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Other excercises for PE that will help

Ok I am sure you know about these but I am also sure that most of you go idle about it.
So I am posting to remind:
Jogging and free squats excercises will help you in the PE session. Try to jog every other day for 25 mins in slight inclination and have 90 free squats daily done in 3x30 sets with a 1 min break.
This will improve overal circulation condition (and groin zone specifically) and most of all your penis’.

Important Note: Remember to go for them not with a heavy stomach but with some energy intake about 2 hours before workout(2 medium loafs of bread with peanut butter and an orange afterwards will do fine I think).

Care to explain why?
I’ve been a jogger for years. No side effects noticed on Mr. Winkey.
I’ve also been a weightlifter / bodybuilder for even longer.
Still no growth seen from doing squats.

-sexpilot

Going on weightlifting as bodybuilding will do nothing to your penis, on the contrary it will hinder your progress.The deal is increase your blood quantity output in the cardiovascular channels.Being a bodybuilder/weightlifter will do the opposite, as more blood would be required to fill your extra-excessive muscle mass.For best health you should be lean and strong with less muscle mass possible (less weight possible).

To become stronger try increasing your actual strength(increase the number of muscle fibers that collaborate in a joint move inside a muscle that contracts) and not your strength potential(number of fibers in a muscle:develops as hypertrophy).

Also note that extended hypertrophy workout (done by slow, controlled rep sets) will tend in time to replace your fast contraction fibers by slow ones, so you are going to lose on your speed and quickness.

Your health goal should be to retain maximal aerobic condition while your daily-life routine and be also as strong as possible for your body weight to perform at best.Your cardio condition is related to your body weight and to direct it for the better you have to weight less. So stick on improving your cardio-stamina by losing mass and train your kinetic system to perform on you like a gymnast or a martial arts champion.


Last edited by largosomalia : 03-25-2002 at .

>Going on weightlifting as bodybuilding will do nothing to your penis, on the contrary it will hinder your progress.The deal is increase your blood quantity output in the cardiovascular channels.Being a bodybuilder/weightlifter will do the opposite, as more blood would be required to fill your extra-excessive muscle mass.For best health you should be lean and strong with less muscle mass possible (less weight possible).<

What are you suggesting by this? That by increasing your muscle mass you will not be able to increase the size of your penis because the blood would be used up fueling the muscles? Increased muscle mass does NOT inhibit systemic circulation, quite the opposite in fact, all things being equal, a bodybuilder’s systemic circulation will be better than an untrained man. Dont forget, we can actually make new blood cells! In fact, we make about 20 million new red blood cells per second!

>To become stronger try increasing your actual strength(increase the number of muscle fibers that collaborate in a joint move inside a muscle that contracts) and not your strength potential<

This will aid PE how…..

>(number of fibers in a muscle:develops as hypertrophy).<

Training will not increase the number of fibers in a muscle, the myostatin gene prevents this. The existing fibers will increase in size through bodybuilding.

>Also note that extended hypertrophy workout (done by slow, controlled rep sets) will tend in time to replace your fast contraction fibers by slow ones, so you are going to lose on your speed and quickness.<

Hypertrophy specific training will directly target fast twitch muscle fibers! It is the amount of resistance used and time under tension, not the speed of contraction that will affect fiber ratio. A typical bodybuilding set lasts about 30 seconds, with a rest period of 2-3 minutes before the next set, using heavy weights. This hits the fast twitch fibers. A 60min jog on the other hand, with no resistance WILL cause the effect you describe.

>Your health goal should be to retain maximal aerobic condition while your daily-life routine and be also as strong as possible for your body weight to perform at best.Your cardio condition is related to your body weight and to direct it for the better you have to weight less. So stick on improving your cardio-stamina by losing mass and train your kinetic system to perform on you like a gymnast or a martial arts champion.<

I agree with this apart from the last sentance, even where a high level of hypertrophy is reached increasing relative strength and cardiovascular condition is beneficial not only for increasing future gains but for the daily life carry over, but being big does not have to mean having a weak aerobic capacity. Again though, relevance to PE?

I love a good debate
SS4

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Originally posted by ThunderSS
Then Largo here is your man. Seems he will debate like there is no tomorrow. What's the topic? Clocks?? :)

lol, dont get me started!

SS4

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>What are you suggesting by this? That by increasing your muscle mass you will not be able to increase the size of your penis because the blood would be used up fueling the muscles? Increased muscle mass does NOT inhibit systemic circulation, quite the opposite in fact, all things being equal, a bodybuilder’s systemic circulation will be better than an untrained man. Dont forget, we can actually make new blood cells! In fact, we make about 20 million new red blood cells per second!

Totally untrained might be(about systemic circulation).But not of that of a marathon athlete or a nature’s routine man which is the standard.
I didn’t say you will not be able to icrease the size of your penis, just that your progress will be more impedimented.
Blood cell genesis is a fact. But there is a limit balance equation between the circulation efficiency and the organic body mass ( defined by genetics ).

>This will aid PE how….

Not directly. It’s a general advice

>Training will not increase the number of fibers in a muscle, the myostatin gene prevents this. The existing fibers will increase in size through bodybuilding.

It’s true. But every fiber contains contraction mechanisms that can be seen as fiber units as they are in a parallel syntax and make up the fiber. These “fibers” I am talking about. I thought it wasn’t necessary analize this and present it with the more simplistic sceme I did.

>Hypertrophy specific training will directly target fast twitch muscle fibers! It is the amount of resistance used and time under tension, not the speed of contraction that will affect fiber ratio. A typical bodybuilding set lasts about 30 seconds, with a rest period of 2-3 minutes before the next set, using heavy weights. This hits the fast twitch fibers. A 60min jog on the other hand, with no resistance WILL cause the effect you describe.

Not true. Fibre contraction elasticity is a fact. Not every tension is alike to the fibres elastic reflexes ( in fact some abuses in specific movements have plastic consequences ). With body-building using slow reps slow twitch muscle fibres will see hypertrophy and increase the members weight. If the fast twitch fibers are not trained for a contraction strong enough to surpass the extra weight of the increased body mass of the member you will end up bigger but slower in some of the members motions.

>Your health goal should be to retain maximal aerobic condition while your daily-life routine and be also as strong as possible for your body weight to perform at best.Your cardio condition is related to your body weight and to direct it for the better you have to weight less. So stick on improving your cardio-stamina by losing mass and train your kinetic system to perform on you like a gymnast or a martial arts champion.<

I agree with this apart from the last sentance, even where a high level of hypertrophy is reached increasing relative strength and cardiovascular condition is beneficial not only for increasing future gains but for the daily life carry over, but being big does not have to mean having a weak aerobic capacity. Again though, relevance to PE?

>What I have to quote here stands in the meaning of the above quotations.

I love a good debate
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Horrible advice

Largo,

This has to be some of the absolute worst advice ever given.
There hav been worse, but this ranks pretty high too.

Over the years, I have seen plenty of bodybuilders-weight lifters who gained in PE without problems.

I wish BIG AL was here to put you into your place. :-)
He is not a body-builder but A Power-lifter.

Telling people to stop their weight training which makes them feel better about themselves and gets them more women is horrible advice.

I don’t with to further waste my time arguing this either.

Re: Horrible advice

You are a cool guy man
>Over the years you have seen plenty bodybuiders who have gained in PE without problems.

Are you a bodybuilder dick controler or what?
How many men do you personaly happen to know that are on PE and are bodybuilders at the same time and you also checked their progress?

I never said people to stop weight training. I only adviced to not focus-train the bodybuilding style of slow reps that enhance only hypertrophy. If you do not balance your body so cardio and flexibility status will prevail over your overall stature you are going to be impedimented in your routine activity.

Oh plese note. I consider only natural human physilogy standards.
The body is regulated to balance the hormone activity so train-focus can play a significant role in the final results. There is a balance limit between the muscle mass, its properties, your stature and your cardio efficiency in aerobic activity. Thats why I advice to not focus on slow reps in a way that will overtake your balance towards been bulkier over all cause you are going to lose on others eg speed. Men that are on steroids change their balance limit so there different considerations apply. As I said I am not considering men or bodybuilders that are on drugs.

largosomalia,

>I didn’t say you will not be able to icrease the size of your penis, just that your progress will be more impedimented.
Blood cell genesis is a fact. But there is a limit balance equation between the circulation efficiency and the organic body mass ( defined by genetics ). <

Even if there is some truth to this theory, what matters is how it equates to real world situations. If this were true, then bodybuilders with their increased lean mass would suffer from problems associated with poor circulation, including ED, but this is simply not the case. But, with fat lumps of lard, it is, although this may also be due in part to a lack of cardivascular exercise. Just look at the vascularity of a bodybuilder compared to a marathon runner. And if you think weight lifting cannot provide a demanding enough stimulus for increasing aerobic capacity, you have obviously not tried high rep breathing squats. Throw them into a circuit type workout with other compound movements and your heart will get a better workout than if britney spears just walked out of your bathroom naked.

> Not true. Fibre contraction elasticity is a fact. Not every tension is alike to the fibres elastic reflexes ( in fact some abuses in specific movements have plastic consequences ). With body-building using slow reps slow twitch muscle fibres will see hypertrophy and increase the members weight. If the fast twitch fibers are not trained for a contraction strong enough to surpass the extra weight of the increased body mass of the member you will end up bigger but slower in some of the members motions. <

I’m not saying there is no truth to this at all, most people weight train to get bigger and look good naked, and so train the slow twitch fibers because it is neccesary for THEIR goals, you know, to be more confident and enjoy life more and stuff, not to become a master gymnast.
I understand your point here, but if I am curling a 50kg dumbell, you bet it will move slowly in the concentric phase, but the actual speed that my arm moves is irrelevant, because the muscle fibers are being fired explosively. This is using the type II fibers. There is a time and a place for slow concentrics, in increasing lactate levels for example, but if a guy is working below par you would not expect him to receive optimal results. You bash bodybuilding because it slows you down, but you suggest a workout routine of:

“Try to jog every other day for 25 mins in slight inclination and have 90 free squats daily done in 3x30 sets with a 1 min break.”

Can you say slow-twitch city!?!? A little hole in your argument here, no? jogging for 25 minutes will not help you acheive your speed potential, and why on an inclination??? If you are running uphill you are running more slowly! And sets of 30 reps will not target the fast twtich-ers either.

I understand that you have your goals and that is great, but saying that increased muscle mass will hinder PE progress is completely false, IMO.

SS4

>Even if there is some truth to this theory, what matters is how it equates to real world situations. If this were true, then bodybuilders with their increased lean mass would suffer from problems associated with poor circulation, including ED, but this is simply not the case. But, with fat lumps of lard, it is, although this may also be due in part to a lack of cardivascular exercise. Just look at the vascularity of a bodybuilder compared to a marathon runner. And if you think weight lifting cannot provide a demanding enough stimulus for increasing aerobic capacity, you have obviously not tried high rep breathing squats. Throw them into a circuit type workout with other compound movements and your heart will get a better workout than if britney spears just walked out of your bathroom naked.

Actually I advised to do high rep squats. What I do not advise is to mainly focus over slow mass building reps over strength or cadio conditioning.
Suffer is a heavy word. But have a bodybuilder run a marathon or compare his capacity of prolonged sex (if this interests you more) e.g. pornmovie type to that of a normal man to get my point.Weights usage can help aerobic but not by the bodybuilding style.

>I’m not saying there is no truth to this at all, most people weight train to get bigger and look good naked, and so train the slow twitch fibers because it is neccesary for THEIR goals, you know, to be more confident and enjoy life more and stuff, not to become a master gymnast.
I understand your point here, but if I am curling a 50kg dumbell, you bet it will move slowly in the concentric phase, but the actual speed that my arm moves is irrelevant, because the muscle fibers are being fired explosively. This is using the type II fibers. There is a time and a place for slow concentrics, in increasing lactate levels for example, but if a guy is working below par you would not expect him to receive optimal results.

Yeah but if you curl a 50kg dumbell the way you say you definately can’t complete a high rep set using strict-proper technique.This will enhance more force than bodymass.
So no problem here(I do not see where you disagree)

>You bash bodybuilding because it slows you down, but you suggest a workout routine of:

“Try to jog every other day for 25 mins in slight inclination and have 90 free squats daily done in 3x30 sets with a 1 min break.”

Can you say slow-twitch city!?!? A little hole in your argument here, no? jogging for 25 minutes will not help you acheive your speed potential, and why on an inclination??? If you are running uphill you are running more slowly! And sets of 30 reps will not target the fast twtich-ers either.

Increase directly your speed potential no but will help improve your cardio and regulate your weight-mass rapport for a more normal balanced physique from a speed-hindered one.
Why do you say if you are running uphill you are running more slowly?I think speed depends on you(this is no sprint course its a 25 min course)

>I understand that you have your goals and that is great, but saying that increased muscle mass will hinder PE progress is completely false, IMO.

I think that a normal balanced person can easier perform in a PE program.
Thank you.

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