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Originally Posted by Equine Rooster
You disagreed with my reasoning yet re-stated my three requirements in this paragraph.

Your “Dedication and time”= my “Actively worked at it for 2 years or more”.

Your “skill and knowledge” = my “did not over train” and “adjusted their workout.”

I agree that a certain physiology is required. I made a wild guess that 50% of men may have the physiology to gain 3 inches. I never claimed to have made any kind of analysis, and plainly stated that it is just a suspicion.

I didn’t clarify that I meant 3 inches or more to be “sky is the limit”. I don’t think a 20” penis is possible, (at least one that still works). If we add 3” to the average length, we wind up with a really, really big penis at around 8-9 inches. If we add 3” to someone who started already really big, say at 9”, then we end up with the Arnold Schrwartzenegers and Lance Armstrongs at 12 inches. But that would mean someone dedicated enough to pursue it for 2-6 years when already gigantic.

My question is, just how many men actually have been actively PE-ing for 10 years or more and have done it the way you and I both describe in terms of your “skill and knowledge” or my “not over training” and “adjusting their workout.”? Most simply stop actively PE-ing at some point for a variety of reasons.

This argument as to if infinite gains are possible has been discussed by many guys other than you and me Ruz. My guess, (and yes it is without foundation), is that many more guys could gain 3” or more if they dedicated the time and worked smart according to the current state of the art. You seem to say that percentage is probably much less, and you may be right.

I merely brought it up here to see if any statistics guys could find a way to add your and my criteria to the analysis.

I’m with Ruz on this one. The idea that 3 inch gains are ever going to be anything more than a freak occurrence seems to require a delicate combination of improbable events.

Further muddying the waters of our understanding, nobody, to my knowledge, has ever quantified the factors of:
A) age and the possibility of gains attributed to PE being due in fact to natural genital growth
B) the resolution of illness or disease conditions leading to ED

In the PE realm, there are no scientific studies that are trustworthy because all of them are funded by pill hawkers, extender schlockers, and wiener slicers. Not only are we left with mostly anecdotal and self-reported data from sites like this one, but we don’t even have the rigor of even the sloppiest experimenters in mainstream medical research.

Maybe half the gains reported are due to curing ED or impairment or in some fashion improving EQ. How would we know? Better question, how would the participants even know? There may be some with obvious cases, they’re symptomatic or they realize they have a problem. And maybe there’s a lot who don’t. We don’t know, either, because we don’t have enough baseline data to say that.


4/2008 Bpel 6.50, Beg 5.5, Mseg 4.9

6/2008 Bpel 6.75, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

9/2008 Bpel 7.00, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

If someone had the time and expertise, I am wondering what the gain analysis would show for data entered after this thread was started in January 2005:

Physiologic Indicators (PIs) to help growth!

Maybe add some time to give the thread time to gain popularity, or use the date it was promoted to “article” status.

Then there are these threads:

Warning! If you haven’t gotten improved erections:

Is LESS more, or is MORE more?

If we use the PI’s thread, (notice that now everyone knows what “PI’s” are?), and add about 6 months to the posting date, we are at 4 years since it was posted. I wonder if the number of 2 inch gainers took a big jump around 2007/2008, that would have given them 2 years of implementing the idea of PI’s into their PE. (Of course there are are factors like simply the number of guys doing PE, etc.)

The other two threads were posted in 2007 and 2009, along with some others detailing how to get gains by watching PI’s and EQ. If big gains take the time I think they do, (2-6 years), in my humble opinion, we have not had enough time to see if bigger gains are possible by using the current state of the art. Before 2005, many were basically over training, beating the crap out of their dicks. Even the current guys who have “more is more” work for them probably aren’t doing as much “more” as the guys were doing before 2005, because now they are paying more attention to their PI’s and EQ.

So if 3 inch gains are possible more frequently than a “freak occurrence” as I suspect, (remember this is just a suspicion, don’t think I am taking a super hard stance on this), then we haven’t had the 2-6 years needed to see.


Sept. 4, '07: BPEL 6.875 inches, EG widest 5.25

Goal: Double digits

Originally Posted by supersizeit
Thanks again Priapologist.
“1 in 44” frequency stats (length and/or girth) is a respectable goal as far as relative size to the population goes.

I.e. In a crowd of a 1000 men there are only 22 or 23 people who can match you.

According the stats that Priapologist has so graciously taken his time and effort to work through and post:

It would seem that 7.527 x 5.988 is the proverbial “1 in 44” for both length and girth respectively and therefore the proverbial “1 in 44” in terms of volume size.

Using Priapologist’s tables and similar logic; one could compose the following table:

5.877 x 4.972 inches: 1 in 2
6.702 x 5.480 inches: 1 in 6
7.527 x 5.988 inches: 1 in 44
8.352 x 6.496 inches: 1 in 741
9.177 x 7.004 inches: 1 in 31, 574
10.00 x 7.512 inches: 1 in 3.5 million

Converting this table to volume we get:

11.55: 1 in 2
16.01: 1 in 6
21.46: 1 in 44
28.03: 1 in 741
35.81: 1 in 31, 574
44.88: 1 in 3.5 million

Now simply determine your volume and extrapolate your standing in the volume table above.
The radius of your unit is half of your girth divided by 3.14
And your height is your length.
Then plug those numbers into this calculator here:
Http://www.online-calculators.co.uk…indervolume.php

Example:

Supersizeit 8.5 x 6.0

Half of 6.0 divided by 3.14=.955 (radius)
8.5 (height)

Calculator says 24.36

If you don’t want to be bothered to use that calculator for the future or if that link goes bad;
Then simply square the radius and multiply by 3.14 and then multiply by the length.

24.36 is in between:

21.46: 1 in 44
28.03: 1 in 741

Hence extrapolation of 24.36: 1 in 351

That seems more mathematically intuitive to me as far as to how frequent a unit like mine appears in the population.

You can play around and have fun with these numbers.
For example:
A dude that has 7.5 girth but only 6 in length=26.98 volume or roughly 1 in 619 in terms of volume.
However the same dude with reverse stats; 7.5 in length and 6 in girth=21.51 or roughly 1 in 49..
Thereby mathematically demonstrating the importance of girth in any PE routine. Ehhh?

Caveat:
Of course all these calculations are just rough approximations as to where you stand in terms of total volume size.
No hard rules here, just rough approximations.

I believe you have your maths wrong, there is no guarantee that every 9.177 long penis is also 7.004 inches in circumference. Statistically speaking ( based on the data that created the values), 1 in ~ 900 million million men (1 in 30,000 times 1 in 30,000) has a penis that is both at least 9.177 inches long AND at least 7.004 inches in circumference, and there is at best 1 unique penis that is both at least 10 inches long AND at least 7.512 inches in circumference.


Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.

Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented

No PE since 2015 -- starting back up

Um great math skills people. Now put those calculators DOWN and start pulling on those johnsons.

Originally Posted by buffdaddy
Um great math skills people. Now put those calculators DOWN and start pulling on those johnsons.


Didn’t you know?

Half of PE is 90% maths. :rolleyes:


I'm a big fan of 50 Cent, or as we call him in Zimbabwe, four hundred million dollars.

My last post should read “1 in ~900 Million” not “1 in ~900 million million” - I tried to edit it but I can’t. I apologize for the error.


Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.

Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented

No PE since 2015 -- starting back up

Originally Posted by supersizeit
Thanks again Priapologist.
“1 in 44” frequency stats (length and/or girth) is a respectable goal as far as relative size to the population goes.

i.e. In a crowd of a 1000 men there are only 22 or 23 people who can match you.

According the stats that Priapologist has so graciously taken his time and effort to work through and post:

It would seem that 7.527 x 5.988 is the proverbial “1 in 44” for both length and girth respectively and therefore the proverbial “1 in 44” in terms of volume size.

Using Priapologist’s tables and similar logic; one could compose the following table:

5.877 x 4.972 inches: 1 in 2
6.702 x 5.480 inches: 1 in 6
7.527 x 5.988 inches: 1 in 44
8.352 x 6.496 inches: 1 in 741
9.177 x 7.004 inches: 1 in 31, 574
10.00 x 7.512 inches: 1 in 3.5 million

Converting this table to volume we get:

11.55: 1 in 2
16.01: 1 in 6
21.46: 1 in 44
28.03: 1 in 741
35.81: 1 in 31, 574
44.88: 1 in 3.5 million

Now simply determine your volume and extrapolate your standing in the volume table above.
The radius of your unit is half of your girth divided by 3.14
and your height is your length.
Then plug those numbers into this calculator here:
http://www.online-calculators.co.uk…indervolume.php

Example:

Supersizeit 8.5 x 6.0

Half of 6.0 divided by 3.14=.955 (radius)
8.5 (height)

Calculator says 24.36

If you dont want to be bothered to use that calculator for the future or if that link goes bad;
then simply square the radius and multiply by 3.14 and then multiply by the length.

24.36 is in between:

21.46: 1 in 44
28.03: 1 in 741

Hence extrapolation of 24.36: 1 in 351

That seems more mathematically intuitive to me as far as to how frequent a unit like mine appears in the population.

You can play around and have fun with these numbers.
For example:
A dude that has 7.5 girth but only 6 in length=26.98 volume or roughly 1 in 619 in terms of volume.
However the same dude with reverse stats; 7.5 in length and 6 in girth=21.51 or roughly 1 in 49…
thereby mathematically demonstrating the importance of girth in any PE routine. ehhh?

Caveat:
Of course all these calculations are just rough approximations as to where you stand in terms of total volume size.
No hard rules here, just rough approximations.

supersize it, your maths here and therefore your post is completely wrong.

The probaility of two independant events happening that both have odds of 1 in 44 doesn’t mean the odds of them happening together remain 1 in 44.

Rather, that 2.2% likelyhood is multiplied again to get the overall PROBABILITY of both the length and girth being in that range. Therefore the probaility of one guy having a penis with length and girth both at the range of 1 in 44 is 0.04% or 4 in 10,000.

However, I’m not sure in my own mind whether a penis length and girth is something of an independant variable or if it is conditional, i.e. are longer penis conditionally always of more girth? If so the maths is more complicated.


01/08/07: 5.75" BPEL, 5.25" EG ::: 26/05/10: 7.3" BPEL, 5.4" MSEG, [My Progress Pics] - [My Routine]

Revised Min Final Objective: [/b] 7.75" BPEL (33% increase), 5.5" MSEG

It was awesome the way you presented that data Priapologist. Thanks for the incite. If only every man who lacked confidence in their manhood could read and understand this information.


really big. want the biggest.

Is there anybody out there who truly believes that there are 3 inch length gains?

Personally I don’t.

(Some who claim they did make money on the basis of their claims.)


Later - ttt

Originally Posted by ticktickticker
Is there anybody out there who truly believes that there are 3 inch length gains?

Personally I don’t.

(Some who claim they did make money on the basis of their claims.)

If my penis is very shrunken, due to cold water immersion or other environmental effect; it can get as short as 4” flaccid length (though I usually hang between 5” and 5.375” nowadays).

My BP Erect Length is 7.5” — that is a 3.5” increase in length from my shortest flaccid to longest erect lengths.

The penis and it’s tissues are made to stretch. To borrow from Orwell: “All penises are stretchy, but some are more stretchy than others!”

The stretchability of human tissue is used to good effect for burn victims and other reconstructive surgeries. Saline bladders are slowly expanded over time to encourage tissue growth for skin grafts, and fascia grafts.

A negative effect of tendon, ligament, muscle, nerve and fascia stretching is post-partum pelvic relaxation syndrome/pelvic floor dysfunction where the vagina loses tone, tension, and elasticity due to that “big ass head” passing through the birth canal.

Until I see a 3” gain falsified, I have to give the poster the benefit of the doubt.


Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.

Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented

No PE since 2015 -- starting back up


Last edited by kdong : 08-03-2009 at .

Giving the benefit of doubt and truly believing aren’t exactly the same thing. :)

Originally Posted by ticktickticker
Is there anybody out there who truly believes that there are 3 inch length gains?

Personally I don’t.

(Some who claim they did make money on the basis of their claims.)

I do believe there are people who can and have gained 3 inches. Just like there are elite athletes such as Lance Armstrong who can do remarkable things physically. Or such as a body builder can get to 25” arms.

However, what I said is I believe these are rare results only open to a few people who have the correct combination of physiology, determination and knowledge. I believe Bib who invented the Bib hanger is such a gainer.

In short I believe anyone who does PE can safely gain 1”, just as most people can lose body fat and get fitter. I think when you start getting towards 2-3” gains in length you are looking at people who in some manner are pre-disposed to gain of a physiological level and those who have dedicated a great deal of time to perfecting routines and techniques to gain. Just as an elite cyclist has to dedicate 6+ hours a day to training.

Most people can do things to avoid being fat. Some can get to an athletic level and then few are elite athletes, I believe the same logic follows with PE.


01/08/07: 5.75" BPEL, 5.25" EG ::: 26/05/10: 7.3" BPEL, 5.4" MSEG, [My Progress Pics] - [My Routine]

Revised Min Final Objective: [/b] 7.75" BPEL (33% increase), 5.5" MSEG

Originally Posted by 8-Ball
Funny, with the amount of members here who’s wife/gf/ex claims to have had a 10 incher, those 30 guys must really get around.

If I had a 10 inch penis I’d get around, I tell you!

I still don’t see how the original poster gets there numbers. If you look on the Mr Average site, it says there were 0.5% with dicks over 8.3”.this is out of a sample of 300 guys. This means that their were 15 guys over 8.3”, yet the original poster said that 8.3” is a 1 in 741? There were 6 guys coming in above 8.5”. Sorry maybe I am missing something.numbers don’t add up if we are looking at that study.

Http://www.mraverage.com/results.htm

6.50” to 6.75” 4.4 %

6.75” to 7.00” 2.9 %

7.00” to 7.25” 1.0 %

7.25” to 7.50” 1.0 %

7.50” to 7.75” 0.9 %

7.75” to 8.00” 0.8 %

8.00” to 8.25” 0.3 %

8.25” to 8.50” 0.3 %

8.50” to 8.75” 0.1 %

8.75” to 9.00” 0.1 %

Originally Posted by 3236148PRES
I still don’t see how the original poster gets there numbers. If you look on the Mr Average site, it says there were 0.5% with dicks over 8.3”.this is out of a sample of 300 guys. This means that their were 15 guys over 8.3”, yet the original poster said that 8.3” is a 1 in 741? There were 6 guys coming in above 8.5”. Sorry maybe I am missing something.numbers don’t add up if we are looking at that study.

Http://www.mraverage.com/results.htm

6.50” to 6.75” 4.4 %

6.75” to 7.00” 2.9 %

7.00” to 7.25” 1.0 %

7.25” to 7.50” 1.0 %

7.50” to 7.75” 0.9 %

7.75” to 8.00” 0.8 %

8.00” to 8.25” 0.3 %

8.25” to 8.50” 0.3 %

8.50” to 8.75” 0.1 %

8.75” to 9.00” 0.1 %

Your maths are incorrect.

1.0% of 300 = 3.
0.5% of 300 = 1.5 not 15 .

You were off my 1 order of magnitude, it happens to the best of us sometimes.


Kdong Starting: 7.1 x 5.125 vol = 14.84 cu. in. Current: 7.1BPEL 5.5 MSEG = 17cu. in. GOAL --> 8.5 x 6.5 vol: 28.6 cu. in.

Took Time off, lost some gains-- Girth cemented

No PE since 2015 -- starting back up

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