Accurate Standard Of Measurement
I have been an avid reader of these forums since I joined and it seems to me that when claims of GAINS from NATURAL PE are fully scrutinized, 99% of these claims cannot be verified.
I think that this is basically down to two issues - An INACCURATE STANDARD OF MEASUREMENT and a LACK OF PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE.
What I am interested in is finding a MORE ACCURATE STANDARD OF MEASUREMENT so that we can all AVOID WASTING TIME.
Measuring FLACCID GAINS is next to impossible and/or pointless so the following will concentrate on ERECT GAINS.
I suspect that SOME who claim GAINS are simply LYING.
So why would people lie about NATURAL PE GAINS?
1) Direct or indirect financial gain through the commissioned sale of wraps, hangers, pumps etc.
2) Freaks who like to fuck with our heads.
I suspect that MOST who claim GAINS could actually be CONFUSED.
The only way to accurately conclude that an individual has GAINED anything is by a BEFORE and AFTER measurement of the penis at MAXIMUM AROUSAL.
My EG varies from 4.75” to 5.5”, depending on many factors, but the greatest factor affecting my EG fluctuations is how AROUSED I am. If I pump I can increase it to around 5.75” but, like most who pump, my dick fills up with lymph fluids and ends up sore or numb anyway.
To me, it seems quite logical that the vast majority of the GAINS recorded by the members of this site could simply be accounted for by fluctuations in AROUSAL.
The problem with MAXIMUM AROUSAL is that it is very unlikely to occur with a ruler or tape measure in one or both of your hands.
A MORE ACCURATE STANDARD OF MEASUREMENT could be measuring at SIMULATED MAXIMUM AROUSAL - A measurement recorded whilst wearing a COCK RING or CLAMP. Not truly accurate of course - the longer you leave those things on, the more your dick fills up with lymph fluids. Perhaps SIMULATED MAXIMUM AROUSAL could be defined as measuring whilst wearing one of these devices for a MAXIMUM of 5 MINUTES.
I don’t pretend to have the complete answers to the measuring problem, but we must find a MORE ACCURATE STANDARD OF MEASUREMENT because the CURRENT STANDARD is VIRTUALLY USELSS for assessing GAINS.
Many times on this site I have read stories from the supposed HARD-GAINER who gets nowhere and is greeted with the lame offering from the supposed BIG-GAINER that EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. Maybe the EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT factor really is a major part of all this, but unless a MORE ACCURATE STANDARD OF MEASUREMENT is introduced, we will never know how much this factor plays a part.
Furthermore, any claims of GAINS without PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE should simply be dismissed.
At the very least, the MODERATORS of this site should not be allowed to make unsubstantiated claims of GAINS. The title of MODERATOR implies someone who is trustworthy. If you examine the claims made in PEFOREAL’s moniker you will note that two of the three main methods of his NATURAL PE routine are not even NATURAL at all. His situation is a clear example of a CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
PEFOREAL may be for real. He may be the nicest guy on earth but, without PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE, he has missed the boat.
Of course even PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE can be faked, but we have much more chance of spotting FAKE PHOTOGRAPHS than FAKE OR CONFUSED PARAGRAPHS.