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Passing it on

Originally Posted by avocet8
When I was in 7th grade (we’re talking decades ago) all the boys were ushered into one holding area, the girls were taken into the gym. When they left the gym, we boys were taken in, for a film.

They basically still do that, except now it’s in the 5th grade because the kids are hitting puberty earlier these days.


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God help our kids.

Unless they come to the films with protractors and half moon scales.


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avocet8

Originally Posted by higherone

They basically still do that, except now it’s in the 5th grade because the kids are hitting puberty earlier these days.

So many people say this. Is it actually true or just something repeated? Hormones in the beef/water?

According to the Mayo Clinic, puberty normally begins in girls between ages 8 and 12 and in boys between ages 9 and 14. I’ve also read somewhere that youth in general are maturing about 5 years earlier than youth 200 years ago. It is attributed to better nutrition. To put in in perspective, a 10 year old is in the 4th grade; a 14 year old in the 8th grade. That’s why I say it depends on your son’s maturity, and not just physically. Most importantly is your sons social and emotional maturity. And like Clemski said, “have continued talks about PE, penis health, accurate statistics, sex in more depth, the actual importance of size in the scope of life. Opening a dialogue is only going to deepen your relationship with your son, and you will be able to mitigate some of his own insecurities be it penis size or acne or anything.” It’s bigger than just PE. It’s about raising your son so that he grows into a well rounded healthy man.


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Last edited by higherone : 01-23-2011 at .

Originally Posted by higherone

…the actual importance of size in the scope of life.

Huh? I hope you mean that there isn’t any importance. Otherwise you’re advocating “passing it on” for the very reason I’m against it. Promoting the “a big dick makes your life better” porn myth.

That was originally posted by Clemski last week. I just quoted him. I interpreted it to mean let your son know that size isn’t a big deal at all in the grand scope of things. What’s more important is how you treat people, being well rounded, working hard, etc. I think you interpreted it much differently than me.

It’s naive to think for a second that teenage boys aren’t concerned about their size as they go through puberty, be it muscularity, body fat, penis size, athleticism, etc. Even the guy in the old video from the 1950’s addressed it. Kids talk to each other, and often spread misinformation, perpetuated by movies, TV, porn, etc. “Size matters” is promoted in the media constantly. On top of that, there’s been a strong surge in the last few decades of the “ideal” physical features of men- muscular, 6 pack, “action hero” look, etc. These issues are there regardless of PE. It’s up to fathers to let their sons know the facts and put everything in perspective.

I think where you and I disagree is that telling your son about PE somehow promotes the big dick makes your life better myth. What I think is the myth is there already in society, regardless if you let your son in on PE or not. It definitely can promote that myth if you just throw PE at him and don’t talk to your son, for sure. And regardless on if you let your son in on PE or not, you as a father should let your son know the proper perspective on all of these issues for balance in life.


Starting stats- BP 5x4.5 (2002) Current stats- PBEL 7.25x5.25 (2012) PE is a marathon, not a sprint!

My 5 year old is always walking around the house with his pants off pulling on his penis (stretching it out), so I told him “boy if you keep stretching that thing like that it’s going to be huge!”
You should see the look on his face - then he started asking me “really daddy, really?” I said “yeah, probably - it will probably get so big it will drag on the floor, so you better be careful.” and I walked away

What do you guys think?

Originally Posted by higherone
It is attributed to better nutrition.

On the other hand I have also heard that it is influenced by the amount of environmental estrogen. Girls seem to be maturing earlier, and boys appear to be maturing later.

Originally Posted by higherone
Even the guy in the old video from the 1950’s addressed it.

Actually that video is a lot better than the one we saw. Much more information, from Boy to Man was rather vague.

Originally Posted by higherone

According to the Mayo Clinic, puberty normally begins in girls between ages 8 and 12 and in boys between ages 9 and 14. I’ve also read somewhere that youth in general are maturing about 5 years earlier than youth 200 years ago. It is attributed to better nutrition.

Very interesting. There is an evolutionary theory that goes along the lines that life spans decrease when there is plenty, this makes room for younger generations which allows for rapid evolutionary movement. So a lowering of sexual maturing age would also increase gene pool variance as well.

Originally Posted by regressnoway
My 5 year old is always walking around the house with his pants off pulling on his penis (stretching it out), so I told him “boy if you keep stretching that thing like that it’s going to be huge!”
You should see the look on his face - then he started asking me “really daddy, really?” I said “yeah, probably - it will probably get so big it will drag on the floor, so you better be careful.” and I walked away

What do you guys think?

LOL —Reminded me of when I’d make a face and my parents would say if you keep doing that it’s going to stay that way.


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Originally Posted by regressnoway
My 5 year old is always walking around the house with his pants off pulling on his penis (stretching it out), so I told him “boy if you keep stretching that thing like that it’s going to be huge!”
You should see the look on his face - then he started asking me “really daddy, really?” I said “yeah, probably - it will probably get so big it will drag on the floor, so you better be careful.” and I walked away

What do you guys think?

This got me thinking, if your son grew up knowing about PE (like regressnoway seems like he’s doing in a way), would that make your son less likely or more likely to get into PE as a young man, or have no difference. Also, would it just be common and have no impact on any size issues or would it make size issues more likely? Since we all want what’s best for our sons, this would be interesting to know.


Starting stats- BP 5x4.5 (2002) Current stats- PBEL 7.25x5.25 (2012) PE is a marathon, not a sprint!

Size was something I always struggled with as a young man. It wasn’t until recently that it doesn’t bother me anymore. So If I could do something to give my kids a confidence boost I’m all for it.

As a younger guy(21), I can appreciate a different perspective than a father. I agree with westLa-90069 in the way that a father shouldn’t bring it up unless their son brings it up first, and even then, err on the side of over cautious—less is more method!

I think Kegels would be a better topic to bring up. I learned about Kegels from an Ebook package on all topics sexual when I was 15, which seems to be the age when most guys here say they’d talk about PE with their son. I wouldn’t find out about PE for another two years, but when I did, I had a leg up on most newbies in the way that I’d already been doing 100 kegels a day for years and also multi-orgasmic exercises from one of the books. The Kegel practice helped me in my first sexual encounters IMMENSELY! Even though I was embarrassed about my size, the way I could last or have no refractory period more than made up for it.

All in all, I think if it’s a health issue, Kegels are more important for overall sexual health. If it’s a size issue, PE is where it’s at.

Know thyself, Know your kid, use caution not to pass on your feelings of inadequacy, and just be sensible. After all, that’s the number one rule of PE

Originally Posted by regressnoway
My 5 year old is always walking around the house with his pants off pulling on his penis (stretching it out), so I told him “boy if you keep stretching that thing like that it’s going to be huge!”
You should see the look on his face - then he started asking me “really daddy, really?” I said “yeah, probably - it will probably get so big it will drag on the floor, so you better be careful.” and I walked away

What do you guys think?

I was talking about this the other day with one of my PE buddies. He made a interesting point. He said, “If you grew up with your dad smoking pot, that would be normal to you. If you grew up with your dad being gay, that would be normal to you. If you grew up with your dad in the military, that would be normal to you. If you grew up with your dad doing PE, it’d just be normal to you.” That being said, I wouldn’t force PE on my son. Just like I wouldn’t force any of my hobbies on my son.


Starting stats- BP 5x4.5 (2002) Current stats- PBEL 7.25x5.25 (2012) PE is a marathon, not a sprint!

Originally Posted by Bhang
Size was something I always struggled with as a young man. It wasn’t until recently that it doesn’t bother me anymore. So If I could do something to give my kids a confidence boost I’m all for it.

Just be careful not to pass your insecurities on to your sons.


Starting stats- BP 5x4.5 (2002) Current stats- PBEL 7.25x5.25 (2012) PE is a marathon, not a sprint!

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