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Why wait for advanced Workouts

Why wait for advanced Workouts

Ok so here is something that I don’t quite understand. I know it’s a lot but read the whole thing.

Everywhere I read members, and moderators and everyone else pretty much always say, “You should not change your routine, if performing the Newbie Routine, if your still making gains” and to “start more advanced routines when you no longer gain for the Basic Newbie Routine”.

This is where I need opinions. To me, the whole reason for the Newbie routine is to condition your penis. And for most people after a few months start to notice quick gains, and are well conditioned.

And for the people who don’t know what I’m talking about as the Newbie Routine, It’s:

5min warm up
5-10min manual stretch
10min jelq
5min warm down..

And gradually increasing time of sets in 6 weeks.

This work out honestly doesn’t directly focus on “Enlarging” your unit I think. I think all it does is Stretch your ligs, and it simply reveals your hidden penis. Your pretty much “pulling” out your hidden portion of your penis. Which is why it’s the quickest gains. It’s quick because you didn’t have to “enlarger” the Unit. You merely “Pull” it out some. Which is why the Newbie gains stop after a certain amount of time. (You can’t pull the whole thing out Ha ha)

Now that you have the same idea I have. Why wait to “Enlarger” your Unit if It’s already conditioned? Lets say your performing your Newbie Routine for 3 months now. (Your safe to say that your penis is very well conditioned) You have seen very little gains, but seem to be still gaining. Or maybe you haven’t gained at all, but in both cases, you both have seen an outstanding increase in EQ. Why not start more advance routines now to “enlarger” your penis? Your conditioning aka Newbie Routine has trained your for this day.

Even if yours still gaining from the simple Newbie Routine, that’s revealing your hidden Penis, not necessarily “enlarging it. So why not “Enlarge” it AND “Reveal” it at the same time?

Everybody wants to see gains as quick as possible without hurting themselves. Most of us know that it takes time. But it seems that all of us are starving ourselves of a quicker way to gain. And to me if your conditioned but still “revealing” your hidden penis, then why not start “Enlarging” it at the same time. I don’t see the hurt in it. I see it as killing two birds with one stone. Why wait until you stop “Revealing” when you can “Reveal” and “enlarge” at the same time.

I do want to say that jelqing does enlarge your penis some. It builds pressure with in your penis. So technically I can see the jelq “enlarger” your penis. But most of you can agree with me that Jelqing isn’t the most popular way in increasing your girth. It’s popular, merely because it’s your building block, but it’s not necessarily the key to enormous girth gains.

This is why there’s more advanced workouts, like:
Hanging - for length gains
Pumping - for girth gains
Ect.

So why wait for no gains, when you can gain twice as fast?

Thanks guys for reading, and I hope I’m right, Ha ha.


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

:dance: Need a workout log? I've got one Here. :-pulse:

/forum/faq.php?faq=tp_fg#faq_tp_fg_general (your vs you’re).

Newbie Routine is actual enlarging. Most of the length gains come from ligament stretching rather than tunica stretching because that’s typically where you make your first length gains. I don’t really know what this “revealing theory” of yours is. Stretching is just like hanging, you are just doing it for less time. If your penis is growing, you are enlarging.

Build up to the advanced routines after you are conditioned. If you don’t, there is a fairly good chance that you will overwork your unit and get poor EQ for a few days or worse. The newbie routine is safe to start out at, many advanced exercises are not. Trust me it gets a lot harder to gain after PEing for awhile. Unless you are desperately impatient, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

Originally Posted by RandomGiant
Http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/…q_tp_fg_general (your vs you’re).


Sorry :(

Originally Posted by RandomGiant
I don’t really know what this “revealing theory” of yours is.

Actually it’s not my theory. I read a tread while back talking about the whole principle of how the Newbie Routine works. I’ve tried looking for it quite a few times, but can’t seem to find it, or I would have linked it. But he stated the much of the Newbie gains are from your hidden penis. From what he described it made plenty of sense. I will try finding the link so I can post here. But From what I understand, it’s not so much enlarging, it’s more of revealing.

Originally Posted by RandomGiant
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

Who said anything about fixing it? I’m talking about improving. Why wait to fix it when you can improve it before it needs to be fixed?


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

:dance: Need a workout log? I've got one Here. :-pulse:

Yeah, if you find the thread, link it. The purpose of the newbie routine is to safely start PEing and make some good newbie gains.

I’ve read a few threads about pulling out the “inner penis” as well. The vast majority of the times I’ve heard people refer to this, is when they are talking about gains from hanging. I don’t think I’ve ever heard this about the newbie routine.

Originally Posted by 2Big4u
Who said anything about fixing it? I’m talking about improving. Why wait to fix it when you can improve it before it needs to be fixed?


Sure you can change things around or add to your routine if you think it will help. It’s just not an improvement to start with some of the advanced exercises. After some conditioning, sure you can dabble in some if you think you’re up to it. Watch your EQ and other PI’s and you’ll learn what’s best for you from experience.

I believe that the line between max gain and over traning is very thin, while in the newby routine you will also learn to get as close to that line without crossing it.

I’m in my second month, and every time i try something advanced, it seems like im crossing to the over traning zone.

About lig and tunica, i think that with manual streaches you can address both.

Originally Posted by RandomGiant
Sure you can change things around or add to your routine if you think it will help. It’s just not an improvement to start with some of the advanced exercises. After some conditioning, sure you can dabble in some if you think you’re up to it. Watch your EQ and other PI’s and you’ll learn what’s best for you from experience.

Yeah I totally agree with you. I would never consider Advanced Routines before being conditioned. That’s why I suggested a few months of the Newbie Routine needs to be performed before attempting. My whole idea of combining Advanced work is after being conditioned.

I’m just stating that when I first heard someone say “don’t advance till your Newbie gains stopped”. That I thought it was unnecessary to consider advancing. But the more I thought about it the more it made sense to me. If this hidden penis theory is correct. Then why not perform both newbie techniques with advanced techniques, before hitting the wall. After being conditioned that is. This way your giving all you can give, while still staying safe.


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

:dance: Need a workout log? I've got one Here. :-pulse:

The sooner you resort to using intense exercises, the sooner you will over condition your penis and gains will potentially stop. Requiring a decon break sooner. That’s is why it’s best to only use as much as is required to gain. Gaining with only what is required might let you gain for 12 months before they stop. Gaining as quick as possible with intense exercises straight away might only let you gain for 6 months before they stop. (These numbers are made up but you get the idea).

Your thoughts are fundamentally wrong in my opinion. The words revealing, and enlarging are the same to me. Your penis either gets bigger or it doesn’t. Everything I have gained so far has been stretching and jelqing. No pumping, no hanging. I don’t plan to ever pump or hang (could change my mind down the line). Why, because when I first joined the forum and read the stories of the big gainers, I saw that everything that you can do with devices can be done with the hands. Only with the hands you have more control (in my opinion). I don’t have the time to go into more detail. Basically you need to experiment what works best for you, and it’s good to think outside the box, however you need to be aware that doing intense exercises before they are needed, risk both injury (or bad EQ) and slowed or stopped gains in a shorter period of time. If you already gaining a steady amount per month with a current routine, there is no reason to increase the intensity.

Originally Posted by E man
I believe that the line between max gain and over traning is very thin, while in the newby routine you will also learn to get as close to that line without crossing it.

I’m in my second month, and every time I try something advanced, it seems like I’m crossing to the over traning zone.

About lig and tunica, I think that with manual streaches you can address both.

Your Bold words could of been fixed with some spell check action. :) Looking out for a fella.

I’d give another month before advancing. You wouldn’t see my self completely adding a new routine. I would imagine that I would take some newbie routine out and replace it with some advanced work. After 3 months or so of Newbie routine, you should be at the

5-10min warm up
10-15min stretch
15-30min jelq
5-10min warm down

Period.

I would see myself taking some time away from certain routines and adding advanced. It would have to be a whole new routine. Something new. This way your not crossing the line of over training.


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

:dance: Need a workout log? I've got one Here. :-pulse:

Originally Posted by CubanB
However you need to be aware that doing intense exercises before they are needed,

That’s the thing, why wait until it’s needed? Why wait if you’re able to start now? I’m merely talking about if this hidden theory is correct. I know your opinion is that the theory is not correct. But in a case that it is, would the idea of combining the two make sense?

In 2 months I plan to try this with a new routine, I’ll post the routine and summit results. I want to know if this is just a random spark in my head or if this could be true.


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

:dance: Need a workout log? I've got one Here. :-pulse:

Originally Posted by 2Big4u
That’s the thing, why wait until it’s needed?


If you do the advanced routines and you hit a plateau, what then? Do even more advanced routines? Increase the intensity? Increase the duration? The advanced routines are there to get you out of the shit when it happens.

All people are saying is don’t exhaust your options or you’ll end up doing a deconditioning break much sooner then what most people experience.


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