly not least, how the heck can you even recommend a routine of that intensity to the general public? It would be like if a champion powerlifter started offering his routine and watched his clients get a hernia doing his weight deadlifts or crushing themselves on the weight bench trying to imitate him and press over 400lbs but he has years and years of training that has honed his body to be able to so the things that he finds effective. No respect for the average or more fragile penis in that theory at all.

In closing do I think gains could be experienced this way? Perhaps. A razor slim chance. But is the BaddJack method worth doing? BaddJack’s Progress Technically it worked for him over 30 years. And mutilated him to a point I’d hate to see my body in the mirror every morning. But if this outlier case is worth betting your penis on, then yes. Some method like he recommended could work. But put your Powerball ticket in now. Those are your chances and if you break your penis a good 100 million dollar or bigger jackpot might buy you a new one.

I’d never in a million years try that, Bill10. Not ever recommend it to anyone. That’s my .02


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.


Last edited by thoughtfulgold : 09-02-2016 at . Reason: Clarity, additional words.

Originally Posted by Titleist
I fear some will try beating the crap out of their penis and won’t recover. The safer and proven method is conditioning allowing time to (months/years) provide gains. I’d hate to advocate punishing your penis.

To get strong we don’t advocate working out until your joints fail to build strong shoulders and hips. So why recommend breaking the penis to make it stronger? This ain’t no movie Montage. We won’t be perfect and happy by the end of the song.

Only real, tedious and careful work hones the body. Be it penis, muscles or exceptional physical abilities.

You are dead on, Titleist.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Originally Posted by Emerald620
Hey there,
I am new to this whole PE experience, appreciate you putting this information together, seems to make a lot of sense. I purchased an andropenis extender and have been trying to get used to that. Currently penis is sore a lot of the time, wondering if that is normal? With your theory on mixing it up, would that mean wearing the extender say 5 days a week, then maybe doing some girth exercises as well, then take 2 days off? Or do you just do one or the other? My other newbie question has to do with acronyms, notice a lot of you guys use them, what are BPFL, BPEL, FG and EG? Thanks in advance for helping out a newb.

Sore is hard to tell. Are your erections harder, more frequent now? Are you hanging lower, feeling heavier?

Extenders are systems that are designed as stand alone. They work fine on their own but of mixing it up is your aim, if you use 5 days for PE, only use the extender for 3. Do girth work for two. Alternate days in fact.

I got gains with my extender without mixing it up. However, if I had known, I would have back then.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
Honestly, I think the odds of such a technique working is less than 1/100,000,000. I have a list of reasons why that is provably the most laughable thing I’ve ever heard. Hang on.

1. Forcing tissue to heal doesn’t in itself bring gains. Otherwise we could get giant dicks by buying meat tenderizing hammers, going to town and just surviving the ordeal.

2. Advocating a technique that extreme is irresponsible at best. An outright lie at worst. A comparable rub would be going to the gym, doing nothing but heavy weight training reps until failure then resting a few days and expecting to be super buff instead of unable to move and calling 911. Injury and forcing fast progress is a thin line and he would leap over it in what you describe. It flies in the face of the reason we condition ourselves to work up to levels of exercise.

3. The theory is too unstable, results unrepeatable. Even if you had such an outright incredible ability to regenerate safely from punishment, the level of damage it sounds like he was suggesting would require constant wear of an extender or some similar device simply to keep yourself from healing in a contorted or deformed state because that level of damage wouldn’t leave you in perfect shape by nature and the penis has no bone to hold its form from excessive abuse like our muscles do.

4. Assuming he could endure that punishment and his dick didn’t turn into something lumpier than frozen mashed potatoes to look at after his “3-4 day recovery phase” He forgets one thing. That level of punishment is only the beginning. He couldn’t keep getting good gains without his body fighting that sort of trauma constantly. How would he keep getting gains? His body would get resistance to that damage quickly. He would build scar tissue EVERYWHERE in the penis and scar tissue is nonpliable by nature and highly resistant to tearing…so the same area isn’t repeatedly injured. It’s why keloiding in black people is considered an evolutionary advantage. A keloid is an exaggerated scar that is more raised and rough tissue that is much tougher than the original skin that prevents future injury to the same area. A keloid is ugly cosmetically but it will take more than what it took to cause the original injury if you try to recut a keloid scar. That’s the nature of the scarring process itself, much less the more advanced keloid processes noted in darker skinned people of African descent. So…if he battered his penis all the scar tissue he would create would likely cause his penis to heal mishapen (as scar tissue is never symmetrical or uniform) AND completely retard any future gains. And what if the end user of his technique is black? That’s the worst scenario yet.

5. Let’s go back to basic PE theory. We don’t overdo it because of injury risks, right? Well that’s half of it. The other half is injuries trigger things like “turtling” or tissue retraction. That is nigh impossible to gain through, if your body refuses to go with the program at all. Turtling is known to kill gains. You can’t expect anyone to believe outright abuse to the penis wouldn’t carry that consequence. I doubt if he did what he suggested that he would be able to urinate without sitting down for months. That level of retraction could make grabbing yourself to aim at a urinal pretty tricky. I mean it would half your flaccid size.

6. Last but certainly not least, how the heck can you even recommend a routine of that intensity to the general public? It would be like if a champion powerlifter started offering his routine and watched his clients get a hernia doing his weight deadlifts or crushing themselves on the weight bench trying to imitate him and press over 400lbs but he has years and years of training that has honed his body to be able to so the things that he finds effective. No respect for the average or more fragile penis in that theory at all.

In closing do I think gains could be experienced this way? Perhaps. A razor slim chance. But is the BaddJack method worth doing? BaddJack’s Progress Technically it worked for him over 30 years. And mutilated him to a point I’d hate to see my body in the mirror every morning. But if this outlier case is worth betting your penis on, then yes. Some method like he recommended could work. But put your Powerball ticket in now. Those are your chances and if you break your penis a good 100 million dollar or bigger jackpot might buy you a new one.

I’d never in a million years try that, Bill10. Not ever recommend it to anyone. That’s my .02

Also, what slipped by during my edit on my phone:

7. Tissue death. We do things gently because bruising and tearing can cause long term damage that may not actually heal. If skin, nerves or underlying tissue dies…there are not only no gains but you lose function and gain significant pain that you can’t just “take a few days off and it’ll be okay.” Battering any part of your body runs the risk of tissue necrosis. Which is a serious problem. Much less in this sensitive of an area that most men are likely to be hesitant to admit they injured at all, much less while trying to make their penis bigger.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

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