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Hypothetical Considerations of L-Deprenyl/Selegiline as a Potential PE Enhancer.

Hypothetical Considerations of L-Deprenyl/Selegiline as a Potential PE Enhancer.

Since reading recent threads reviewing scientific literature on physiology and compounds that would be of interest to members of Thunder’s Place, I thought I would include this internet site that reviews the “novel” “side effects” of L-Deprenyl/Selegiline. Please note that I AM NOT ADVOCATING THE USE OF THIS OR ANY OTHER DRUG. Thunder’s Place is a great place to share interesting/useful/novel information, the information on Selegiline can be found at:

The review is self explanatory with numerous references so there is not much that I need to add.


The alchemy of PE.

The Article on Selegiline

Here is the article on Selegiline. Please refer to the web site indicated in the previous post for the literature research sources.

“….. Selegiline, also known as l-deprenyl, is an irreversible and (relatively) selective MAO-B inhibitor. Meta-analysis of published clinical trials confirms it offers a cheap, safe and effective symptomatic treatment of early Parkinson’s disease. Selegiline may also be neuroprotective.

The enzyme monoamine oxidase has two main forms, type A and type B. They are coded by separate genes. MAO may be inhibited with agents that act reversibly or irreversibly; and selectively or unselectively. These categories are not absolute. MAO type-A preferentially deaminates serotonin and noradrenaline, and also non-selectively dopamine. Type B metabolises dopamine, phenylethylamine (the chocolate amphetamine) and various trace amines.

At dosages of below 10-15 mg daily, selegiline retains its selectivity for the type-B MAO iso-enzyme; but it is also a weak reversible inhibitor of the type-A MAO iso-enzyme. In contrast to unselective and irreversible MAO inhibitors such as tranylcypromine (Parnate) and phenelzine (Nardil), both of which strongly potentiate the catecholamine-releasing effect of tyramine, selegiline inhibits it. This ensures that low-dosage selegiline does not induce the hypertensive “cheese effect”. A regimen of 2 x 5mg daily of selegiline daily irreversibly inhibits over 90% of MAO-B in the basal ganglia, the location of over 80% of dopamine in the human brain. This level of MAO-B inhibition leads to a 40%-70% increase in synaptic dopamine.
Selegiline has immune-system-boosting and anti-neurodegenerative effects. Its use increases the level of tyrosine hydroxylase, growth hormone, cerebral nitric oxide and the production of key interleukins. Selegiline offers protection against DNA damage and oxidative stress by hydroxyl and peroxyl radical trapping; and against excitotoxic damage from glutamate. In addition, selegiline stimulates the release of superoxide dismutase (SOD). SOD is a key enzyme which helps to quench the production of damaging free-radicals.

Selegiline protects the mitochondria via its effects on mitochondrial membrane permeability: it directly interacts with the pore-forming structures. Mitochondria are the energy powerhouses of the eukaryotic cell where oxygen respiration occurs. If the mitochondrial theory of aging is correct, then the root cause of aging is damage to mitochondrial DNA by free radical leakage from adjacent respiratory proteins. Alas selegiline itself is not an elixir of eternal youth. But its current “off-label” use by life-extensionists prefigures the longevity-enhancing mitochondrial medicine of decades to come.

Taken consistently in low doses, selegiline tends to extend the life-expectancy of rats by some 20%; enhances drive, libido and endurance; and independently improves cognitive performance in Alzheimer’s patients and in some healthy normals. It is used successfully to treat canine cognitive dysfunction syndrome (CDS) in dogs.

Selegiline retards the metabolism not just of dopamine but also of phenylethylamine, a trace amine also found in chocolate and released when we’re in love.

Selegiline protects the brain’s dopamine cells from oxidative stress. The brain has only about 30-40 thousand dopaminergic neurons in all. We tend to lose perhaps 13% a decade in adult life. An eventual 70%-80% loss leads to the dopamine-deficiency disorder Parkinson’s disease, frequently foreshadowed by depression.

Administered at low doses, selegiline is neuroprotective against possible damage to the serotonergic fine axon terminals caused by overconsumption of the popular drug MDMA (Ecstasy). Several competing theories exist that purport to explain MDMA-induced neurotoxicity. One theory blames the deamination by MAO-B of excessive dopamine taken up by the membrane-bound transporter into the depleted serotonin terminals. This abnormal uptake follows MDMA-induced reversal of the serotonin reuptake pump. In the absence of MAO-B inhibition, deamination by MAO-B of excess dopamine taken up into the serotonergic axon terminals is liable to generate a glut of toxic free radicals. These highly reactive compounds cause membrane lipid peroxidation and consequent fine terminal degeneration. Selegiline prevents such serotonergic damage, in theory at any rate.
On the other hand, co-administering unselective selegiline dosages or unselective irreversible MAOIs like tranylcypromine (Parnate) or phenelzine (Nardil) with MDMA is potentially lethal.

Taken at MAO-B-selective dosages, selegiline is typically less effective as a mood-brightener than other dopaminergics such as amineptine (Survector). Taken at unselective dosages of 20mg a day or more, selegiline is typically an effective, well-tolerated antidepressant. Selegiline at higher dosages may also be useful for “atypical” depressive symptoms of overeating, oversleeping, and hypersensitivity to rejection. An unselective dosage regimen calls for an MAOI diet.

Selegiline can be delivered via a transdermal patch. If the FDA permits, the patch will be marketed by Somerset Pharmaceuticals.

Untike selegiline, the novel irreversible selective MAO-B-inhibitor rasagiline (Agilect) is not metabolised to methamphetamine or amphetamine. These trace amines are unlikely to contribute to selegiline’s neuroprotective action. Barring unexpected delays, rasagiline is expected to gain a product license in late 2004. Long-term clinical trials of their comparative efficacy and safety are needed.

Either way, by the standards of posterity we are all little better than glorified glue-sniffers in the light of the chemicals we put into our bodies. The impending Post-Darwinian Transition to an era of paradise-engineering has dreadfully crude origins. But by today’s modest standards, at least, selegiline is a potentially life-enriching agent….”


The Alchemy of PE.

I have Deprenyl right here. I got it a while back purely out of interest for the MAO effects, and some other literature I’d read about it’s sexual benefits, and aging brain benefits.

I can’t say I noticed much of anything after taking it, but I never took it that regularly. I think it’s a very subtle drug. Maybe I didn’t give it time. I always had it categorised in the same place as drugs like Bromocriptine (not that they have coman ground, but in the sense that they have multiple uses).

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