4 inch wonder here. newbie questions

Describe the pumping? I thought that the tighter the grip used while jelquing meant more blood would be pushed to the glans?

Not an expert but I would say that the younger the best, because you have a lot of hormones flowing and that would make you gain faster, about stretches do it flaccid, and PE in the shower makes part of the stealth PE I understand your concerns about parents finding out about PE, as I’m 19 years, but I tell them that the heated sock is for my sore knee I don’t know if they bought it but avoided further questions.

If the pressure is too much the smooth muscle reacts with a contractions - it is a defensive mechanism against a too high degree of damage.

I see, interesting point. I’m curious to how much pressure I should be using then.

Enough to move the blood but not more.

Clinical trials?

Clinical trials not about the injuries caused by PE, but the lack of diligence in observing an even short and simple PE regimen : the younger the subjects, the higher the negligence. Under hand I have this study, which I posted few days ago:

"Vacuum Erectile Device

The VED is recently gaining popularity as a rehabilitative tool. In an early prospective study, patients were started on daily use of VED, biweekly injection of combined PGE, papaverine, and phentolamine (Trimix), and patient-directed use of PDE5-Is following unilateral nerve-sparing RP with or without sural grafting. Patients were evaluated preoperatively, 6 weeks postoperatively, and at 4 month intervals thereafter for up to 2 years for rehabilitation regimen compliance and penile length.

At 4 months, only the patients with good VED compliance had a 0.4-cm increase n penile length vs 0.3-cm decrease in length in patients with poor VED compliance relative to their 6 week measurement. No beneficial effect was found for patients using ICI regarding the recovery of penile length [45]. ………..

The compliance with the rehabilitation regimen was also studied in these patients. In total, 73.3%, 66.7%, and 47.1% of patients were using VED for rehabilitation as prescribed at 4-, 8-, and 12-month follow-ups, which was significantly higher than the compliance to ICI as mentioned previously. Interestingly, the compliance was better in patients older than 57 years than that in those who were younger. This factor highlights the need to counsel all patients about treatment compliance, but especially younger men who may be more likely to neglect therapy [
….."

http://rejoynme dical.com/artic … bilitation.html

Similar things are said on other clinical papers I read before, with some time I’m going to find them if required. The above seems to accords with what we see on this forum : I can’t remember a single guy older than 50yo reporting a major injury and most of injuries are due to bad technique and inconsistent regimen.

Well soon to be 50 and the story line I use for the “kids” mid-20’ to young teen is the heating pad is for a pulled groin muscle playing racquetball. Been using that bullshit story since joining TP’s. I keep straining the damn thing and heat helps. (:

Thanks marinera. It would be a good topic to document further I think.

When I have time I’ll see to find other related literature I have read and forgot in the meanwhile. Maybe doing a poll too could be not bad.

A poll might help.

Well we all know how crazy people can be when young (I read somewhere that brain age has an affect on risk taking) so it makes sense.

I was heavily into lifting and martial arts from being 11 years old - my penis stopped natural growth by the time I was 15, although some people’s do continue growing into their 20s. Certainly testosterone increasing activities are not going to ‘give you a big dick’. Genetics play a far larger part.

You have to also factor in the fact that us old fucks think we know it all phoenix. ;)

Has to do with stages of brain development. Frontal Lobes not fully working yet when you are in your teens.

Here you go:

http://www.psyc hologytoday.com … s-feel-immortal

Why do teenagers feel immortal?
Teenagers without frontal lobes!

Published on August 23, 2010 by Professor Gary L. Wenk, Ph. D. in Your Brain on Food

Thirty years of teaching college students about the effects of drugs upon their brains and I am still astonished at the continued attraction of illicit drugs. Year after year, the story never really changes. Their reasons for taking psychoactive drugs are varied but their rationalization has remained fairly consistent: they simply do not believe that anything truly bad will ever happen to them. They are young, their lives stretch out before them to the horizon and they feel immortal. I speculate that the consistency of this reasoning across decades is likely due to a developmental feature of the human brain.

I blame the feelings of immortality of teenagers on the fact that their frontal lobes are not fully working. The reason the frontal lobes are not fully engaged is because they have not yet completed the process of neuronal myelination. Think of myelination as the insulation on the electrical wires inside your house. Without myelination in the brain, electrical signals from neurons fail to reach their destination. The parts of our brains that myelinate last are also the parts that evolved most recently. These parts include our frontal lobes, which contribute most to our unique personalities and allow us to anticipate the consequences of our actions.

Essentially, your frontal lobes tell you that it’s a bad idea to drink alcohol and drive or to ignore the consequences of taking heroin. When your frontal lobes finally complete their process of myelination, they begin to work properly and you stop doing dangerous things. Most importantly, you stop feeling immortal. Apparently, women finish this myelination process by age 25 years and men finish by age 30. Thus a 20-year-old female, although her brain is still myelinating, is closer to maturity than her 20-year-old boyfriend, who still has another 10 years before he can really appreciate the wisdom of warnings such as those against drinking and driving or against taking any drug that comes his way.

Whenever I discuss this developmental process during class the young women all nod their heads knowingly; finally they have an explanation for the behavior of their boyfriends or certain members of our ATO fraternity.

The delay in our access to our frontal lobes, as well as any insight into our own mortality, also correlates with another phenomenon familiar to parents with college age children - car insurance rates.

Young women always get a break on insurance rates at a much younger age than men simply because their frontal lobes are wired up sooner. The condition of the female frontal lobes translates into a history of young women having fewer driving accidents than young men of a similar developmental age. I can imagine a future time when we’ll need to carry a recent MRI image of our frontal lobes in order to buy alcoholic beverages or vote. Young men might start carrying pictures of their fully myelinated frontal lobes to show worried parents when picking up their dates. Just think of the possibilities!