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Can I still be in the big dick club?

Originally Posted by CubanB
I think alot of this thread revolves around everyone’s definition of the word big. And since everyone’s definition is different, it’s a pretty circular arguement ie. it’s not going to be solved.


Exactly. Everyone has his own idea of what is big so this is ultimately a rather stupid argument. I posted a percentile scale that I think makes sense here: A Size Scale and A Size Scale (Part 2). My cutoff for big is the 70th percentile and huge is the 90th percentile. Where to place the cutoffs is a matter of arbitrary taste. These levels work for me but others might like different cutoffs (i.e. 98th or 99th percentile for huge).

Originally Posted by CubanB
To Magnum, I hope I didn’t offend you. You are one of the big gainers and I’ve learned alot over the months here from your posts in searches or older topics that get bumped. I look up to the big gainers of this forum and hope to be in the same position some day soon.


I hope that when you gain this much you’ll carry yourself with the sensitivity and humility that MagnumXXL01 seems to lack. One person’s success is not another person’s failure.

Originally Posted by CubanB
I’ve been meaning to make a topic about homosexuals here at Thunders but am almost scared to. It seems like they are in the closet here as much as the guys with the small units who read but don’t post. From time to time homophobic comments pop up, I mostly ignore them but I could understand if people who have come out in real life feel scared to “come out” on this forum. I am not gay but have some gay friends and to be honest they are just like anyone else. The way I see it, some guys like big butts, or huge boobs and I don’t. I like a more toned body. But shit happens. We can’t all like the same thing right? It’s annoying if it’s all they talk about, but it’s also annoying if you are a basketball fan and it’s all you talk about (I know I’m guilty of this). It’s naive to think that gay men don’t want to enlarge their penis like straight men do. Occasionally when bored I do google searches of the same types of things I search for here. Girth, stretches, size complaints (to guess a decent goal size) and they lead me to other forums where there are more gay members (not gay forums either) and it’s alot more open. I don’t know but it seems like it’s almost taboo to talk about it here. I know it’s a macho place here, but I don’t think it’s a big deal. Infact they could probably give some decent feedback on sizes since not alot of women post here.


I always find it funny when guys end posts with “I’m not gay” or something to that effect. It’s as if their masculinity is threatened by the very concept.

Originally Posted by CubanB
I’ve been meaning to make a topic about homosexuals here at Thunders but am almost scared to. It seems like they are in the closet here as much as the guys with the small units who read but don’t post. From time to time homophobic comments pop up, I mostly ignore them but I could understand if people who have come out in real life feel scared to “come out” on this forum. I am not gay but have some gay friends and to be honest they are just like anyone else. The way I see it, some guys like big butts, or huge boobs and I don’t. I like a more toned body. But shit happens. We can’t all like the same thing right? It’s annoying if it’s all they talk about, but it’s also annoying if you are a basketball fan and it’s all you talk about (I know I’m guilty of this). It’s naive to think that gay men don’t want to enlarge their penis like straight men do. Occasionally when bored I do google searches of the same types of things I search for here. Girth, stretches, size complaints (to guess a decent goal size) and they lead me to other forums where there are more gay members (not gay forums either) and it’s alot more open. I don’t know but it seems like it’s almost taboo to talk about it here. I know it’s a macho place here, but I don’t think it’s a big deal. Infact they could probably give some decent feedback on sizes since not alot of women post here.

Stick around for awhile and you’ll find this to be a pretty diverse and tolerant place. When the macho stuff gets out of hand it gets swatted down, as do homophobic or otherwise offensive comments directed at other members.

Mr. Happy - EXCELLENT STUFF. Thank you…

This thread and the questions about "What counts as big dick" remind me of that fun site http://www.thevisualiser.net/

You can create an "image" of your penis by entering your length and girth stats, then you can compare it to images of the various size study averages (Lifestyles, Kinsey, Durex, etc) as well as several brand name Porn Stars. Another nice thing about the visualizer is that it calculates volume.

James1984 - if you visit that site you are in for a revelation about your "average sized" penis.

Anyway it is a fun way to waste some time.


Last edited by sta-kool : 12-24-2008 at .

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
Yep. Easily.

You can bottom out on many women with that length.

My situation is kind of strange. As much that my fiancee’ doesn’t seem to be concerned with penis size at all, I would venture to say that she is fairly deep, because I haven’t bottomed out with her, yet. If I had, I’d have probably known it.

Originally Posted by sta-kool
Mr. Happy - EXCELLENT STUFF. Thank you…

This thread and the questions about "What counts as big dick" remind me of that fun site http://www.thevisualiser.net/

You can create an "image" of your penis by entering your length and girth stats, then you can compare it to images of the various size study averages (Lifestyles, Kinsey, Durex, etc) as well as several brand name Porn Stars. Another nice thing about the visualizer is that it calculates volume.

James1984 - if you visit that site you are in for a revelation about your "average sized" penis.

Anyway it is a fun way to waste some time.

I went to this website and tried it. I was considerably bigger than most according to most surveys, but definately didn’t enjoy seeing my size compared to that of the famous porn stars. Though, those porn comparisons reminded me that I’ve heard that some of the porn starts dimensions are most likely exaggerated. So, I didn’t know what to think of the comparisons.

Originally Posted by andgrowing
I’m actually at 7 3/4” BPEL. The only reason I don’t use BPEL is because I’m one of those who is of the mind set that if you can’t put it inside the woman, then it doesn’t count. Just my opinion, though.

Depending on postion, you can give her more than NBPEL. I would think that maybe 1/2 of the fat pad can/will be compressed and allow for that extra amount of penis to penitrate!
And I would have to agree with most that put you in the big size club.

Remember there is micro, tiny, small, average, big, large, huge, and monster. (Every man fits in to one of these catagories.) And being 1”+ over in length, and 1/2”+ over in girth puts you in the big catagory. When you hit 7”+ NBPEL and 5 3/4”+ mid shaft girth, you will be large. As always most of my opinions are just that, “My opinions”


2007-01-27 5.3" BPEL 4.8" EG, Less than 3" Flaccid, and sometimes less than 2"

As of 12-07-2008 7.75" BPEL 7.1" NBPEL 5.7"MSEG 6"+ BSEG. Ultimate goal 8+ inches NBPEL, 8.5" BPEL 6.3" EG (2" diameter just sounds so cool!)

Flaccid 5+ inches on a good day. 4 1/2+ pretty much anytime. My gains have slowed to a snails pace, but I will not quit!!!!!!!

Yes Mr. Happy, I think I’m friggin hilarious, thanks for asking.

Originally Posted by MagnumXXL01
Yes Mr. Happy, I think I’m friggin hilarious, thanks for asking.


The correct response would have been to just apologize instead of continuing to be a smart ass. It’s rather sad when adults need to be taught basic courtesy.

:down:

Originally Posted by andgrowing
I went to this website and tried it. I was considerably bigger than most according to most surveys, but definately didn’t enjoy seeing my size compared to that of the famous porn stars. Though, those porn comparisons reminded me that I’ve heard that some of the porn starts dimensions are most likely exaggerated. So, I didn’t know what to think of the comparisons.

These are kind of interesting discussions regarding that issue:

The Size Myth In The Porn Industry

Is Everything Really What it Seems? An ongoing study by DLD

An outside site linked in that first thread:

Is my dick smaller than a porn star's?
rame.net: faq: part 5:what goes on backstage

Controversial subject I guess, the threads are interesting reads if you have some spare time.

Originally Posted by MagnumXXL01
Yes Mr. Happy, I think I’m friggin hilarious, thanks for asking.


Fair enough.

:leftie:

Originally Posted by Invisible
The correct response would have been to just apologize instead of continuing to be a smart ass. It’s rather sad when adults need to be taught basic courtesy.


At last.

It has finally happened.

I finally disagree with Invisible. Perhaps not on substance, but certainly on style.

Here’s what I mean:

As a veteran smart-ass, myself, I have a deep appreciation for the subversive impulse. I also sympathize with those that take unpopular positions. There is also the danger of being overly narrow on what constitutes a "correct" response. People disagree. Given this topic, your point: Everyone has his own idea of what is big is particularly germane.

On another point - that of basic courtesy, in my view Mr. MagnumXXL01 has been fairly insensitive in how he’s stated his opinion and how he’s expressed his dissent. As a moderator I have felt some of this has been borderline. If that border of mutual respect (one of the primary tenets of this forum), is crossed…well…it will be addressed. Swiftly.

It’s one thing to express a dissenting opinion; fair enough. It’s another thing to feel the need to state it firmly, particularly if one appears to be in the minority (and perhaps feeling a little ganged-up on); fair enough again. There’s also the conceit of telling someone a difficult truth they don’t perhaps want to face - one could feel that such things need to be stated firmly so as to strip away any delusions; fair enough - with a caveat. This caveat, for me, is where MagnumXXL01’s position has the most trouble: such a position can only proceed with the notion of having a better sense of what is real. If one can support that with reasonable data, then the argument can be given respect.

In MagnumXXL01’s case I think he’s fairly well failed to present much of an argument to consider. When he’s attempted to use facts he’s either gotten them wrong or construed them so narrowly that his argument has trouble holding water.

Thus, his is a minority position - and probably for good reason.

Originally Posted by CubanB
I think alot of this thread revolves around everyone’s definition of the word big. And since everyone’s definition is different, it’s a pretty circular arguement ie. it’s not going to be solved.


There’s truth in that CubanB.

If I’m fair, though, I think what is really being disagreed on is the idea of what ‘average’ is. On that point MagnumXXL01 seems to be on the side of those that inflate median and/or average size, despite a wealth of evidence to the contrary.

It’s true the various surveys have their flaws, but when they are all viewed together the macro view does seem to support the idea that the ‘average’ is overall smaller than we have been led to believe in the common culture of Western myth. Para-Goomba updates this thread Penis Size: The True Average fairly regularly. Mostly the average has been exaggerated so often and so thoroughly in Western culture that we have a distorted idea of average, which in turn colors our ideas of what ‘big’ is.

And porn doesn’t help.

So, with that, let’s all agree to put this discussion in proper perspective. We’re just talking dick-size. It’s not like we’re talking about world hunger. :leftie:

Anyway…

Originally Posted by sta-kool
You can certainly put more of your penis into a woman than your NBPEL. Remember that your fat pad can be compressed. "Balls Deep" is kind of "near BPEL" if you think about it.


This is true to a certain extent. The ‘extent’ being: the heavier the fat-pad the less true it is. I have less than .25", when I grind the full length can be felt. No problem. If your fat-pad is 1.5" that’s a different story, no?

Originally Posted by andgrowing
My situation is kind of strange. As much that my fiancee’ doesn’t seem to be concerned with penis size at all, I would venture to say that she is fairly deep, because I haven’t bottomed out with her, yet. If I had, I’d have probably known it.

She may well be aroused enough to ‘tent’ in such a way that you don’t touch bottom. Some women can (and good for you, by the way :leftie: ). Just as there is variance with regard to our sizes, so too women have such variance.

Also, just so you know, ‘bottoming out’ is not necessarily universally desirable. For many women it’s a real deal-breaker. It can result in "Ow!" and everything stopping.

As long as you have a good sex-life, that’s the most important thing. A common issue with PE is: oftentimes men get so narrowly focused that they forget what’s truly important. Don’t let that happen to you. Count your blessings.

Lastly:

I’m not gay.

(:


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

The point of contention regarding a “correct” response was never with respect to MagnumXXL01’s opinion. If he wants to continue to believe what he believes, then it makes no difference to me. What I find disagreeable is when one member uses his own opinion to insensitively belittle another member. The tone of his original post (coming from a guy who is 8” x 6.5”) is almost like “Sorry, you're too small to be eligible for membership in my club. Try again next year.” To compound matters, continuing to behave in a flippant manner while refusing to recognize the possibility of offense is, quite frankly, the behavior of a jerk. Moreover, even if it’s “necessary” to tell someone a difficult truth, it’s never necessary to do so in a crass and condescending way. The key to being a successful smart ass is having enough social intelligence to save the sarcasm for those situations that call for it.

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
Lastly:

I’m not gay.

(:


:rolling:

Your subversive wit lives on.


Last edited by Mr. Happy : 12-29-2008 at . Reason: removed the quote from my post immediately above

Originally Posted by Invisible
Your subversive wit lives on.


No, really!

I’m not!


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
You could happily say that now, and you would be right.

Your length and girth are both in upper portions of the 90th percentile - pretty much by any standard of the reasonable survey data that’s out there. You’re not merely "above average" by anyone’s measure but your own - you’re quite big. Huge even. There are only a handful of porn stars that have your size or greater, for example.

One of these days you’ll realize this.

If I may be so bold, your self-perception is way off any sort of reasonable, objective assessment. You are a little like someone with anorexia nervosa, in the narrow sense that how you interpret what you see and does not match what others can see. It may not cause dysphoria in you (depression and sadness), but still…

7.8" X 6" is a very big dick. On the big side of big, in fact.

lol It is in some ways similar to an illness, it probably is what some one with anorexia does, as in visualize what they would like to look like and there not happy until they get there, I do it in relation to my penis.

One thing I think makes me not class it as big is I’m quite big in size, 6foot 2, very broad and have big hands (palms of my hands are 4’ across), 7.75’ wrists, so half of my dick disappears when holding it and it don’t look really thick when next to my wrists.

Luckily woman’s hands/wrists are a lot smaller.

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
I think I understand what you mean, but I don’t think it makes sense - if that makes any sense.

I think there is enough data out there for any reasonable person to look at and make judgments about what is more or less objectively true. Our "feelings" don’t enter in to what is physically tangible to the outside world. In fact, when the duality of our "feeling" versus what is objectively true are at odds that is the basis for neurosis.

There are degrees of course, and to be clear I am not trying to be disparaging in any way, but when people are within a normal range and feel small, or in a large or even very large category (like yourself) and feel as though they are merely "above average," despite a wealth of evidence to the contrary, it says something.

Perhaps what it says is that some men are so competitive that it colors their judgment in ways that are predisposed toward dissatisfaction. The up side to this is that this quality internally pushes us to improve - whether we need to or not. By extension, one could argue that this quality is likely part of the basis for civilization as we know it.

On the other hand we can also afford to relax a little too. :leftie:

I do agree but at the same time I know people will always have more or be better at something than your self (unless your exceptional), to be honest I don’t want the biggest, I will be 100% satisfied with 8.8 NBP and 6.3’ in girth, I could then happily say to a "size queen" I know I’m not small so I don’t care if you have had 10’ by 8’, I’m more than happy with what I have, where as at the moment, comments like that would get to me, hopefully I can reach my goal.

I was using the above as an example, I know that size would be very rare or closer to nonexistent, I also know women are bad with measurements.

Thanks for the comments :) .

Originally Posted by sta-kool
This thread and the questions about "What counts as big dick" remind me of that fun site http://www.thevisualiser.net/

You can create an "image" of your penis by entering your length and girth stats, then you can compare it to images of the various size study averages (Lifestyles, Kinsey, Durex, etc) as well as several brand name Porn Stars. Another nice thing about the visualizer is that it calculates volume.

James1984 - if you visit that site you are in for a revelation about your "average sized" penis.

Anyway it is a fun way to waste some time.

Thanks for the link :) .

I just wanted to point out, for Mr. T.

While I’m in this like you, to get to an even bigger size, there are some women out there - who WANT a smaller unit size.

I’m not sure if they date a smaller unit size, and cheat on him once in a while with the larger units or what. But some women are said to “hate” men with big units. Maybe it is some sort of penis envy between the sexes.

Originally Posted by djrobins
I just wanted to point out, for Mr. T.

While I’m in this like you, to get to an even bigger size, there are some women out there - who WANT a smaller unit size.

I’m not sure if they date a smaller unit size, and cheat on him once in a while with the larger units or what. But some women are said to “hate” men with big units. Maybe it is some sort of penis envy between the sexes.

The women who “probably and ‘supposedly” hate big units are the women who may never have experienced a truly bigger penis, or they may be married to a man who is less endowed then many, or the rare few just don’t want to be penetrated at all by a big unit. But how big are we talking here? All or most women besides a dwarf would prefer 7 inches over a 5 incher. And all women want to be stretched out with a girthy member from what I’ve been told.

I had a crazy friend who is now in prison for rape and assault with a really thick dick, but not so long one say that “I may not be able to poke the bottom, but I sure as hell can scrape those sides.”


Current stats: [7.5 BPEL * 4.9 EG]

GOAL: [8 NBPEL * 6 EG]

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