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Winstrol?

After researching and thinking about this for a while, I have decided not to try Winstrol. I would rather find something that weakens collagen cross-linking as well as lowers (as opposed to raising or maintaining) the rate of collagen synthesis if I am going to experiment with any type of supplement. If I can find anything that does just this that appears to be safe (after thorough research of course), I will definitely give it a try. If any of you guys happen to know of such a supplement, please be cool enough to give me some info about it.

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I don’t know if that is really the way to go. From what I have seen, weakened collagen isn’t able to handle increased stress and isn’t pliable. Someone (I guess you) needs to go one way and someone else the other. I’ll add to the collagen synthesis by adding GH antagonists like GABA and Alpha GPC to my routine. I will also up the blood flow to the penis.

While you can stop all vitamin C, MSM, Glucosimine and increase cortisol production. This can be done by metabolism stimulator’s and lowering the amount of blood flow in the penis. Ephedrine will do this effectively.

If anyone knows a safer way to do this, please chime in.

I think we need some clarification between lowering collagen synthesis and collagen crosslinking. Put another way: Can you clarify whether you are trying to change the quanity or the structure?

I’ve just come back off holiday and am extemely jet lagged, but I’ll get my head in gear again over the next few days on this.

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I am on winstrol RIGHT NOW, 50mg tabs, 350 mg-week. I know my joints are starting to ache. I am about to do alot of stretching while on it. I’m glad I read this tread, I didn’t even think of it. I cut back on stretching some because of weaker erections. I can live with them for a while, if winnie will help me gain. :bigwink:


1.25 inches down, 1.75 to go!!!!!! For 8" NBP

While PEing, the idea that new collagen will form as being cross-linked is a mystery to me. Perhaps I missed something but the added stress placed upon the tissues should direct placement of new tissues.

>>I don’t know if that is really the way to go. From what I have seen, weakened collagen isn’t able to handle increased stress and isn’t pliable. Someone (I guess you) needs to go one way and someone else the other. I’ll add to the collagen synthesis by adding GH antagonists like GABA and Alpha GPC to my routine. I will also up the blood flow to the penis.<<

You are correct, weakened collagen cannot handle the stress as well as healthy collagen. However, doesn’t that just mean microtears will occur with a lower load than in healthy collagen?

>>While you can stop all vitamin C, MSM, Glucosimine and increase cortisol production. This can be done by metabolism stimulator’s and lowering the amount of blood flow in the penis. Ephedrine will do this effectively.<<

I have already reduced my intake of all of the above. I have never really had a high glucosamine intake as I am not very fond of shellfish, but I have made it a point as of about 3 weeks to a month ago to omit vitamin C and MSM from my diet. Can I just think of really depressing shit to increase cortisol production? :p

>>I think we need some clarification between lowering collagen synthesis and collagen crosslinking. Put another way: Can you clarify whether you are trying to change the quanity or the structure?<<

Well, preferably both. It’s hard to say which truly should be done as the mechanism of growth through NPE is not certain. If you believe deformation occurs due to microtrauma within the tissues, it would be best to weaken the integrity of the tissue so that tears occur more easily and of course, if a greater number of cells is used to repair the damage than was there to begin with, the structure itself will be larger. Essentially, I want to try lowering collagen synthesis so that the tissue is easier to stretch/tear AND, through sustained traction, decrease crosslinking in collagen molecules that are used to replace dead/damaged collagen as well as weaken existing crosslinks. Sound logical?

By the way, sorry about taking so long to follow up on this. I took a spontaneous vacation. :)


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You are correct, weakened collagen cannot handle the stress as well as healthy collagen. However, doesn't that just mean microtears will occur with a lower load than in healthy collagen?

Your correct in your assumptions IMHO. Took me a minute to grasp the concept. Still thinking like growth can be directed and with traction, it probably can.

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I have already reduced my intake of all of the above. I have never really had a high glucosamine intake as I am not very fond of shellfish, but I have made it a point as of about 3 weeks to a month ago to omit vitamin C and MSM from my diet. Can I just think of really depressing shit to increase cortisol production?

Sure soon, I’m also trying something similar to what was listed. My GH experiment is over with. Cya@9!!!!!

I got it Penismith, check your email…..

HEY,

How are you guys just gonna invade my thread? :p

Just playing of course. That article was interesting Cya … I’ll send you a PM about what we discussed earlier whenever I get the chance.

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Winstrol V is a controlled class three substance…anabolic steriod. Possession even for personal use is illegal without a prescription and proof thereof in your posession. I had a couple friends while I was in the Marines in 29 Palms Ca….close to the border ….who took it to help them run faster for their PFTs (Physical Fitness Tests). How else could a guy 5’ 9” tall, 225lbs of muscle with 8% bodyfat run three miles in 19 minutes or less? LOL. Thats how. Winstrol V is also a water based steriod, has a very short half life…something like only a coule days. It has to be injected every other day to remain effective in the system. I’m sure there are better, and less illegal methods to aid in your PE guys.

8 year bump.. anyone try this lately? Any Winny users out there who can comment on gains?

I stopped PE years ago, went back to natural size after a couple of years. What used to be a very important subject to me now seems to hold no interest at all. I guess that the thread stalled meant that people didn’t get results from this particular avenue. My best gains were IR and gentle persuasion, cycled on and off every couple of weeks. That gave quick and pleasing gains, but it did tail off. to a new set point. I think it’s good for 1” for a newbie though if they give it a couple of months.

Yo utilize enantato de testosterona y la verdad que lo tube que dejar,porque tenia unas erecciones tremendas con solo tocarme y no te digo

Na para hacer los ejercicios de pe.tambien utilizaba andro penis y apenas me lo podia poner.pero con todo eso creo que crecio un centimetro mas o menos.pero no lo pude llevar bien 100/100 acabo por estos efectos.lo de winny es interesante si se supiera de alguien que lo alla probado

Y de resultado.yo creo que me arriesgaria.un saludo

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