The correct concept on Jelqs

At first I had the impression that jelqs are meant to be done as hard as can stand with a purpose of tearing the tissue to help gain size. I just read the other day that the purpose of jelqs is to ONLY do them minimum effort to force blood throughout the penis in hopes of getting a better erection from irregular ammounts of blood that your penis never had before.

Is this a tissue gaining exercise or is this only for stronger erections?

You’ll find a lot of conflicting info about fully erect jelqs.

I have made fairly good gains from less than fully erect jelqs, which is basically all I have ever done. I don’t know if my gain is from tissue growth or not.

You will also find many posts saying that fully erect jelqs are dangerous!!

Jelqing is a tissue stretching exercise. If done too hard it causes tissue damage that can lead to shrinkage and poor erections. If done too lightly you probably won’t get the desired result. Jelqing should be performed with moderate force so you feel your are moving and pumping blood with each stroke. At the end of a session, your cock should be longer and fuller and damage free.

While “tearing tissue” isn’t exactly an agreed upon concept, jelqs which cause maximal expansion are the most effective. If that is what you mean by “as hard as [one] can stand”, that is what you want to be doing. This does not mean that you should be jelqing fully erect. Most vets agree that jelqing with a plump, but pliable and bendable erection is the most effective at attaining maximal expansion. Besides having a higher risk of injury, I don’t feel like erect jelqs are nearly as effective.

Minimal effort jelqs would probably benefit your flaccid hang and general erection quality, but is unlikely to do anything for erect growth.

80% is suppose to be the desired erection level for jelq right?

When I do jelqs, I get a pain underneath right before the head. I’m not doing them that hard at all! That’s what brought up this topic. I want a better erection with .5” in girth and 1” in length. The erection however is the most important on the list. Next is length, then girth. Right now I am at 7x5.75. A while ago I jelqed for a month and got to 7.5x6. The way I used to jelq, it never hurt and I often did it really hard. The pain that I’m getting now is not nearly as hard as I used to jelq. This time I worked up to it over 1.5 weeks. Each day did different numbers, 25, 35, 40, 50 and so on.. I am now at 100.

This is something that I haven’t figured out yet myself and would like an answer to as well.

There are lots of posts similar to this but none that seem to give a clear cut answer. The example video/pictures on the jelq look like he is squeezing the hell out of that thing!

Some say lighter is better but I’m thinking it just depends on the person. I’m sure gains have been made using both methods.

I would say no more than 50-60%, max. Anything above that I’d call erect jelqing, which is not for newbies (or length. )

I agree. Both the pressure and erection level in the videos are quite high in my opinion (many may disagree with me on this though.) In my opinion, for length gains, lower erection jelqs angled straight down are optimal. However, as you condition your unit and gain experience, you can experiment with different pressures and erection levels to see what works for you. The main thing is to pay attention to your unit to learn what’s right for you. Start off with light pressure and low erection, then as you develop your routine experiment with different levels and degrees.

If you experiment with it, you will eventually be able to find the right balance of erection level, squeeze pressure and tension.

My erection level is as full as it can be without standing up at all. If it is any softer, I can’t get maximal expansion no matter how hard I squeeze due to lack of sufficient blood volume. If it is any harder I can’t squeeze hard enough to cause greater expansion above the point I am applying pressure.

I squeeze about as much as I can when I start my stroke at the base. In fact, I start with a really hard squeeze and then reduce the pressure a little as I move up the shaft because there is plenty of blood to get that max expansion.

I try to apply high tension throughout the stoke, as well, particularly at the end, where I pause and stretch every few strokes. This is completely useless and pointless if you are fully erect. You should feel some give.

Squeeze force and tension must be balanced to control the speed/duration of your stroke. It should be a slow motion, taking at least 3 seconds. I don’t really think there is a detriment to going much, much slower, but it becomes manual clamping once you slow to a stop. I do think that jelqing is superior to clamping because of this wave of compression and expansion, but the repetition of applying and releasing pressure also seems more effective, in addition to allowing for fresh blood flow, which is preferable.

It isn’t nearly as easy to master as it would sound, but once you find that sweet spot, you’ll start to recognize it.

Newbies should probably do jelqs only between 0-80% erections, where 0-40% erection jelqs are considered more effective for length, and 50-80% erection jelqs are considered more effective for girth. Anyway, if you fell pain, change your jelqs. Jelqing shouldn’t be painful.

Also, it is considered one of the basics of manual PE, so you should definately do it and learn the technique, especially if you’re a newbie.

This time around, I have noticed a major erection increase in only a week of jelqs. My entire life has been about 90-95% erection level. On occasion I would get the 100%ers. Since the first few days of jelqs, It has been 100% not stop and I often get them at odd times now like at the mall or Hooters(places that erections never existed). I guess I will focus on the tension level now for a few weeks to focus on size gains.

How many do you guys do? I was thinking 100, 3-5 times a week. Depending on my alone shower schedual.

I do 100 reps 3 or 4 times a day, 5 days a week. I built up to it starting with 40 or so 3 times a day.

Hey Slipstream,

I have been experimenting with an “all day” routine as well. I started with 4 sets a day of that start with a good stretch in each direction and then 80-100 dry jelq’s, then a nice shake as a warm down.

Now I am doing 4 sets a day or so that start with a good stretch in each direction, then 30-40 dry jelq’s, then one set of O-bends (20 second holds, 3 spots each going up, down, left, and right).

So far I have not been using a hot warm up for any of my shorter routines, but seem to be making good progress.

Do you use a warm up for your sets? How long have you been doing an “all day” routine? Have you noticed any significant gains? We should brain storm this a bit.

Cheers,
Whiskey

Whiskey,

My original routine was basically 100 dry jelqs before, between and after 30 minute sets in a wench/bungee stretcher (kind of like hanging) 3-6 times a day. Sometimes I rested between exercises, sometimes not. I used this extended routine over four reasonably consistent months the first time around which added up to about 180 hours under load. In total, I gained 5/8” of length and just over 1/4” EG.

I’m just getting back into my routine after a couple of years off. In that time, I lost pretty much all the girth, but kept all of the length.

This time I’ve been using a self-made static vacuum extender instead of a wench. My sets in the extender are between 1 and 3 hours since the vacuum attachment is much less traumatic than the cable clamp. Because of the longer sets and that I am still not fully conditioned, I’m only getting in 3-4 sets of 100 jelqs. With this routine, I regained all of my lost girth and added another 3/16” of length in 3 weeks.

After the fourth week I had to eventually stop jelqing and back way off the extender due to several painful, infected ingrown hairs. I’ve already lost half of my gains, but I think I’ll be fully recovered in another week.

In regards to warm-up, my jelqing technique is pretty high tension, so I don’t do any additional stretching. I try to keep my manual sessions short since I do them throughout the day in a restroom stall at work. :dissap:

I have considered adding a warm-up stretch before the first jelq set of the day. What do you think about the impact of that?

I use heat in the form of a rice sock before and during my extender sets. I’m thinking about building an LED IR lamp that I can wear against the shaft while in the extender, because the heat of the rice sock dissipates long before my set is over. I would definitely recommend trying heat, if you can do that.

Barring any more injury or major disruptions in my life, I plan on sticking to this all-day routine until I hit a plateau.

I think it would be a great idea to brainstorm on improvements we can make to our routines.

Grief_ mentioned that Bennett8 has done “mini-sessions”, which I’ve been meaning to look up. It sounds like it may have some relevance.

Like I said, I do all of this at work, so I have some serious stealth constraints. So far, I’ve been lucky to figure out something that works, anyway. What is your environment like?

Are you still hanging?

Cheers,
slip

Whiskey, are you still in India?