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Myths and false ideas in PE

The best way to get fresh blood to penile tissue regularly would surely be to have frequent short-lived erections.

I think the penis is a lot like a “telescopic pipe”, so to speak. That is it certainly has telescoping properties in the way it draws in on itself. If you don’t believe this just stand in front of a mirror right after getting out of bed in a cold room. Your flaccid length will shorten, but not from the ligs pulling the whole shaft into the body, if you watch closely you will see the shaft actually draws inside itself, like a telescope. Sure, this drawing in, or retraction, is pulled by ligaments, but the tunica is not pulled into the body at its full shaft length, but is drawn into itself like a telescope. This is why I think that manual stretches where you pull the tip out of this recoil, gives a better stretch than grabbing the shaft.


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Originally Posted by Big Girtha
This is why I think that manual stretches where you pull the tip out of this recoil, gives a better stretch than grabbing the shaft.

BG,

First post your direction from me. Hello.

I am having a bear of a time gaining any length. I am doing SD manual stretches, using an overhand grip just below the glans, and pulling.

What kind of manual stretching are you referring to here? I am curious.


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Originally Posted by cervixhunter
No, I’m saying they gained mostly by growing their external penis and partially by straightening the curve.

Maybe we mean different things by “inner penis”. I mean the part that is not visible. There is the segment between the point where the scrotum is attached and going towards the anus which is not “inner”. That is targeted by ligament stretch.

Ok are you saying the inner penis doesn’t get pulled out but the segment your talking about does when you focus on lig stretching, BTC and straight down? Now when you say growing the external penis do you mean the growth that people would get through hanging to hit the tunica, up, out, fulcrum. Or the external penis is by both lig and tunica hanging/stretching. I apologize for the way I’m putting things, I’m tired and need to go to bed(2.45am), I hope it made sense :)

Cervix hunter,
I thought an altered erection angle was a bad thing. Isn’t it better to have an erection that really points up, rather than an erection that goes straight out, or worse an erection that sags down at the floor.

I am sure that there is a reason for a portion of the penis to be internal. It has to be anchored in some way, and all those ‘potential inches’ are probably needed to provide strength and power during sexual activities.

Your point #1 is incorrect.


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Originally Posted by ThunderSS
I am not disagreeing with anything you said, just with the way you are saying it. That’s the part that disappoints me. People get tired of truth saying gurus real fast.

Thanks for the clarification!
I don’t consider myself more of an expert than any other newbie. If the way I was saying suggested guruism, that’s entirely my fault and I’ll do my best to avoid it in the future. ;)

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
I’m not sure how much blood flow is typical in a flaccid penis. Are you sure that net blood flow is greater when flaccid than when erect? Are you sure that growth of a penis isn’t in response to pressure rather than flow?

The minimum blood speed in the healthy penian arteries is 10 cm/sec (4”/sec) and can be up to twice that value. An erection kicks in fast, filling a CC volume of around 10 - 25 cubic inches in a couple of seconds. These suggest a rather fast circulation in flaccid state. Erection brings severe limitation to blood flow.
The positive effects of the erection (pressure) on growth is a different thing and I think no one is questioning that.

Big Girtha, I agree with your remarks, just limiting the telescopic behaviour to the external part of the penis. I think the perineum unloads the pulling force from the internal penis.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
Ok are you saying the inner penis doesn’t get pulled out but the segment your talking about does when you focus on lig stretching, BTC and straight down? Now when you say growing the external penis do you mean the growth that people would get through hanging to hit the tunica, up, out, fulcrum. Or the external penis is by both lig and tunica hanging/stretching. I apologize for the way I’m putting things, I’m tired and need to go to bed(2.45am), I hope it made sense :)

You got right what I wanted to say. In my opinion ligament stretchers get what they can from this by straightening the base curve, then continue to gain by tunica stretching even if they are not focusing on it (or aware of it).

aegi, I’m 100% on your opinion regarding erection angle, but it is a matter of personal preference. A lot of people don’t see an issue with that, or consider it a good trade-off for some more BPEL. I respect their choice.
Seems reasonable your opinion on the internal penis.

kooljohn, can you be more precise, please?


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Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

You really don’t find any wildly accepted PE idea as questionable?! Come on people, the last guy I know about being banned for questioning official ideas was Galileo. :)
As no one seems to posses yet the key for fully understand how PE works, putting out of the way false ideas may add some steps towards that understanding.

Here it goes:

3. One loses penis size with ageing
Every time somebody reports newbie gains and it happens to be over 35 years of age, someone rushes in to explain it by regaining the lost size. I know people reporting about size loss experience, so I’m not saying it cannot happen. What bothers me is the way it is considered as a dogma, a universal truth beyond the need of validation.

I would say it may be true for some and false for others. I never experienced size loss (I’m 53) and I have a pretty average body which doesn’t make me special.
I was and I am very active sexually. Does this make me special? Sure not. A lot of people continue to remain sexually very active beyond their prime times.
I take good care of my body and my overall health. Does it make me unique? Sure not. A growing segment of the ageing population is aware of the benefits of a fit and healthy body and makes efforts to stay that way.
Is there anything else to make me alone in the universe with not losing size? Since I noticed at age 35 that my physical peak is going to end, I sticked to a self imposed antiageing program that seemed to work. Now, that makes me less common, but many other people do similar things. It is not directly related to sex, just about preserving health and physical abilities.

With the above considerations, it is reasonable to suggest that people with good health, sexually very active and with a good physical condition won’t lose penis size despite their higher age. I don’t see any reason for a heavily used body part to decline.
The bottom line for PE is that losing penis size is not a fatality coming with age. It is avoidable.
I would go further to say that the culprits for losing size are erectile dysfunctions, or low frequency of sexual activities. Older people are the best candidates, but that could happen at any age…


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Originally Posted by kooljohn
Your point #1 is incorrect.


I agree.
Look up the effects of Edging.

Hint: It brings fresh GH&T filled blood to your soldier ;)


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Originally Posted by cervixhunter
I would go further to say that the culprits for losing size are erectile dysfunctions, or low frequency of sexual activities. Older people are the best candidates, but that could happen at any age…


I would go even further to say Diabetes, high blood pressure, cardio-pulminary disease(s), stress, anxiety, depression, poor diet, poor exercise, medication, alcohol, drugs, genetics and the list goes on and on and on.

There are too many factors involved with aging and losing penis size to take into account to be able to make an accurate statement. It just seems, as a rule of thumb that most people lose some size as they age.

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As no one seems to posses yet the key for fully understand how PE works, putting out of the way false ideas may add some steps towards that understanding.


Before there can be a FALSE idea, a RIGHT idea is required in order to differentiate between right and wrong. There presently is no right idea, or I should say a scientific conclusion as to how penile cell growth actually occurs. Only speculation and theories.

But really who cares? :shrug: PE works, and that’s all that matters.

Originally Posted by cervixhunter
You really don’t find any wildly accepted PE idea as questionable?!


I personally find it all questionable but evidence provided by forum members suggests there might be some, even if only a hint, of credibility to some of these ideas and I personally don’t see value in trying to prove or disprove something I financially, physically and intellectually can’t do.

I’ll leave speculation and scientific research to the professionals.

For now I’ll keep pulling my dick.


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Originally Posted by C.phantasy
I agree.
Look up the effects of Edging.

Are you guys listening at all? I’ll say it again for you, we AGREE on the benefits of powerful and long erections, just don’t tell anyone that it is because of fresh blood, or more blood supply to the penis.
Some people just can’t understand that restricted outflow restricts inflow…

Tossed Salad, I agree PE works and that matters. On the other hand, we all would like it to work more efficiently, with less trial and error, right to the spot. That needs more knowledge and if we are waiting only for professionals to do the scientific research, that won’t happen too soon…


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Originally Posted by cervixhunter
Tossed Salad, I agree PE works and that matters. On the other hand, we all would like it to work more efficiently, with less trial and error, right to the spot. That needs more knowledge and if we are waiting only for professionals to do the scientific research, that won’t happen too soon…


How do you propose to get this knowledge?

By adding more speculation? :-k


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Originally Posted by cervixhunter
Are you guys listening at all? I’ll say it again for you, we AGREE on the benefits of powerful and long erections, just don’t tell anyone that it is because of fresh blood, or more blood supply to the penis.
Some people just can’t understand that restricted outflow restricts inflow…

Tossed Salad, I agree PE works and that matters. On the other hand, we all would like it to work more efficiently, with less trial and error, right to the spot. That needs more knowledge and if we are waiting only for professionals to do the scientific research, that won’t happen too soon…

I’d completely agree with you there. What your doing is just what PE needs. We need to think more about the all the possible mechanisms that are occuring, and raise questions as to how we can manipulate them to our advantage.

Originally Posted by cervixhunter

Tossed Salad, I agree PE works and that matters. On the other hand, we all would like it to work more efficiently, with less trial and error, right to the spot.


Wooooah there now….

Much of what is to do with our body is trial and error and will remain so for a very long time.

Let’s take PE as an example, how many people find 3 days on 2 off an effective routine and how many find 5 on 2 off effective?

The number’s are irrelevant, but what is important is that people differ and what works for one doesn’t work for another. I won’t ejaculate more than twice a week and I edge regularly,this helps maximize my gains,others will try this and find it doesn’t work for them at all. It’s not a failure as such, it’s something you need to find out for yourself in deciphering exactly what body type you are and what works for you.

The same applies to weight training.

Trial and error is necessary in some cases and with something as ‘unknown’ as PE it will take many moons before this is not the case and in a lot of areas will always remain so until you’ve experienced all facets and determined what works for you and what doesn’t.


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