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Well, I did a quick one and it was pretty easy to make. I had to do some tricks with the data as if someone enter a blank entry second time they measure, it will end up as a huge minus value in the gain field ;) .

Ok. Now I have sorted out everyone who has not enter data more than once and removed blank fields (they do not count at all) and come up with the following.

There are 1773 people who has submitted data twice or more. Many has only entered length data, most girth data and unfortunately rather few flaccid data. Anyway, this is the result for average gains:
BPEL: 0.8” (2.0 cm)
EG: 0.4” (1.0 cm)
FL: 0.7” (1.8 cm)
FG: 0.5” (1.3 cm)

I think this fits pretty well to my view of what is a normal gain and definitely encourages me to keep working on it!

Here is the data of erection length gainers:

Number - BPEL, gain
99 - 0,1”
75 - 0,2”
213 - 0,3”
152 - 0,4”
193 - 0,5”
124 - 0,6”
54 - 0,7”
166 - 0,8”
86 - 0,9”
145 - 1,0”
62 - 1,1”
45 - 1,2”
97 - 1,3”
37 - 1,4”
52 - 1,5”
31 - 1,6”
8 - 1,7”
31 - 1,8”
13 - 1,9”
28 - 2,0”
7 - 2,1”
3 - 2,2”
18 - 2,3”
9 - 2,4”
4 - 2,5”
2 - 2,6”
1 - 2,7”
6 - 2,8”
3 - 2,9”
3 - 3,0”
1 - 3,1”
1 - 3,2”
2 - 3,5”
2 - 3,6”


Historical graph since start including all Measures and Goals -

Start 2008-09-01: 5,9" X 4,5", 2012-03-31: 7,3" X 5.4" - Goal 7,5" X 5,5"

Gain girth list. Only 1400 persons have a stated girth gain. Few manages to gain more than 1” as seen in the table below:

Number - EG, gain
238 - 0,1”
152 - 0,2”
303 - 0,3”
169 - 0,4”
166 - 0,5”
88 - 0,6”
34 - 0,7”
77 - 0,8”
38 - 0,9”
46 - 1,0”
18 - 1,1”
3 - 1,2”
21 - 1,3”
3 - 1,4”
8 - 1,5”
8 - 1,6”
1 - 1,7”
4 - 1,8”
2 - 1,9”
5 - 2,0”
6 - 2,1”
3 - 2,2”
2 - 2,3”
1 - 2,4”
2 - 2,5”
1 - 2,7”
1 - 2,8”

50% of the gainers are from 0.1 - 0.3”, about 10% managed 1” or more, 2,8% managed 2” or more…that is a huge gain!

Compare this with BPEL where 50% is in the range from 0.1 - 0.7” and where 42% managed 1” or more and 5% managed 2”.


Historical graph since start including all Measures and Goals -

Start 2008-09-01: 5,9" X 4,5", 2012-03-31: 7,3" X 5.4" - Goal 7,5" X 5,5"

Good work. :up:

Just a quick note: there is about a 3% that gained 1.5” EL. I find that very encouraging: those who are really consistent for a long time have an appreciable probability to gain 25% EL, I suppose we can say.

Originally Posted by marinera
Good work. :up:

Just a quick note: there is about a 3% that gained 1.5” EL. I find that very encouraging: those who are really consistent for a long time have an appreciable probability to gain 25% EL, I suppose we can say.

My personal feeling is that many, many guys could gain 1.5 inches or more, but as you say, it takes time. I wonder if that 3% actually represents as much as 50% or more of the guys who stayed with it and were smart about what their penises were “telling” them.

From my reading here, which admittedly is not that much, and from my personal experiences and observations, 0.5 to 1 inch per year is a fantastic rate of gain. So if you really want 2-3 inches gain, it will take 2-6 years.

There’s really no way of knowing, but I wonder if what the average gain is for those who meet the following criteria:

1. Actively worked at it for 2 years or more.

2. Did not over train.

3. Adjusted their workout or took an honest deconditioning break when gains stopped.

I am starting to think that for at least some guys, the sky is the limit given these conditions. I suspect, and it is only a suspicion, that somewhere between 10 and 50% of guys could gain 3 inches, or maybe even more. At this point, I plan to find out.


Sept. 4, '07: BPEL 6.875 inches, EG widest 5.25

Goal: Double digits

Originally Posted by Equine Rooster
My personal feeling is that many, many guys could gain 1.5 inches or more, but as you say, it takes time. I wonder if that 3% actually represents as much as 50% or more of the guys who stayed with it and were smart about what their penises were “telling” them.

From my reading here, which admittedly is not that much, and from my personal experiences and observations, 0.5 to 1 inch per year is a fantastic rate of gain. So if you really want 2-3 inches gain, it will take 2-6 years.

There’s really no way of knowing, but I wonder if what the average gain is for those who meet the following criteria:

1. Actively worked at it for 2 years or more.

2. Did not over train.

3. Adjusted their workout or took an honest deconditioning break when gains stopped.

I am starting to think that for at least some guys, the sky is the limit given these conditions. I suspect, and it is only a suspicion, that somewhere between 10 and 50% of guys could gain 3 inches, or maybe even more. At this point, I plan to find out.


I think you are very right and it really takes some dedication along that you really listen to what your penis is telling you. My goals are not sky high but perhaps if I reach them within a year or two, I might go for something higher ;) .

And about statistics (and I am a statistics nerd)…quoting my father; -“There are lies, damn lies and statistics.” :D


Historical graph since start including all Measures and Goals -

Start 2008-09-01: 5,9" X 4,5", 2012-03-31: 7,3" X 5.4" - Goal 7,5" X 5,5"

what about the guys who are just beating the crap out of thier units in hopes that ” more is better”

Originally Posted by jelqfanatic
what about the guys who are just beating the crap out of thier units in hopes that ” more is better”

They won’t meet condition #2, or #3 for that matter.

More does seem to be better for some guys though. But for them, their dicks are not telling them to back off.


Sept. 4, '07: BPEL 6.875 inches, EG widest 5.25

Goal: Double digits

Originally Posted by 3236148PRES
Exactly Dan.and here we are working like mad to squeeze out a 1/2” more in length or girth, even though many of us are probably married with a wife that is very content with what we offer. LOL The male mind and ego relating to our little buddy down there is amazing. I am worrying more about it at 40yo then I ever did at a teenager.go figure.

Funny shit 323…………….,

This is the case with me. Through over 50 women, without a complaint here, and never negative, in fact only positive comments about my dick size from my wife of nearly 13 years, and I am tugging and squeezing away to get to 8x6.

GO FIGURE is right. ;)


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Originally Posted by Equine Rooster
My personal feeling is that many, many guys could gain 1.5 inches or more, but as you say, it takes time. I wonder if that 3% actually represents as much as 50% or more of the guys who stayed with it and were smart about what their penises were “telling” them.

From my reading here, which admittedly is not that much, and from my personal experiences and observations, 0.5 to 1 inch per year is a fantastic rate of gain. So if you really want 2-3 inches gain, it will take 2-6 years.

There’s really no way of knowing, but I wonder if what the average gain is for those who meet the following criteria:

1. Actively worked at it for 2 years or more.

2. Did not over train.

3. Adjusted their workout or took an honest deconditioning break when gains stopped.

I am starting to think that for at least some guys, the sky is the limit given these conditions. I suspect, and it is only a suspicion, that somewhere between 10 and 50% of guys could gain 3 inches, or maybe even more. At this point, I plan to find out.

I think your analysis is without foundation.

Firstly in realistic terms “not overtraining” and “deconditioning” when gains stop are hard judgements to make. The whole basis of PE depends on doing exercises which “overtrain” your penis, so it is a finite call between that and injury, one that those who get big gains almost always cross at some stage.

Then there is just the physiological factors. If doing PE enabled “infiite” gains, then we would be seeing 20” penis from people who have been using PE techniques for now decades, we are not. Just like professional sprinters cannot run the 100m in 5 seconds, there must be environmental and physical restrictions on gains, like any activity. So I don’t believe “the sky is the limit”.

I have PE’ed for just 2-years now and have a solid 1.5” gain (probably more towards 1.75” now). However, I do feel I was initially pre-disposed to gains and secondly I don’t think 3” is possible for my body.

I don’t believe it realistic to say 50% of guys could get 3” gains. I believe to achieve that level you need a certain physiology. Secondly you need a certain dedication that most cannot give, by that I say everyone could look like Arnie in Terminator, but only a fraction of the people have the dedication, time, skill and knowledge as well as physiology to achieve that.

I just think every human differs. You cannot say every person can be a world class sprinter like Usane Bolt, he is “unique”. Not everyone like Lance Armstrong has the physiology to ride in the tour de france (some riders are thought to have naturally bigger/stronger hearts than the general population). Not everyone can have an IQ of 200, no matter how much learning. In the same way I believe people are limited to PE gains. Limited by their own physiology and psychology.


01/08/07: 5.75" BPEL, 5.25" EG ::: 26/05/10: 7.3" BPEL, 5.4" MSEG, [My Progress Pics] - [My Routine]

Revised Min Final Objective: [/b] 7.75" BPEL (33% increase), 5.5" MSEG

Originally Posted by Ruz_
I don’t believe it realistic to say 50% of guys could get 3” gains. I believe to achieve that level you need a certain physiology. Secondly you need a certain dedication that most cannot give, by that I say everyone could look like Arnie in Terminator, but only a fraction of the people have the dedication, time, skill and knowledge as well as physiology to achieve that.

You disagreed with my reasoning yet re-stated my three requirements in this paragraph.

Your “Dedication and time”= my “Actively worked at it for 2 years or more”.

Your “skill and knowledge” = my “did not over train” and “adjusted their workout…”

I agree that a certain physiology is required. I made a wild guess that 50% of men may have the physiology to gain 3 inches. I never claimed to have made any kind of analysis, and plainly stated that it is just a suspicion.

Originally Posted by Ruz_
Then there is just the physiological factors. If doing PE enabled “infiite” gains, then we would be seeing 20” penis from people who have been using PE techniques for now decades, we are not. Just like professional sprinters cannot run the 100m in 5 seconds, there must be environmental and physical restrictions on gains, like any activity. So I don’t believe “the sky is the limit”.

I didn’t clarify that I meant 3 inches or more to be “sky is the limit”. I don’t think a 20” penis is possible, (at least one that still works). If we add 3” to the average length, we wind up with a really, really big penis at around 8-9 inches. If we add 3” to someone who started already really big, say at 9”, then we end up with the Arnold Schrwartzenegers and Lance Armstrongs at 12 inches. But that would mean someone dedicated enough to pursue it for 2-6 years when already gigantic.

My question is, just how many men actually have been actively PE-ing for 10 years or more and have done it the way you and I both describe in terms of your “skill and knowledge” or my “not over training” and “adjusting their workout…”? Most simply stop actively PE-ing at some point for a variety of reasons.

This argument as to if infinite gains are possible has been discussed by many guys other than you and me Ruz. My guess, (and yes it is without foundation), is that many more guys could gain 3” or more if they dedicated the time and worked smart according to the current state of the art. You seem to say that percentage is probably much less, and you may be right.

I merely brought it up here to see if any statistics guys could find a way to add your and my criteria to the analysis.


Sept. 4, '07: BPEL 6.875 inches, EG widest 5.25

Goal: Double digits

Originally Posted by Priapologist

1.752 inches: 1 in 3.5 million
2.577 inches: 1 in 31,574
3.402 inches: 1 in 741
4.227 inches: 1 in 44
5.052 inches: 1 in 6
5.877 inches: 1 in 2
6.702 inches: 1 in 6
7.527 inches: 1 in 44
8.352 inches: 1 in 741
9.177 inches: 1 in 31, 574
10.00 inches: 1 in 3.5 million

Just curious, if this data is based on the Cancun study, and there were only 300 participants, how do you get the 1 in 741, 1 in 31,574, and 1 in 3.5M? Either they were 8.352” or they were not.

Also has the actual data by participant ever been posted anywhere? In other words, Participant #1: 6.25” L and 5.25EG, Participant #2 and so on.

Originally Posted by 3236148PRES
Just curious, if this data is based on the Cancun study, and there were only 300 participants, how do you get the 1 in 741, 1 in 31,574, and 1 in 3.5M? Either they were 8.352” or they were not.

Also has the actual data by participant ever been posted anywhere? In other words, Participant #1: 6.25” L and 5.25EG, Participant #2 and so on.

Based on a sample of any size and assuming a normal distribution allows one to find the sample mean and sample variance. You then can apply these two statistics to develop a best estimate of the population’s (all of man kind, in this case - assuming a random sample) distribution. Those numbers are standard results for 1, 2, 3, etc. standard deviations (the square root of the variance) out.


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Note that the biggest assumption here is a normal distribution. In reality, this may be somewhat close but ultimately not the case. Genetic mutations, different cultures, PE!, and other items do skew things. I would argue that the number of very small penises is likely much higher than what is listed here due to genetic mutations.


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I am about 7.1 erect length bone pressed on a good day and it seems small to me.

If I had the “average” as the op says I would feel horrible to be honest. I guess it’s all about perception.

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