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Is enlargement surgery permanent???

Hey!

Just out of curiosity, how can enlargement surgery (for thickness) be permanent? I mean, you add fat. But dont we burn fat on a regular basis when we exercise etc? How come the fat in our dicks dont get “burned”?

Just a weird, but kind of relevant question

Hey Photon, good to see you posting.


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Originally Posted by iamaru
Hey Photon, good to see you posting.

^^ Thanks

I just hope that someone can explain this fat-thing to me :P

There are different ways of doing enlargement surgery. Not all of them involve fat. It is true that fat is not necessarily unchanging, but there are other materials used which claim to be less mobile.

This is not to recommend any of those methods. I would not trust implantation of any foreign materials into my dick if I could help it.


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If there is PE why would someone go for surgery, it doesn’t make any sense to me, I know you just asked, but yes they take fat from other parts of the body and they put this fat down there, through an operation, and that’s not the end of it, they have to maintain every 6 month, they go again and put fat again, so it’s endless, and the fat may change shape, so it moves, maybe today your down there is fat from the left side and right side, Tomorrow it maybe be left thin and right very fat,or they add silicon, but they often use fat now, they are not into silicon much yet, maybe they are trying to find the right material, it’s a very sensitive organ not like the boobs, you can add a balloon and that’s it :D Got the point, so I don’t advice you if your thinking of it, remove it off your mind, just for the record, :D have a good time.

Look into PMMA.. There are 100s of guys getting this done and I have not heard of a complication to date. PMMA is still VERY new to this use though.

Thanks for the replies guys, but it seems like the main question still is unanswered. Will the body burn of the fat, or will it be lodged inside the penis until the end of time?

@whynotbig
Yes, I understand that it might not be the best way to increase your penis size.

@Cya
Whoa, looked it up on google, and it seems pretty scary imho. “A transparent thermoplastic, often used as a light or shatter-resistant alternative to glass.” :(

Originally Posted by Photon
Thanks for the replies guys, but it seems like the main question still is unanswered. Will the body burn of the fat, or will it be lodged inside the penis until the end of time?

@whynotbig
Yes, I understand that it might not be the best way to increase your penis size.

@Cya
Whoa, looked it up on google, and it seems pretty scary imho. “A transparent thermoplastic, often used as a light or shatter-resistant alternative to glass.” :(

Google pmma injections.. It’s used in plastic surgery.

If your instincts are telling you that having millions of plastic beads injected into the skin of your penis might be a bad idea, listen. PMMA complications can occur years after injection, requiring removal, which could leave the penis a mess of mangled scar tissue and necrotic skin. Or worse, the beads could migrate into the vascular system.

I have read up on this. Those who believe in the procedure claim it is safe if done by a particular physician who uses blunt cannulas and injects deep into the dermis, but it would take years and many honest testimonies before we could begin to address the complication rate of penile PMMA bioplasty.

If one is unusually small (micropenis or borderline), then I could see consideration of this procedure as a means to a potentially normal life. But, if you are within the average range, I would not consider PMMA as a to enlarge the penis.

Originally Posted by Photon
Hey!

Just out of curiosity, how can enlargement surgery (for thickness) be permanent? I mean, you add fat. But dont we burn fat on a regular basis when we exercise etc? How come the fat in our dicks dont get “burned”?

Just a weird, but kind of relevant question

phalloplasty.proboards.com & phalloboards.org
Pretty much a PE-surgery based forum.

Originally Posted by penismith
If your instincts are telling you that having millions of plastic beads injected into the skin of your penis might be a bad idea, listen. PMMA complications can occur years after injection, requiring removal, which could leave the penis a mess of mangled scar tissue and necrotic skin. Or worse, the beads could migrate into the vascular system.

I have read up on this. Those who believe in the procedure claim it is safe if done by a particular physician who uses blunt cannulas and injects deep into the dermis, but it would take years and many honest testimonies before we could begin to address the complication rate of penile PMMA bioplasty.

If one is unusually small (micropenis or borderline), then I could see consideration of this procedure as a means to a potentially normal life. But, if you are within the average range, I would not consider PMMA as a to enlarge the penis.

All of phalloplasty is experimental to date. It is a field that is regarded as taboo in medicine, and practiced by only a handful of physicians as a “specialty” in the Northern Hemisphere! If it were researched, developed, refined, and medically sound like the common nose & boob job, I’d be much more open to advocating it to the average man. However, until stem-cell advances rule the day (and it will probably take some time until stem-cells are advanced enough to enter the arena of cosmetic enhancement), consider phalloplasty and all the available techniques as purely experimental.

In fairness to PMMA, it stands out from the rest of the methods because it isn’t an actual surgery. It is based on injections. This eliminates many risks that are associated with surgery and anesthesia in general. However, penismith is right when asserting that long-term complications are not well known, especially for use in the penis. As far as a “mangled penis” is concerned, no such report of it has ever surfaced to date, either on PhalloBoards or the web. As a matter of fact, PMMA has been used successfully all over the body for many years without reports of major complication (presuming a skilled practitioner, medical-grade PMMA, blunt cannulas, etc). But as we know, the penis is a dynamic organ, and penile bioplasty is relatively new to the PE scene. Phalloplasty has had nothing but decades of horror stories, so PMMA should be treated with as much caution as any other new “method on the block.”

I also agree it will take a lot of time and testimony before really getting a feel for PMMA’s efficacy & safety in the long-term. That highlights the importance of PhalloBoards in general…really being the only initiative to track & map advances in the field of phalloplasty, hopefully as long as possible!

I similarly advocate PMMA for a select type of male. Most notably, those suffering from under-average to micro girths (I originally began this journey with a 3.5 MSEG!). I’m also inclined to be more supportive of men in LTR’s/Marriages who have the support of their significant other, and desire added girth to improve intimacy in the bedroom. That being said, any man choosing to undergo this should only do so as an informed decision maker, understanding that there ARE risks, and should find themselves adversely affected by their girth for rational, sane reasons. This is true for all methods, since not everyone is on the PMMA bandwagon. FFT and Alloderm/Belladerm are still popular options.

Again, I can’t begin to stress it enough, phalloplasty in its current form is not for the average & above-average man. Even those below-average may find that PE exercising may prove a more effective alternative (although in fairness, there are risks inherent with PE exercises too, i.e. injury). One must (with a sound, healthy, rational state of mind) assess the benefits against the risks and make an informed decision before seeking medical intervention in an area of our body that the average man has no real shortcomings with.


S.O. at P.B.


Last edited by Determined2Gain : 01-05-2012 at .

Originally Posted by Photon
^^ Thanks

I just hope that someone can explain this fat-thing to me :P

Fat can and usually does re-absorb back into the body. Most of the time the initial absorption is partial, and this can leave a penis with a lumpier appearance. Because of this, top-offs are almost always inevitable in order to maintain size.

Free Fat Transfers (FFT) are not permanent. If they were, most (temporary) fillers would be out of business. With the advent of Platelet-rich plasma (PRP), fat retention has purportedly improved, requiring less top-offs and a more stable retention. Even with this, there is no evidence that the gains are permanent.

There are a few doctors performing this in the U.S., most notably Dr. Giunta near Washington D.C. I think one member here has had it done (possibly with Dr. Giunta, but I don’t recall for sure) by the name of Big Dipper, but he’ll have to confirm that independently for us.

I personally consider it the most predictable method available in phalloplasty, since long-term risks are very well understood. Its safety record is pretty good, and the only real risks arise from the actual procedure itself (fat harvesting, contact with medical equipment, etc). It’s biggest downside is the need to top-off (frequency varies per patient) in order to maintain size and aesthetics.

Hope that helps.


S.O. at P.B.

Originally Posted by Determined2Gain
In fairness to PMMA, it stands out from the rest of the methods because it isn’t an actual surgery. It is based on injections. This eliminates many risks that are associated with surgery and anesthesia in general. However, penismith is right when asserting that long-term complications are not well known, especially for use in the penis. As far as a “mangled penis” is concerned, no such report of it has ever surfaced to date, either on PhalloBoards or the web. As a matter of fact, PMMA has been used successfully all over the body for many years without reports of major complication (presuming a skilled practitioner, medical-grade PMMA, blunt cannulas, etc). But as we know, the penis is a dynamic organ, and penile bioplasty is relatively new to the PE scene. Phalloplasty has had nothing but decades of horror stories, so PMMA should be treated with as much caution as any other new “method on the block.”

Penile necrosis falls under the definition of “mangled”.

A link to a relevant study found at your site:
Complications After Polymethylmethacrylate Injections

“Five patients presented with tissue necrosis after injection: two male patients had skin and subcutaneous necrosis of the penis after injection for penile enlargement…”

Additionally, at least one of your moderators has publicly stated he has been contacted by patients with penile PMMA complications who don’t wish to post. Another member posted their, “drudge report” where some type of fuzzily diagnosed complication was actually cauterized from their penis.

So, complications are being reported, even when the skilled practitioner injects medical grade PMMA using blunt cannulas, etc.

I am not accusing you of dishonesty. I think you are biased, and I think I would be as well, had I undergone the procedure. You are an optimist and I suspect you are successful in most aspects of life.

Originally Posted by Determined2Gain
I also agree it will take a lot of time and testimony before really getting a feel for PMMA’s efficacy & safety in the long-term. That highlights the importance of PhalloBoards in general…really being the only initiative to track & map advances in the field of phalloplasty, hopefully as long as possible!

I similarly advocate PMMA for a select type of male. Most notably, those suffering from under-average to micro girths (I originally began this journey with a 3.5 MSEG!). I’m also inclined to be more supportive of men in LTR’s/Marriages who have the support of their significant other, and desire added girth to improve intimacy in the bedroom. That being said, any man choosing to undergo this should only do so as an informed decision maker, understanding that there ARE risks, and should find themselves adversely affected by their girth for rational, sane reasons. This is true for all methods, since not everyone is on the PMMA bandwagon. FFT and Alloderm/Belladerm are still popular options.

Again, I can’t begin to stress it enough, phalloplasty in its current form is not for the average & above-average man. Even those below-average may find that PE exercising may prove a more effective alternative (although in fairness, there are risks inherent with PE exercises too, i.e. injury). One must (with a sound, healthy, rational state of mind) assess the benefits against the risks and make an informed decision before seeking medical intervention in an area of our body that the average man has no real shortcomings with.

I agree with all of this. Overall, I am very impressed with you and your site.


Last edited by penismith : 01-06-2012 at .

There are complications with PE in general Penismith. Nothing about PE is complication free. Someone MUST take the plunge in order for the community to benefit from new advancements. So far, I would personally consider having the procedure as I believe it to be as safe as clamping in the short term..

Clamping has it’s own complications and jelqing never worked for me.

penismith,

You are right about that report, that was my mistake. I guess I look at things from the “Tijuana-side” when judging overall complications, so yes there may be some unintentional bias. I try to remain as objective as possible, but optimism is a necessary component to my post-op success lol.


S.O. at P.B.

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