8 x 6 Envy

Well said.

Was looking at the thread on the ultimate fast gainer routine and came across the history on the legenary bib.

Now not to run this point into the ground but this is his take after getting huge:

This weekend I took a 30-hour continuing education class. There were about 20 women and 15 men. I sat at the 2nd table from the back on one side, kind of in a corner. The first day I wore boxers with shorts. Thereafter I wore boxers and sweat pants. Almost all the women in the class stared at my crotch. I told all who asked that I am married. By the 2nd day, I had the 7 best-looking women in the class sitting around me. They ranged from 24 to 33 in age. I'm 43 and not bad looking, but nothing like that has ever happened to me before. I have never been that popular.

Here is the link for reference:

Bib’s history

He is basically confirming my point I was trying to make in this thread. Perhaps though 8 x 6 just isn’t enough to stand out in the crowd. Bib is 10.5" in length and 6.5" in girth. That is size that has to be in a very very very tiny percent of the population. You have to wonder how many of those 7 best-looking women would be all show and no go if it really came down to it.

You are suffering from “size inflation” I am afraid.

I think he means that that is how big you have to be to be spotted as a monster WHILE flaccid WHILE in full clothes. Tryingtobebig?

Great term! :chuckle:

bubba77,

Do you consider power being social credit + general dominance (not bossiness but leadership attitude)? If not, what do you consider power? I’m interested in your perspective as I never used the word “power” to describe a man’s feature.

Happy,

I want to make sure I was well understood. I wasn’t giving a PUA as a general example. Nor do I consider them ideal men. It does raise questions seeing totally average or bellow average looking guys making it happen, using or not using someone else’s personality (canned routines). I always enjoy reading your posts. I collect ideas and filter them… usually I end up with a lesson or an insight in my past. There are guys here that really have an enormous contribution to the quality of the chatting that takes place in this forum. This mentained quality is the reason that keeps me posting.

Common sense + good post = lesson.

Best wishes.

BTW, I haven’t made any gains. Do I worry? No. Will I find something that works for me eventually? Yes.

Hey bro, I don’t think power is anything specific. Some guy can walk into a room—be tall, strikingly good looking, etc—-and really get noticed by the opposite sex. Another man, maybe not so good looking, gets noticed by a really hot girl in the work place. Maybe that man is very successful, ambitious…and the woman totally wishes/admires she could do what he does. This generates attraction…power…on the man’s side.

Homeboy Happy: he posts, perhaps carelessly but likely calculated, wrestling with the exact phrasing until he gets it just right…so that the occasional female thunder’s member notices that we all appreciate his insightful posts. This female then says, my God, all these men appreciate Happy’s insightful posts. Happy is a better man than them and I’m creaming my pants for Happy.

Then she PM’s him and says “Oh Happy, let me suck your fat cack.” To which Happy says: “There are many who want to suck this fat cack. It is not possible for you.” To which she responds “oh Happy, please.” And then, finally, Happy relents “Fine, bitch. Fine.”

And that, my friend, is Happy power.

I’m not suffering from anything. I was quoting Bib a very respected gainer who has documented gains. So if you think he’s suffering from “size inflation” or anything else I would suggest you take your comments to him.

Yeah that is what i was basically saying. It was also to point out that at least according to Bib, women do notice when you are that kind of monster size. Before his post I only had my own impressions of how women in my small community treat one or two guys that are rumored to be huge. Personally I’ve never noticed anything above average at all (not that I’m looking) through clothes.

Some of this too, at least from my perspective has a lot to do with rumor and just the way women talk. I’m a small guy at 5’ 6”. About 18 years ago where I work I did have a hard time meeting women and for the first few years had like one date with one woman. Never went anywhere. Then because of personality and just generally working hard at it I managed to sleep with a hot little spinner that had a big mouth and was kind of known to get guys that were good looking and good in bed.

Within days I was talking to several other women at a level not like before. One I had been wanting for a while was talking to me and said “Angie had always said you probably had a little dick. We thought you did. But she told us the other day… ‘NO he doesn’t! He’s got a nice dick! She said you are a good fuck” Well I ended up doing her and several other women in the office. Never had another problem. This is when I was only 5.5” in length!!!So you see I’m not saying that you need a HUGE penis to attract women but if women think you are very small they will avoid you because of their own ego, what their friends will think, etc. Angie may have just been saying that to all her friends because she had finally done me and didn’t want her friends to think I was small. Most likely however they percieved I had a 3” dick and so I was above her expectations.

Sorry I could have phrased that better. Didn’t mean my response to sound so snotty. I was just pointing out that Bib a big gainer was saying that hot looking young women were sitting all around him just because of his big dick. No reason for me to believe Bib lying because I see that kind of frenzy around the guy I discussed earlier in this thread.

My suggestion that your are suffering from “size inflation” has nothing to do with Bib and his accomplishments.

Rather it is about your perceptions. If you truly believe what you said here:

then you do indeed have some distorted/inflated ideas about penis size.

An 8x6 is going to stand out in any crowd.

LIFESTYLE LENGTH DATA:

7.50” to 7.75” 0.9 %
7.75” to 8.00” 0.8 %
8.00” to 8.25” 0.3 %

LIFESTYLE GIRTH DATA:

5.50” to 5.75” 3.0 %
5.75” to 6.00” 3.9 %
6.00” to 6.25” 0.5 %

As I think Mr. Happy pointed out earlier or in a similar thread, a combination of the 2 stats is probably rarer. Invisible could probably run the numbers for us.

I am not trying to be “snotty” — just wanting you to have a more realistic view of what is out there. I worry when guys have these weird ideas about size. It isn’t healthy for the mind.

Anyway that was my point, hope it is clearer now.

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As to flaccids in sweat pants, we all know the difference between show-ers and growers. So theoretically a 6x5 shower could stand out more than a 9x6 grower if you think about it. You can’t really tell how big an erection will be from a flaccid.

sta-kool, I know what you mean. What I meant by Bib’s story was that I think there are guys that are 8 x 6 but they probably don’t get the kind of reaction that Bib is describing in his details. Women have a hard enough time judging a penis size as it is. I think they also drastically under estimate how much some guys can grow. My perception is that to ‘stand out in a crowd’, to actually have nearly every women in a class ‘staring at your crotch’ as bib describes, PERHAPS you may need more than a RELATIVE 8 x 6 penis. Bib, if he is to be believed, has a cock that is 2.5 inches larger in length than 8”. What percent does that put him in? We don’t even have data available to make a reasonable guess.

I think it is also being misinterpreted that I desire to have some kind of 10.5” monster cock. I wouldn’t even want that if I could have it. 8 x 6 has been my goal since I first posted. No desire for any bigger than that. I only pointed to bib’s post because so many people doubted me when I said that I personally knew only one guy in a town of 15,000 that was really known for having a big dick and that there were tons of women drawn to him like a magnet. Bib’s post was just a way for me to point out that exceptional size may in fact be a draw at least of curiosity if nothing else, getting noticed, or having women interested. Because bib is a respected gainer and has documented well I thought that it made sense to point out his experience in the classroom. How many other guys here honestly have had an experience where nearly every women is staring at their crotch or working to sit as close to them as possible just because of their penis size? This is just my basic rebuttal to ‘that can’t happen’. Yes it can.

You should change your job title to the dick size police of penile average length and girth statistics. You always get your man.

I don’t know man, I think what anyone says about how women react to a man after PE should be taken with a grain of salt.

I’ve read a few posts like this before, one guy stated after doing PE he “loves to go to the mall and watch women stare at his cock”.
Somehow I think that was all in his mind. Unless you’re wearing bike pants it’s pretty hard to determine someones size. What Bib said, I don’t think it had anything to do with his size but rather the confidence his size gave him.

When I was in high school most of the girls would sit up the front away from me, the next day they’re sitting all around me.. Because I sat up the front with them!

Often people will use a small lie to tell a big tale especially if it bolsters their sense of personal accomplishment.

You want every woman to stare at your crotch? Take your pants off and get your cock out.

Well I must say I do lean more toward Titelist way of thinking. I know that if I went into a clinical setting and was being ‘measured’ by someone I didn’t know and perhaps was a guy or was some ugly hag I’m not sure I would even be 5 x 4. My EQ would be dismal.

I’m getting right up at 6 x 5 now when I’m on Cialis and right after a PE work out. Without the Cialis and not doing PE if you measure me I would probably be 5.5” x 4.75”. If my EQ wasn’t all that great I would be more like 5.25 x 4.5. This is just the EQ variable and doesn’t even get into variations in measuring techniques.

Leaving girth out, I could imagine someone going into these studies could be 6.75” on their best days with top EQ but when it’s time to ‘measure up’ with an environment that I can’t imagine would be conductive to good wood, they maybe come in at the 6” mark. I guess I’m just a little skeptical of clinging to that data as like the holy grail of penis size. We have nothing else to go on so it’s useful; don’t get me wrong. I do think this is a huge bell curve and 90% of men fall in those middle 5.5” - 6.5” ranges.

Along these lines of thought I’ve considerd proposing a measurement idea where you measure everyday and then plot a moving average. Much like you would a stock price. The moving average would smooth out the variations in EQ and perhaps give a better read on what a person’s true overall size is. I”m not one that really worries too much about the psychological pressure of measuring everyday. Just measure, put the number in an excel sheet and move on. Over time measuring wouldn’t mean very much at all anyway.