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Pre-Stretching Tunica to allow more Girth Expansion

Good thread who spurred these thoughts? :-o

I know it seems like after hanging a couple months once I did girth exercises again it was very easy to expand way beyond my pervious plateau. I don’t do my girth routine between sets like Girtha did, but I hang my 3 sets and then do my girth routine which is clamping jelqs and ulis. I think its working great.


September 1, 2016 - BPEL: 7.25in MSEG 4.75in EL: 5.5in FG 3.75in FL 3.5in

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This is the kind of pattern I had in mind for the TT

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Should force the tunica forwards and outwards.

Originally Posted by capernicus1
This is the kind of pattern I had in mind for the TT

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Should force the tunica forwards and outwards.

That’s genuis! I was going to do a standard TT but one like that would be a great Secondary source of trauma. So with 2 different TT setups you get 4 trauma patterns total when you rotate them.

So, doing 2 sessions per week and 2 sets on 1 TT (one with each lateral orientation) you get fresh trauma 4 times out of the week no matter which way you slice it.

Day 1: Stretch warmup
standard TT 120 seconds
standard TT reversed for 120 seconds.
massage warmdown

Day 2 and 3 rest

Day 4: Stretch warmup
angled TT 120 seconds
angled TT reversed for 120 seconds
massage warmdown

Day 5, 6, and 7 rest.

Or you can get all different trauma doing a proximal to distal orientation change and not need a standard TT at all!

I’ll pursue that for the body of my workout and maybe start a TT this I-phase instead of next I-phase.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

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Guys, not a criticism, just an observation: I think the aspect of the TT that makes it so effective is not being recognized: the teeth of the device are exactly 180 degrees out of phase with the teeth on the other side of the device. This is THE critical design aspect of the device; it allows for the tissues constrained by the teeth…well, riges actually.
..to be strained more than a symetrical, in phase, alignment of the teeth. This is how length gains are genetated by the TT.

With espect to designing a cylinder to effect TT-like defmation, based on the information in the paragraph above, the most effective design wpuld incorporate a spiral ridge impingement element whete the position pf the ridge in side the cylinder is located sch that for any position on he ridge, the position of the ridge at the same distance from the entetance of the cylinder, but on the exact opposite side of the cylinder, would be exactly ome half wavelength offset from the other side of the cylinder…i.e. 180 degrees out of phase with each other.

When ridges are in phase, it’s really just the same as multiple cable clamps mechanistically.

BTW, the spiral ridged cylinder would allow for remarkable specificity of discretized deformation…just rotate the cylinder between vacuum applications to target the next neighboring tissue volume…

Meant to be helpful.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

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Originally Posted by xenolith
Guys, not a criticism, just an observation: I think the aspect of the TT that makes it so effective is not being recognized: the teeth of the device are exactly 180 degrees out of phase with the teeth on the other side of the device. This is THE critical design aspect of the device; it allows for the tissues constrained by the teeth…well, riges actually.
..to be strained more than a symetrical, in phase, alignment of the teeth. This is how length gains are genetated by the TT.

xeno

Completely understood.
My idea was for something that would specifically force the squeezed item sideways to directly hit girth.

This makes me wonder. That’s all. Much respect xeno, for your correction. The design and purpose and mechanism of the device is your forte, I’ll defer to you in this case.

I’ll start standard and experiment later with other angles if I feel adventurous. Which may be never. I was just trying to think outside of the box.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm 7 years in and counting. Put the work in then the gains will come. All you have to do is keep the faith.

Lots of great info and ideas coming into this thread…I’m sure that much good will come from it. Given dickerschwanz’s original postulation that straining the longitudinal tunica fibers prior to straining the circumferential fibers would be advantageous, I thought it important to try to provide some clarity on that being the design objective of the TT.
BTW, I think it was cap that suggested building a vacuum chamber with ridges…i.e. not a cylinder. One could experiment with a sun tea jar and multiple cable clamps…primarily agirth excercise, but a heck of a good one I expect.

And BD…was on it…a spiral ridge in the tube…I may need to build this.

What to use for the spiral ridge…?

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

The tiger trap, tunica tenderizer, etc - are squeezing an already erect and clamped off unit. This spiral tube snake device, the erect unit would have to go through the spiral. Might work anyway.

Maybe the device is a spiral corkscrew tube thing that you screw on to a clamped, lubed unit, and keep spinning it to move the strain ellipses up or down like a barber pole.

Maybe this tubesnake device has a sphincter at the opening of the tube. So you can enter erect, then close the sphincter to clamp, then do the spin or the pump or whatever it may be.


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Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
The tiger trap, tunica tenderizer, etc - are squeezing an already erect and clamped off unit. This spiral tube snake device, the erect unit would have to go through the spiral. Might work anyway.

Maybe the device is a spiral corkscrew tube thing that you screw on to a clamped, lubed unit, and keep spinning it to move the strain ellipses up or down like a barber pole.

Maybe this tubesnake device has a sphincter at the opening of the tube. So you can enter erect, then close the sphincter to clamp, then do the spin or the pump or whatever it may be.

Another great concept.

I love these kind of brainstorming threads, PE needs more of this even if 99% of it never comes to anything.

Originally Posted by xenolith
Makes oodles of sense. The same notion is at work in the Ninja IPR Protocol that posted here: xenolith - Finding xeno: a penis tale

Using the TT, TTr and multiple cable clamp exercises prior to performing PE4F pumping is intended to cause discreet locations of tunica trauma over the as much of the shaft as possible, then follow that with short duration, high intensity tunica tension to stretch out all of those areas of tunica trauma.

It’s worked great for me; I know that I can grow indefinitely with this knowledge. Really think tunica disruption is the way to post-newbie gains…and disruption of such tough tissue requires that forces be focused in order to actually achieve disruption. How does one do this? Multiple cable clamps, TT and TTr. There may be other ways, I’d love to know of them if the exist.

xeno

I’ve been experimenting with the multiple clamp idea. Glad to see it’s been validated by others, so I’m not squeezing in the dark. I’m doing it for the same reason listed, that it seems to introduce a great deal of expansion in a small area, as opposed to trying to do the whole thing at once. It’s an isolation idea as opposed to full-body training, similar to mass-gain v. crossfit in body building/working out.

I’ve also come to the same conclusion about stretching prior to girth. I stretch between girth sets as well. No doubt it seems to help both length and girth, or so it seems.

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This thread has inspired me to come up with a new exercise. It may exist already, if it does, let me know what it is called. If it doesn’t, feel free to give it a name, because when you try this, you’re going to love it and use it. (Advanced PEers ONLY)

Basically you start with an ULI with your right hand, grip the glans with your left and pull for a good stretch, then you very slowly work your right hand towards the glans in a jelqing motion. The idea isn’t so much to jelq, but to keep lateral expansion while you have a full stretch going. It is very intense, and you need to be very aware of how your dick is feeling, the stretch seems like it could be overdone VERY easily with this exercise. It is also murder on the hands, and gets tiring pretty quickly.

It seems like so much of PE is like trying to overload a bridge or some other structure by adding more force or weight to the area that is designed to hold said force or weight. Sure, you can overload it and see gains, thousands of people have, but it may not be the most efficient route. This exercise, as well as the TT, I’m sure, are designed to create loads and forces that are unnatural to the structure of the penis. This exercise in particular I think of as pulling on a bridge from both sides with semi-trucks while adding a load in the center. Sure, the center load may be designed for, but the pull from the sides severely weakens the structural integrity and the ability to hold a load.


Starting Stats: BPEL 5.5" EG 4.4" -- Current: BPEL 6.9" EG 4.95" -- Short Term Goal BPEL 7", EG 5.25" -- Ultimate Goal : BPEL 7.5" EG 5.75"

Originally Posted by Ddiggity
This thread has inspired me to come up with a new exercise. It may exist already, if it does, let me know what it is called. If it doesn’t, feel free to give it a name, because when you try this, you’re going to love it and use it. (Advanced PEers ONLY)

Basically you start with an ULI with your right hand, grip the glans with your left and pull for a good stretch, then you very slowly work your right hand towards the glans in a jelqing motion. The idea isn’t so much to jelq, but to keep lateral expansion while you have a full stretch going. It is very intense, and you need to be very aware of how your dick is feeling, the stretch seems like it could be overdone VERY easily with this exercise. It is also murder on the hands, and gets tiring pretty quickly.

It seems like so much of PE is like trying to overload a bridge or some other structure by adding more force or weight to the area that is designed to hold said force or weight. Sure, you can overload it and see gains, thousands of people have, but it may not be the most efficient route. This exercise, as well as the TT, I’m sure, are designed to create loads and forces that are unnatural to the structure of the penis. This exercise in particular I think of as pulling on a bridge from both sides with semi-trucks while adding a load in the center. Sure, the center load may be designed for, but the pull from the sides severely weakens the structural integrity and the ability to hold a load.

What you describe sounds like a Horse 440 Squeeze but in reverse. Still, a great idea.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm 7 years in and counting. Put the work in then the gains will come. All you have to do is keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
What you describe sounds like a Horse 440 Squeeze but in reverse. Still, a great idea.

Yes, that is a really good way to describe it. Instead of compressing the shaft from both ends, you are pulling at one end (glans) and compressing at the other (from base towards glans). Though I guess it is not quite reverse.

If a Horse 440 is > === <, this would be > === >.

I’ll be interested to see if this is more of a girth exercise, a length exercise, or a total volume exercise. I’m leaning toward the latter. While the compression part is for girth, and you can really feel it working, two hands applying force in the same direction really gets both the ligs and the tunica stretched (it actually isolates the tunica very well).

I’ll keep at this for a month or two, and let everyone know how it works out.


Starting Stats: BPEL 5.5" EG 4.4" -- Current: BPEL 6.9" EG 4.95" -- Short Term Goal BPEL 7", EG 5.25" -- Ultimate Goal : BPEL 7.5" EG 5.75"

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