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Help with chemical PE for a newbie

DHT and manual routine with a lot of wet jelq. Both told me that their EQ improved but no gains with two cycles of DHT.


09/02/12: BPEL 16,5 - MSEG 13,5

04/02/15: BPEL 19,5 - MSEG 15.5

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I have stopped using DHT

I don’t know if he is still doing chem PE this days, but I suppose if he wants to make money from his supposed knowledge on this field he would be interested in showing the biggest possible penis. Let me say that I don’t think he is the size he claims and that his girth is clearly inflated by fluid build up, so no real ‘gains’. I think he is about 7.5” NBP, girth hard to say show me him when he has no fluid build up.

Have you ever heard of Aristocane? Do a search on this forum, and read the whole thread.

I think it’s clear that Ronielle made impressive gains. Maybe he has stopped DHT because he doesn’t like the side effects and his dick is already very big. I see the Aristocane thread. But it is long and before I read it I’d be curious what you wanted me to look for.

That it is easy to fool people when PE is involved, basically. I’m not saying Ronielle is a defrauder or such, he is actually pretty honest about what works and what not. But people fools themselves when PE is involved. I’ve seen many, many people claiming that they were gaining multiple inches in girth thanks to this or this other new technique/supplemnt/diet/whatever, but in the end they were imagining gains and/or had were just blessed for gains. I don’t know how much Ronielle has gained but we have several threads on here with people who tried pretty much the same things he advocates; since those people had previous experience with NPE, they were able to understand that the rate of gains wasn’t going better with chemicals and dropped them; they also were able to see the difference between fluid build up and real gains.

Some of the things he says don’t make much sense either; growing more smooth muscle is about no point; injecting something in your tunica is near impossible, it is covered by several layers of other tissue, it is very very thin, scarcely irrorated by blood, you won’t be able even to understand if you are injecting in it or in other parts of your penis. Having 3 hours erections thanks to caverject - how that could be better than doing clamping or pumping? Even the strongest erection can’t stress the tunica so intensely as natural PE. Actually, caverject injections can cause scar tissue growth, due to the needle, and make your penis smaller, not bigger. What could make sense would be taking advantage of PDE inhibitors to speed up the ricover, but this will not change exponentially the growth.

So what do you do when manual PE does not work for you?

You should understand the why. I’m not a guy who believes to mystic things, visualization positive thinkin and what not, but there is a clear proof in several studies that wound healing is heavy affected by the mood. So if one is depressed or skeptic, the chances that PE will work are tiny. Than could be inconsistency, using too much force from the start, improper technique and other factors.

Originally Posted by marinera

You should understand the why. I’m not a guy who believes to mystic things, visualization positive thinkin and what not, but there is a clear proof in several studies that wound healing is heavy affected by the mood. So if one is depressed or skeptic, the chances that PE will work are tiny. Than could be inconsistency, using too much force from the start, improper technique and other factors.

Sounds like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo

“Archie Cochrane suggested in 1972[7] “It is important to distinguish the very respectable, conscious use of placebos. The effect of placebos has been shown by randomized controlled trials to be very large. Their use in the correct place is to be encouraged […]”

Could I rephrase: “The placebo effect is not eradicable everytime a conscious human being is involved.”. In the past ‘placebo’ meant ‘deception’, basically. This is too simplicistic, IMO. A coach or a sergeant who encourage self - esteem and decision in his team or troup, is a placebo?

Sort of, but it’s not a deception, the coach is actually “sorting you out” mentally via communication, whereas placebo is like religion, you think a deity or higher power is sorting you out while it’s really your own body doing the job.

Nocebo is the opposite, it’s like a documentary I saw on TV where some guy was feeling down so he took a whole bottle of pills that he got when he opted to a medical experiment. He started feeling really I’ll and sick and he got to a hospital where they figured out what he had ingested. Turned out that he was part of the control group and those pills were nothing but sugar, as soon as the patient heard that his condition started to stabilize, he was almost dying before that.


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Agreed. But both the coach and the placebo are partially relying on the same psycho-physiologic mechanisms, neurochemicals hormonals etc..

A bad couch often has his team more prone to injuries, so he is kinda a nocebo. :)

And anyway, why there isn’t any pills that enlarges the penis then?

Originally Posted by marinera
Agreed. But both the coach and the placebo are partially relying on the same psycho-physiologic mechanisms, neurochemicals hormonals etc..

A bad couch often has his team more prone to injuries, so he is kinda a nocebo. :)

And anyway, why there isn’t any pills that enlarges the penis then?


Because even through placebo the body isn’t able to increase the penis size without PE after natural growth?

Right.

Marinera, here you are the before pics of Ronielle. Certainly not a little tool:

http://chemicalpenis.blogspot.com.e…l/Before%20Pics

Thanks. Not a little tool. Is there any before/after pics with a ruler?

As side note, the old rubbish infos about ‘African tribes’ there.

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