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Passing it on

Originally Posted by Cock Kent
Parenting is very personal thing. My point of view is passing penis insecurities to your sons makes you a bad father. I’d rather be an evil bastard than take the chance of being a bad father any-day.


I agree with that, and I suppose I don’t look at it as an insecurity thing. I look at it as a piece of male knowledge, about ones relationship as a male with the world.

My parents divorced when I was about 11. My father went through massive depression, and basically abandoned his duties. I’m the eldest of 3 children, my brother and my sister do not talk to him, but I do because I remember how he was. When I was about 14 he told me to think of him as a friend rather than a father, and to be honest, I wouldnt have a person like him as a friend. It makes me sad to say that.

So, I suppose I’m a bit tainted in my views. But I do see this as knowledge, and knowledge should be passed on in my opinion. What a person does with that knowledge is up to them.

Originally Posted by protoNation
I don’t have any kids, but I’ve wondered about this topic myself. There’s a couple things to take into account, of course. For one, general knowledge of statistics like normal sizes and ranges can actually be pretty comforting by itself. I remember in high school, all the kids bragging about having 8 inches or 9 inches, and then when I was in the shower, I’d be one of the smallest. At the same time, I didn’t realize that I had an unusually high flaccid:erect ratio (something like 1:3). Of course teenagers brag and add inches, but I didn’t know that, so learning the true statistics (something I learned here) was important.

Also, if it was something that bothered me when I was 14-15, enough that I started looking on the internet, would it be something that bothered my sons when they reached that age? Would I have to start worrying about them looking on the internet and trying to find this information out for themselves? And to that end, would I have to worry about them being immature in the way of approaching it and overdoing it, possibly injuring themselves? I know I overdid it when I first started PE and didn’t really grow up in how I handled it (pun intended) for several years. Would it be better to be upfront and warn them about the possible dangers of it, or is that opening a can of worms that you can’t close back up?

Ultimately, though, the most important lesson they would need to learn is that as nice as it is, having a big dick won’t make you happy & solve your problems by itself. Being self-confident, compassionate, and a loving and caring person/lover are infinitely more important. Instead of trying to give them information on PE, should I be focusing on their own personal image? It seems like if you teach someone to be conscious of how they see themselves and teach them properly how to improve themselves, if penis size comes up, they’ll approach it from a much healthier place.

Good post, protoNation. I don’t think it has to be an either/or, but a both. As a father you can you let your son in on PE AND teach him to be self confident, compassionate, and a caring person. I think a lot of people on here have been looking at the paradigm as if you let your son in on PE, he’s going to think he’s inadequate, or he will be a manwhore, or he’ll be cocky/arrogant, or he’ll hurt himself. I think if you’re raising your son to be a good man, then letting him in on PE won’t affect him as greatly. If you’re not investing that time and energy into your son to raise him as a fine young man, then don’t bother letting him in on PE.


Starting stats- BP 5x4.5 (2002) Current stats- PBEL 7.25x5.25 (2012) PE is a marathon, not a sprint!

Originally Posted by Cock Kent
Agree with sunny here.

I’ve posted this before. I have 21 and 24 year old sons. My oldest son told me awhile back that he will always appreciate that I wasn’t like other dads that try and live my life though him. I get this vibe about these threads about telling your sons.

Let your kids find their own path in life and be there if they ask for help.

You saw the smoke, figured out the fire, jumped to help and ultimately it was your son’s decision. IMO this is a great example of being a good father/parent. :up:

Parenting is very personal thing. My point of view is passing penis insecurities to your sons makes you a bad father. I’d rather be an evil bastard than take the chance of being a bad father any-day.

Did you let your sons in on PE, Cock Kent?


Starting stats- BP 5x4.5 (2002) Current stats- PBEL 7.25x5.25 (2012) PE is a marathon, not a sprint!

Originally Posted by stuzilla
I agree with that, and I suppose I don’t look at it as an insecurity thing. I look at it as a piece of male knowledge, about ones relationship as a male with the world.

My parents divorced when I was about 11. My father went through massive depression, and basically abandoned his duties. I’m the eldest of 3 children, my brother and my sister do not talk to him, but I do because I remember how he was. When I was about 14 he told me to think of him as a friend rather than a father, and to be honest, I wouldnt have a person like him as a friend. It makes me sad to say that.

So, I suppose I’m a bit tainted in my views. But I do see this as knowledge, and knowledge should be passed on in my opinion. What a person does with that knowledge is up to them.


A lot of guys feel this way. That it is valuable knowledge that should be passed on. They don’t look at it as a psychological thing.


Starting stats- BP 5x4.5 (2002) Current stats- PBEL 7.25x5.25 (2012) PE is a marathon, not a sprint!

Its also not just the enlargement knowledge. There is a wealth of information regarding male health in respect to erectile disfunction, premature ejaculation, supplements etc. These things may not be part of our lives right now, but they could be in the future. Educating your male children before these things happen could save them from mental anguish and feelings of isolation if they do occur.

Probably one of the main topics we should approach is sensible masturbation, many people here have said that they think that their premature ejaculation problems have been down to bad pubescent masturbation techniques. These errors are not taught in mainstream education and society, and really it should be the parents who teach these things. Help them to discover themselves, sensibly.

These things are not going to be easy to approach, but they will aid our own descendants and their sexual partners. It could also add to their overall quality of life IMHO. Plus never forget to tell them it is their responsibility to pass it on to the next generation.

Originally Posted by stuzilla
Its also not just the enlargement knowledge. There is a wealth of information regarding male health in respect to erectile disfunction, premature ejaculation, supplements etc. These things may not be part of our lives right now, but they could be in the future. Educating your male children before these things happen could save them from mental anguish and feelings of isolation if they do occur.

Probably one of the main topics we should approach is sensible masturbation, many people here have said that they think that their premature ejaculation problems have been down to bad pubescent masturbation techniques. These errors are not taught in mainstream education and society, and really it should be the parents who teach these things. Help them to discover themselves, sensibly.

These things are not going to be easy to approach, but they will aid our own descendants and their sexual partners. It could also add to their overall quality of life IMHO. Plus never forget to tell them it is their responsibility to pass it on to the next generation.

So true. Good post, stuzilla! Someone private messaged me an interesting tidbit: there are tons of books to deal with girls and the changes they go through, but there’s very little out there for boys. It falls on us to talk to our sons about these things with them and help them discover themselves.


Starting stats- BP 5x4.5 (2002) Current stats- PBEL 7.25x5.25 (2012) PE is a marathon, not a sprint!

I will probably clue my son in to PE when he’s in college - and maybe by that time (he’s 15 now) I’ll have left Thunders. I don’t want him reading my posts about having anal with my wife or the BJs I’ve gotten or what ever. But we have a great relationship, so I’ll consider giving him some manly advice when he’s no longer a minor.


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Originally Posted by jimbeaux
I will probably clue my son in to PE when he’s in college - and maybe by that time (he’s 15 now) I’ll have left Thunders. I don’t want him reading my posts about having anal with my wife or the BJs I’ve gotten or what ever. But we have a great relationship, so I’ll consider giving him some manly advice when he’s no longer a minor.

I’ll probably do this as well. BTW jimbeaux, who is that in your avatar pic?


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Originally Posted by higherone

So true. Good post, stuzilla! Someone private messaged me an interesting tidbit: there are tons of books to deal with girls and the changes they go through, but there’s very little out there for boys. It falls on us to talk to our sons about these things with them and help them discover themselves.

Thanks. I find the book thing interesting. Puberty for me, as I’m sure it was for many, was a very isolated experience. I look back and think, well I survived that, so I can pretty much survive anything.

I will not be passing PE along to my son unless he asks if it works or seems to have some isuues with his penis.

“Here is this Pandora’s Box - now open it son”

I think it all depends on how close you are with your family, and what you can talk to them about with out getting wierded out. I was never close with my father, so if he brought up PE to me it would have deffinatly wierded me out. My brother I’m somewhat close to but we never talk about sex or anything like that so PE isnt a subject we could talk about together.


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Originally Posted by G.I.Jelq
I think it all depends on how close you are with your family, and what you can talk to them about with out getting wierded out. I was never close with my father, so if he brought up PE to me it would have deffinatly wierded me out. My brother I’m somewhat close to but we never talk about sex or anything like that so PE isnt a subject we could talk about together.

I think that’s probably the bigger issue, being able to talk to your son. It’s not so much the PE itself. It’s the awkward conversations about penises. If you’re talking openly, honestly, and regularly with your son, then he’ll be more likely to listen to you. Of course all of the concerns about giving your son a complex about size, etc. are real. If you’re talking to your son openly and honestly then he’ll know that’s not his issue. He’ll understand that letting him in on PE doesn’t mean he’s small any more than letting him in on lifting weights means he’s scrawny. It’s about information that isn’t publicly understood to work. You’re telling him it works and you do it. What he does with it from there is his business. At the very minimum he doesn’t do it, but you’ve been more open and honest with your son. If you can’t trust your family, who can you trust.


Starting stats- BP 5x4.5 (2002) Current stats- PBEL 7.25x5.25 (2012) PE is a marathon, not a sprint!

For those of you who feel they should share this with their sons I have to ask what is the motivation? Penis health? Plenty of men grow up not knowing about PE and have healthy penises. PE means penis enlargement. Why do you fellows feel the need to share that with someone who has expressed no issue with his size?

WestLA, your son usually doesn’t come to you expressing any issue with puberty either, but you talk to your son about that. Why? Because you want your son to know the facts. In the 70’s, dads gave the “the birds and bees talk”. In the 80’s and 90’s, dads added safe sex and condoms to the talk. In the 2000’s guys that know about PE can add that to the talk. It’s a sign of the times. Kids usually don’t come to their dads with problems and issues, for many reasons. But usually they just don’t. If your son doesn’t bring up an issue with safe sex, should you as a dad just not talk about it? Of course not. It’s up to the father to be a father to their son, and I’m not talking just PE. It’s definitely not for everyone, but for some guys on here they choose that for their sons. What their son does with that information after that is up to him.


Starting stats- BP 5x4.5 (2002) Current stats- PBEL 7.25x5.25 (2012) PE is a marathon, not a sprint!

If your daughter doesn’t complain about small breasts would you talk to her about breast enlargement options?

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