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My Rheinschild SURGERY EXPERIENCE--MUST READ

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My Rheinschild SURGERY EXPERIENCE--MUST READ

I just wanted to come on here and relate my enlargement surgery history and experience in the hopes that it might help anyone who might go down that route. I mentioned this on another thread, but I’m not on here that often. So here it goes:

When I was 16 I happened to be reading a men’s magazine that talked about peyronies disease. The magazine said it was a curvature in penis. My member always curved to the left and being the hypochondriac that I was I thought I had peyronies. Combine that with the fact that as a teenager you hear girls making fun of guys with crooked penises and it really messes with your mind. I went to see a quack urologist who said “yeah, you probably have peyronies. He proceded to give me about 78 shots of verapamil into the left side of my penis, with no parental consent I might add. Consequently what happened is that the left side of my penis got thinner from the scarring caused by the needles. I then went to see a doctor at the cleveland clinic; a doctor who was one of the best in the world and he said that I never had peyronies and that what this doc did was serious malpractice. I never did anything about it. I spent the year and a half seeing different doctors trying to fix the scarring. I tried interferon, potaba, and some topical verapamil cream. Crazy thing is that my penis did become straighter albeit thinner from the shots. I learned about rheinschild when I was 17. He performed a lengthening on me that summer before I turned 18. I lied and said I was already 18. When I met him at his then anaheim clinic he was so nice. He would take the time out to talk to you, to explain everything, to answer questions. One time he even spent 45 min on the phone with me. Heck he even picked me up the morning of my surgery. We had real informative discussions. The surgery went well and I gained about an inch flacid and a 3/4 an inch erect with no complications. I didn’t use the weights as much as I should have or else I would have had a larger result. My curve became less apparent because of how the surgery made my penis longer and the portion that was pulled out of my body was straight.

I spent the next three years getting the confidence to do the thickening procedure. At first rheinschild was doing dermal fat grafts from the butt. Then he tried putting something called pelvicol into men’s penises and that turned out badly because he said the makers lied to him and said it would be okay when it wasn’t. Then he moved to San Louis Obispo(sp?) to the clinic down there and that’s where the story gets interesting. I had my girth surgery 3 or four years ago, I can’t remember. I think it was three. First of all the clinic is a pain management clinic. And rheinschild’s partner was Dr. Keiker(sp?) who was NOT a surgeon but was licensed for pain management. A very nice guy though. Before the surgery I talked to rheinschild for a few min. He seemed really wierd. I’ll get more into that later. But it wasn’t the same guy who did my last surgery years ago. He had me put all the cash for the surgery in his office drawer then he took me in the room and asked me what I wanted to do: either a dermal from my back or alloederm. I asked him what he though and he said he though I should do alloederm because they were having good results with that. Then he said what he can do is take the dermal from my back and then put two strips of alloederm on the graft. I was like “is that going to be okay?” and he said “yeah.” I had the surgery. Everything seemed great for the five days before I flew back home. They asked me if I wanted to be on the referral list. I was like “HELL YEA, NOT ONLY DO I WANT TO BE ON THE REFERAL LIST, BUT I’M COMING BACK IN SIX MONTHS DO DO THIS AGAIN.” When I got back home my dick started, swelling, and swelling and swelling. I had a hematoma and it was painful and black and blue. He told me I should come back out so he could take a look at it. I was in a panic. I flew back out to CA arrrived there in the evening and called his emergency number and asked him if he could take a look at it. I was in tears and tons of pain. He yelled at me saying that he had a personal life too and would NOT look at it now and that he would see me in the morning and he hung up on me. I was staying in some cheap shitty Lucky 7 hotel, which I was everything but. The van was an hour late picking me up. I went to the office and tried to have a real conversation with him. That was when I realized that he was a completely different person. The only example I could give you for how he was like was “rainman.” You know dustin hoffman in the movie of that title. I swear on my life it was like talking to rainman. Like no matter what question you asked him you would never get a direct answer. I’d be like “doctor, I am an intelligent person can you tell me why this is occuring,” and he’d be like “don’t worry we’ll have you patched up”. HE WOULD NEVER ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. EVER. NEVER FUCKING EVER. He wouldn’t even look you in the eye!! Can you imagine having a huge swollen dick.oh yeah forgot to mention this. When I arrived at the clinic I made friends with a staff member. He told me that I was the first person that Rainman ever combined both alloederm and dermis on at the same time. This staff member also said that half of their patents come back with complications since they have started using alloederm. This staff memeber also quit because of the unethical way they were treating their patients. And this staff member made me promise I wouldn’t say anything. So here I am with huge complications feeling like there is some conspiracy going on and I have rainman operating on my dick and he won’t answer any questions. I swear to God you’d ask him a question and he’d be like a broken record saying the same thing. Then he’d say something totally wacked out like “oh you should meet my daughter, she is really into such and such.” Dr. Keiker was the sensible one who said that he feels the same way about rheinschild; that he isn’t quite there anymore and that’s why they are replacing him. He said he is like an idiot savant. That in the operating room his mind is like a laser, but outside no one can deal with him. Can you imagine how frightened you’d be if you had a fucked up dick, a secret staff member talking about how it’s on the hush hush that alloderm is causing all these problems, another staff member looking at your dick and saying “I’m not going to lie, this is getting serious” , dr. Keiker going “man yeah rheinschild is wack,” and then Dr. Rainman never answering your questinos. I remeber staying in that shitty hotel room, doped up on painkillers and xanex with these foreign objects in my dick thinking that I’ve made the worst decision of my life.

The next day, I was waiting to have my surgery cause Rainman was opering on another guy. The guy gets wheeled into my room and Rainman comes in and says “See Bob, now you have a big fat dick.” As they were wheeling me in all I could think about was what another patient said to me earlier that day. He said “Man this place is really run like a back alley kind of operation.” Very true. When I woke up the hematoma was removed. He sowed me back up and sent me back home. The day after I flew back home, the sweling started again. There was another hematoma. I couldn’t get him to call me back. I left a message that I was going to bring my family member out who was a lawyer; they called me back. I came back out, except this time he put a drain in. They would irrigate it with antibiotic fluid. Imagine fluid going through a tube just above your dick, having it satiate your hole crotch and then feel it being sucked out of that hole again. It was torture. I stayed a week this time. Once I was in the clear I went home. I thought it was all over. Then a week later the penis started to swell in a different way. The grafts felt like jello. Like I literally could put my finger through it. It was impossible to get rheinschild on the phone. Dan salas was like “dude that is not supposed to be happening.” It was disgusting. I visited Dr.Whitehead in NY. That was a trip. I paid him 250 bucks to go see him and ask for his advice. The conversation went like this “What do you think I should do?” And he would say “I can’t tell you what to do because you are not my patient.” “I just paid you 250 bucks, I AM your patient.” and he would say “No I didn’t perform the surgery on you. Just wait it out. And once this is over if you want ot come back for some extra widening you should come to me. I am doing this innovative procedure where I actually CUT OPEN THE CORPUS CAVERNOSA” Great I’d love to be your guiney pig. By the way his website no longer offers that revolutionary procedure. I wonder who is walking around dickless because of that. So Rheinschild would never return my calls. Then he would finally get tired of my calling and he said that I should just come back and he would take all the grafts out. Instead I did some research about lymphedema and just put a pressure wrap around my penis for a month and it went away never to return.

I met some interesting patients while I was there. I met a man who was going to get married but apparently something went gravely wrong with his surgery four months prior(he’d been back 5 times) and his fiancee left him. I met a man who had dermals from his ass, and then six months later had a dermal from his back put in. But they got infected. He couldn’t stay the week for treatment so the doctor put a drain in, taught him how to irrigate himself with antibiotics and then sent him on his way, drain hanging out of his groin. The guy was a real trooper. He told me everythign would be alright. I was thinking. Those are some pretty confident words for a man with a drain hanging out of your infected dick. But he gave me hope just the same. I met another man who had a dermal a year ago but was getting the procedure again because there was only a half inch left. Two months after everyhing calmed down I went and saw dr. Alter. He told me that I was lucky. That he can’t believe rheinschild put both alloderm and dermis in at the same time. He thinks thats what caused everyhing. He said if I make to three months then I am in the clear. That if the grafts just disappear, let them go and don’t do this surgery again. He told me he only operates on the people that other doctors fuck up. He got a call while I was in with him. He told his nurse to have the guy call him back. “Now that man,” he said referring to the gentleman on the phone. “A doctor really did a number on that man. You aren’t even in the same league as him.” Alter was the most helpful.

In conclusion at the age of 16 I had a 6 by 5 inch dick. Now I have a 6.75 by 6 inch dick. Is it worth it? Am I really giving a girl THAT much more pleasure? I don’t know. But I know I would never go through it again. If you are considering having this surgery you really need to ask yourself. Are the risks worth it? In other words I made the decision that I didn’t want to live life as I was. That the possible complications from the surgery were equivalent with how my life already was. I was a very warped confused person. Now, I’d rather do PE exercises an hour a day for the rest of my life and achieve the same results. If what you guys say you can do with PE is true then people don’t be lazy fools like I was. I didn’t know you could really gain anything with PE. If you can gain an inch in girth and length by consistently doing something every day, I’d choose being consistant over being lazy, getting an operation that might make it so that you don’t have to do PE. Just my two cents. But by the same token there are people who have this surgery and have no problems. My final conclusion is this. If you are going to do the length surgery go ahead, but do your research. If you are going for girth DO NOT DO ALLOEDERM. Even alter won’t do alloederm. And guess what? The grafts really aren’t that great. They don’t feel like a normal penis. Oh and Rheinschild’s website is now totallly against alloederm. Funny how he changes. He was telling me that all I should get was alloederm. I think you are pretty safe with your own tissue. Don’t’ get your ass cut. YOU WILL HAVE SCARS. I have a nasty one across my lower back. Better the back than the ass, girls like the ass, and they would probably prefer a nice unscarred ass over an inch in girth at most. If you have an average dick 5x5 and you get this surgery you are an idiot as I was. Make sure you know what you are doing. I wish you all the best of luck. I am going to try PE now. I’ve pumped on an off for a year. Done some jelqing but will probably try light clamping a while. But someone said that is really dangerous.

Well I hope this helps someone. Feel free to ask any questions. I’ll be on here once a week and will respond back. It’s kind of good to be able to get this off my chest. I haven’t told anyone this.

Jake

I am so sorry man. That was terrible to read, almost like a horror movie. I hope all is well, and that no one ever goes through this shit again. Someone should take an axe to Rheinschild’s penis!


5/16/06 - BPSFL: 7" BPEL: 6.5" EL: 6" EG: 4.75"

Goal - 7.5"x5.5"

"If your success is not on your own terms, if it looks good to the world but does not feel good in your heart, it is not success at all."

That’s a hell of a story. Thanks for sharing. I’m glad you didn’t lose your dick to all those horrific experiences!

The rainman part was scary! Those butchers should be in jail.

Sounds like Rainman is on drugs dude. He should be struck off! Do they let bad Dr’s keep practising in the States? In the UK he would be banned.
I’m sure I’m not alone in toying with the idea of enlargement surgery. Easy gain of an inch in either direction… I’ll admit I’ve been tempted… But what you say has made me glad I didn’t succumb.

The truth is there are many other ways to improve sex before resorting to surgery. You really need to understand that women think very differently to men about sex. Their sex is a lot more psychological than physical. Therefore we should apply as much effort into improving the psychological experience of sex for them as the physical. If you have an average or larger penis then there is no good reason to risk surgery.


Cheers, G Started at 6 x 4.5 - Jan 05 Current 7.1 x 5.1 Goal 8 x 6

Originally Posted by links1979

Then he’d say something totally wacked out like “oh you should meet my daughter, she is really into such and such.”

What??? I`m almost laughing. Maybe he ment that he has a pervert daughter who likes to suck on big fat broken swollen dicks fresh out of the operating room.

Originally Posted by links1979
I met a man who had dermals from his ass, and then six months later had a dermal from his back put in. But they got infected. He couldn’t stay the week for treatment so the doctor put a drain in, taught him how to irrigate himself with antibiotics and then sent him on his way, drain hanging out of his groin. The guy was a real trooper. He told me everythign would be alright. I was thinking. Those are some pretty confident words for a man with a drain hanging out of your infected dick. But he gave me hope just the same.


Dear Lord, I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry from this.

Thank’s for the warning Jake. Thank you for being so straightforward.


regards, mgus

Taped onto the dashboard of a car at a junkyard, I once found the following: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." The car was crashed.

Primary goal: To have an EQ above average (i.e. streetsmart, compassionate about life and happy) Secondary goal: to make an anagram of my signature denoting how I feel about my gains

This guy is a real quack! Thanks for putting the warning out there for our members to read.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Wow. Terrible experience!

links1979, just out of curiosity, how does a 17-year old afford the surgery and all of the airfare, etc?

Did your parents help out with the costs?


Stats: (10/24/04) : BPEL-7.25", EG-5.5" (01/22/07) : BPEL-7.6", EG-5.6" after 1 year of maintenance

Goal: 8.5" L x 6.5" G

After 8-ball’s experience and yours, I have come to the realization that penis enlargement surgery is a lot like Russian Roulette.


Gut Scramblin' goodness.

Yeah, with 5 rounds in the chamber.


regards, mgus

Taped onto the dashboard of a car at a junkyard, I once found the following: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." The car was crashed.

Primary goal: To have an EQ above average (i.e. streetsmart, compassionate about life and happy) Secondary goal: to make an anagram of my signature denoting how I feel about my gains

:funpost: but true! :eek: :eek:

If you don’t mind me asking, what was the total cost financially of the ordeal?

I actually was raised by an absentee uncle. I had savings put away for me which I pretty much exhausted. The total cost of thickening surgery with everything was close to 20k. And Rheinschild is still considered to be the top in the field. What a joke

I worked with a guy several years ago that had enlargement surgery. I don’t know who he went to, but I know it got fucked up. The even sadder part is that he sued and lost, as he had basically signed off that this was experimental and they were free of liability. Worse yet, the local paper somehow picked up on this as a “human interest” story and had a little blurb of a story about his trouble. I don’t know the total result, but the word was he ended up shorter, with significant scar tissue, which caused a lot of pain when he got an erection. He’d been a self described ladies man prior to this mess, but ended up pretty reclusive and depressed afterward.

I don’t know how anyone who does even the slightest research into these procedures would go under the knife in the hope of a little extra dick size. My guess is that stories like these are the norm, rather than the exception and the only reason there isn’t more information out there is the sheer embarrasment these guys have over ruining their cocks or severely diminishing their sex lives.

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