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Myths and false ideas in PE

Myths and false ideas in PE

I thought about initiating a thread to expose ideas traditionally accepted on this Forum though they may be incorrect. If you know about such, please bring them into attention. A proof based controversy never hurts and brings clarification.
I start it with two ideas I heard many times on this Forum without anybody rejecting them:

1. Erection brings fresh blood to the penis (or increases blood flow to the penis)
Actually it’s quite the opposite! Erection is based on partial restriction of venous outflow. Inflow will be restricted shortly after at the same value as the outflow, below the level preceding erection. Instead of fresh blood, there will be stalling in circulation.

2. By loosening the ligaments we can pull out the inner penis.
I think it’s one of the biggest myths of PE. It is told on the newbies stretching instructions page also.
Knowing that 1/3 of the penis is inside the body, it’s tempting to imagine pulling it out. Unfortunately it’s just a naïve idea.

Before I get stoned, let’s see what the truth is. Stretching the ligaments allows the erect shaft to get into a lower position with an altered erection angle. The normal upward curve at the base of the outer penis is being “unwrapped” in a straight line. It does an apparent lengthening of the penis with the amount of transforming a circular segment into a straight segment. It yields a measurable length gain on the expense of an unnatural lower position of the erection. This is the fact and that’s all. The internal penis it’s not involved.

The internal penis is not a telescopic pipe waiting to get rid of ligaments bounds to be allowed outside! It is not floating inside the body, but well anchored there. I am not aware of physiological reasons for the root of the penis to exist, but from a practical point of view I know it cannot be pulled out for the simple reason it is extensively and solidly attached to the perineum and pubic rami. If this internal linking was not such an obstacle, lengthening surgery would have been targeting it for sure.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Originally Posted by ThunderSS

Always nice when some guy shows up out of nowhere with “facts”. ;)

The expected reaction. The only surprise and disappointment is it comes from you… :(

Please try to think beyond the irrelevance of “the guy out of nowhere” and criticize the idea, not the poster! :)


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

So are you saying guys that have gained in erect length is just the curve being straightened out or am I reading it wrong? So guys that have gained 2 inch’s and more, that would be some curve! What about flaccid length?

Originally Posted by cervixhunter
I am not aware of physiological reasons for the root of the penis to exist, but from a practical point of view I know it cannot be pulled out for the simple reason it is extensively and solidly attached to the perineum and pubic rami.

I am no physiologist and am pretty new to PE but… isn’t the reason for hanging, manual stretches ect.. to stretch the ligs therefore lengthening them allowing the “inner penis” to hang out of the body? Since aren’t the ligs keeping the penis anchored to your body?


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If the natural angle between the inner penis and the outer penis(that creates the bend) is straightened out, then you really are bring some of the inner penis outside. Your not “pulling” it out, but instead you are loosening the ligaments so that more of the penis is outside. I think you may be write about it.

Originally Posted by cervixhunter
I thought about initiating a thread to expose ideas traditionally accepted on this Forum though they may be incorrect. If you know about such, please bring them into attention. A proof based controversy never hurts and brings clarification.
I start it with two ideas I heard many times on this Forum without anybody rejecting them:

1. Erection brings fresh blood to the penis (or increases blood flow to the penis)
Actually it’s quite the opposite! Erection is based on partial restriction of venous outflow. Inflow will be restricted shortly after at the same value as the outflow, below the level preceding erection. Instead of fresh blood, there will be stalling in circulation.

2. By loosening the ligaments we can pull out the inner penis.
I think it’s one of the biggest myths of PE. It is told on the newbies stretching instructions page also.
Knowing that 1/3 of the penis is inside the body, it’s tempting to imagine pulling it out. Unfortunately it’s just a naïve idea.

Before I get stoned, let’s see what the truth is. Stretching the ligaments allows the erect shaft to get into a lower position with an altered erection angle. The normal upward curve at the base of the outer penis is being “unwrapped” in a straight line. It does an apparent lengthening of the penis with the amount of transforming a circular segment into a straight segment. It yields a measurable length gain on the expense of an unnatural lower position of the erection. This is the fact and that’s all. The internal penis it’s not involved.

The internal penis is not a telescopic pipe waiting to get rid of ligaments bounds to be allowed outside! It is not floating inside the body, but well anchored there. I am not aware of physiological reasons for the root of the penis to exist, but from a practical point of view I know it cannot be pulled out for the simple reason it is extensively and solidly attached to the perineum and pubic rami. If this internal linking was not such an obstacle, lengthening surgery would have been targeting it for sure.

But lengthening surgery DOES target precisely that. The surgical method of increasing the ligament length does the same thing as hanging, just faster. It’s the same ligament, and you’re still just making it longer. The newest surgical technique involves severing the ligament completely and reattaching it at a lower point on the inner penis.


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Originally Posted by kimc
So are you saying guys that have gained in erect length is just the curve being straightened out or am I reading it wrong? So guys that have gained 2 inch’s and more, that would be some curve! What about flaccid length?

No, I’m saying they gained mostly by growing their external penis and partially by straightening the curve.

Maybe we mean different things by “inner penis”. I mean the part that is not visible. There is the segment between the point where the scrotum is attached and going towards the anus which is not “inner”. That is targeted by ligament stretch.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Originally Posted by Fantom

But lengthening surgery DOES target precisely that. The surgical method of increasing the ligament length does the same thing as hanging, just faster. It’s the same ligament, and you’re still just making it longer. The newest surgical technique involves severing the ligament completely and reattaching it at a lower point on the inner penis.

The same here - we mean different things by inner penis. My definition fer inner penis is the medical term of penis root - the part inside the body, on the inner part of the perineum. If that was targeted by surgical lengthening, the surgeon would make a circular incision around the penis at the level where it disappears inside the body cutting only skin, “extract” the penis, then sealing the wound. Unfortunately that is not possible because it should be cut the perineum also, as it is attached with the penis at that point. That’s why I say we can’t access the inner penis by stretching. We can stretch only the external part. We can’t stretch beyond the perineum because the traction force on the penis drops to zero at the level of the perineum. It’s like trying to pull a rubber tube cemented in a wall. All we can do is elongating the portion outside the wall.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Originally Posted by cervixhunter
The same here - we mean different things by inner penis. My definition fer inner penis is the medical term of penis root - the part inside the body, on the inner part of the perineum. If that was targeted by surgical lengthening, the surgeon would make a circular incision around the penis at the level where it disappears inside the body cutting only skin, “extract” the penis, then sealing the wound. Unfortunately that is not possible because it should be cut the perineum also, as it is attached with the penis at that point. That’s why I say we can’t access the inner penis by stretching. We can stretch only the external part. We can’t stretch beyond the perineum because the traction force on the penis drops to zero at the level of the perineum. It’s like trying to pull a rubber tube cemented in a wall. All we can do is elongating the portion outside the wall.

Good deduction! Basically you are saying that once the outer penises is maximally stretched, any further force applied will be loaded at the perineum, and not the inner penis at all.

Cervix Hunter:

I agree wholeheartedly with your debunking of the second alleged myth—lig gains are an illusion—mostly. It’s good to see you stating the anatomical obvious. There is a long history of confusion regarding penile anatomy, which has lead many to believe that PE is all about expressing the inner penis.

There might be something gained by stretching the ligaments. For example, doing so might make it easier to stretch the tunica. But you’re right; there’s no coiled-up inner penis waiting to be straightened out.

Your attempt to debunk the first alleged myth is a little less persuasive. Sure, erection is caused by blocking blood flow from the emissary veins. But blood pressure and volume within the penis increase dramatically.

I’m not sure how much blood flow is typical in a flaccid penis. Are you sure that net blood flow is greater when flaccid than when erect? Are you sure that growth of a penis isn’t in response to pressure rather than flow?


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Surely, The fact that the penis enlarges when an erection takes place, means a higher than normal pressure exists. As can be seen by the fact that the penis incrreases in size. A higher pressure means that blood is forced into the ‘cavities’. Which has the effect of bringing fresh blood into the penis.

The ‘fresh blood’ is a simpler way of saying more pressure is brought into the penis. And which means more nutrients are forced into the tissue.


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